Commandant Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 They fired him? Should have made him a national hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 The Battle of Ontario's rivalry has resumed...at Roots? http://www.senatorsextra.com/main/ottawa-roots-store-removes-leafs-merchandise-after-senators-fans-complain The result is the removal and/or reduction of Toronto merchandise from most Ottawa retailers and a Twitter/commenting war between the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhfarber Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 well that's interesting. According to Bob Mackenzie the Leafs have fired Brian Burke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 well that's interesting. According to Bob Mackenzie the Leafs have fired Brian Burke. WHA???? And even more explosively - hired Pierre Gauthier!! A man can dream, can't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Truculence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 It's a stumper. True, Burke has failed to deliver, but the timing of this move seems puzzling. If you were gonna fire him, shouldn't you have done it right after last season? Give the new guy time to make a few moves and settle in with the organization (rather like the Habs did)? Now the team will be in organizational disarray in the midst of a shortened season. Hell, given that Burke made a number of moves and that the Leafs did quite well for the first half of last season before collapsing - possibly a sign of a team that is on the verge of getting it together to move to the next level - it would have been far more sensible to let this abbreviated season play out before coming to a definitive assessment of the Burke Years. Maybe they'll surprise us with a brilliant hiring who will right the ship. But at face value this just seems like more confusion from an organization whose moves generally appear to have more to do with internal politics than hockey sense. Imagine the media frenzy if they hire Pierre McGuire though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Speculation is that this is either about the new owners, or Luongo... I would not be surprised if Burke lost it on the corporate masters who pushed him on something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Truculence. Post of the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Nonis looked like he was kicked in the nuts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Nonis looked like he was kicked in the nuts... Lots of people are saying that...without fully appreciating how difficult a position Nonis is in, having basically stolen his mentor's job. I'd be ecstatic for myself and deeply miserable for it being on Burke's back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsy Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Don't follow the Leafs closely. In many ways, being in Montreal, the Leafs are just another team that never wins. Especially if you watch RDS. But I must say, a meddling ownership group in Toronto puts a smile on my face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Gauthier had 1 bad year and the media frensy was on. How Brainiac lasted this long, shitty year after shitty year, seemed odd? Also, why he was ever considered a good GM i still dont see it? Canucks surely dont miss him. As a Hab fan i am sorry to see him leave, he seemed a perfect fit for arrogance central. Now they just have to hire Doug McLean, MIlbury or McGuire to ensure our favourite gong show continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Gauthier had 1 bad year and the media frensy was on. How Brainiac lasted this long, shitty year after shitty year, seemed odd? Also, why he was ever considered a good GM i still dont see it? Canucks surely dont miss him. As a Hab fan i am sorry to see him leave, he seemed a perfect fit for arrogance central. Now they just have to hire Doug McLean, MIlbury or McGuire to ensure our favourite gong show continues. Well, Nonis is their guy. He may prove to be no more than competent, but he will not be inept. Burke made his rep when he won the Cup in Anaheim after having overseen the Canucks' emergence as a powerhouse. Rather like Gainey, he seems to have ascended to the big chair in a big market after his prime years as GM were over. EDIT: one thing to add is that Burke showed great character in his staunch support for his (tragically) late son and his adamant rejection of hockey's prevalent homophobic culture. Whatever you say about him, he will always have my respect as a stand-up guy for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Well, Nonis is their guy. He may prove to be no more than competent, but he will not be inept. Burke made his rep when he won the Cup in Anaheim after having overseen the Canucks' emergence as a powerhouse. Rather like Gainey, he seems to have ascended to the big chair in a big market after his prime years as GM were over. EDIT: one thing to add is that Burke showed great character in his staunch support for his (tragically) late son and his adamant rejection of hockey's prevalent homophobic culture. Whatever you say about him, he will always have my respect as a stand-up guy for that. He won with a Duck team he inherited. Powerhouses normally win more than 1 round of playoffs, Naslund-Bertuzzi never saw a 3rd round! With Canucks Burke missed playoffs twice, lost 1st round 3 times, lost 2nd round once and Canucks missed playoffs again the year after he was punted; not quite a powerhouse record is it! Nonis may be an upgrade; but Pierre Gauthier would be also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 He won with a Duck team he inherited. Powerhouses normally win more than 1 round of playoffs, Naslund-Bertuzzi never saw a 3rd round! With Canucks Burke missed playoffs twice, lost 1st round 3 times, lost 2nd round once and Canucks missed playoffs again the year after he was punted; not quite a powerhouse record is it! Nonis may be an upgrade; but Pierre Gauthier would be also. Nonis reminds me of the gainey to Gauthier move... Too little change. I am guessing Nonis is gone in 18 months and they clean house like we did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 He won with a Duck team he inherited. Powerhouses normally win more than 1 round of playoffs, Naslund-Bertuzzi never saw a 3rd round! With Canucks Burke missed playoffs twice, lost 1st round 3 times, lost 2nd round once and Canucks missed playoffs again the year after he was punted; not quite a powerhouse record is it! Nonis may be an upgrade; but Pierre Gauthier would be also. One of the ironies of Burke's tenure is that his inability to address goaltending problems proved fatal in both Vancouver and TO. He reminds me of Bobby Clarke in that respect - for some reason, just chronically unable to find a netminder. I was trying to explain why Burke had a rep as a stud general manager, not saying he was some kind of genius in his heyday. He did, however, do a pretty good job of turning the Canucks organization around. His drafting of the Twins and his patient development of them showed real vision. And yeah, he inherited the Ducks - from Pierre Gauthier no less! - but nevertheless was the man at the helm when they won. He was no Sam Pollock, but I think his track record warranted respect. Not the fawning adulation he got in TO, certainly, but respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 One of the ironies of Burke's tenure is that his inability to address goaltending problems proved fatal in both Vancouver and TO. He reminds me of Bobby Clarke in that respect - for some reason, just chronically unable to find a netminder. I was trying to explain why Burke had a rep as a stud general manager, not saying he was some kind of genius in his heyday. He did, however, do a pretty good job of turning the Canucks organization around. His drafting of the Twins and his patient development of them showed real vision. And yeah, he inherited the Ducks - from Pierre Gauthier no less! - but nevertheless was the man at the helm when they won. He was no Sam Pollock, but I think his track record warranted respect. Not the fawning adulation he got in TO, certainly, but respect. Sure, not saying he is super bad, but still more pompasness than anything else and am just glad he is not running the Habs. Sorry, got little respect for his hockey savvy and his need to be rantin in front of a camera as much as the other 29 GMs combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Lots of people are saying that...without fully appreciating how difficult a position Nonis is in, having basically stolen his mentor's job. I'd be ecstatic for myself and deeply miserable for it being on Burke's back. This is the 2nd time he's stolen his mentor's job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 This is the 2nd time he's stolen his mentor's job. Or the second time he was handed the mop and told to clean the crap off the floor.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 After picking their roster yesterday, here is Burke's legacy. The Leafs have more "dead money" and "dead cap space" than the Habs, and that includes paying Gomez his full salary of 5.5 million this year and taking the 6.4 cap hit. http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/01/19/brian-burkes-legacy-leafs-paying-big-money-on-failed-acquisitions/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Toronto just signed Joffrey Lupul on a five year, $5.25M per extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I made this video after making the 1st one featuring the Leafers & Habs. So many of my FB friends & work friends wanted more. I got sort of a mini fanbase out of them. In having to use all 30 teams, some teams got the rotten end of the stick that don't deserve this. So, while you might not like some of the suggestions & you may feel offended by some of the choices, please just take it in jest. I posted in this thread due to the Habs & Leafers were the main inspiration for this video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Interesting that there's quiet talk about moving Kessel. That would pretty much put a nail in the coffin which compromised Burke's work, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Interesting that there's quiet talk about moving Kessel. That would pretty much put a nail in the coffin which compromised Burke's work, apparently. Trading one of the best wingers in the NHL would be so ridiculous I hope it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Moving Kessel makes no sense at all. What return could the leafers possibly hope for? Kessel is all ready a trade disaster with Seguin & Hamilton. What is the headline going to be when they move him? Double disaster? Leafers in spite of their new direction should live with Kessel & look elsewhere on the roster to improve their needs. Kessel is known for lack of intensity & his lack of determination to go into the dirty areas but the Blew & White have to live with it IMO. Kulimen, Grabovski or Captain Rockstar, why not look at them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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