Commandant Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 Galchenyuk with a goal tonight but Sarnia loses game 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Galchenyuk with a goal tonight but Sarnia loses game 1. Interesting that Gauthier (as well as Burke and other GMs) was at this Sania game checking out the 2 prospects. I wonder what it would take to get Columbus's/Oilers pick, if the Habs kept their first also? Next year's first, a 2nd, Kristo, Gallagher and Eller, or some crazy package like that? I cant remember what Mr. Giant Ego (Burke) traded to get Danial and Henrik at #2 and #3, whatever it was it was worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Am I the only one who actually wants our new GM to part ways with the first round pick if we are selecting in the top 2? I am not convinced of yakupov or Grigorenko and would rather see the GM add another asset instead of selecting these guys. It is an option for sure and if the right asset was offered, never say never. But i would bet a lot that Yakupov is all the scouts say he is and is the complete package, while Grigorenko does have the "Russian Questionmark" for sure, but he aslo could be a Malkin and not a Yashin/Radulov? Only time will tell. Which is why i would likely skip him for Galchenyuk or maybe Forsberg. Becasue when you look at reports, both Galchenyuk and Forsberg have "hard-Working" as a prime character trait, which is what separates many prospects who do make it from those who dont, and Grigorenko is not noted to be hard-working (or at least is not one of his best attributes, unlike the other 2). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 I think we'll continue to see high profile GMs at the Sarnia games. Everyone will want their own looks at both Yakupov and Galchenyuk after the injuries. Burke was also spotted at the Remparts (Grigorenko) game Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Interesting that Gauthier (as well as Burke and other GMs) was at this Sania game checking out the 2 prospects. I wonder what it would take to get Columbus's/Oilers pick, if the Habs kept their first also? Next year's first, a 2nd, Kristo, Gallagher and Eller, or some crazy package like that? I cant remember what Mr. Giant Ego (Burke) traded to get Danial and Henrik at #2 and #3, whatever it was it was worth it. I don't want to dump Gallagher just becuase of his size, I've got a really good feeling about this kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwihab Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) This is from left field, but does anyone think we could bundle our first round pick and some prospects and get Ovechkin from Washington? If the Caps don't make the playoffs they may consider blowing things up and a change of scenery could revive Ovechkin. Is this doable? And of so, would you do it? We've talked about trading for lecavilier for years but I would much rather have Ovechkin than Lecavilier (even when he was in his prime) (null) Edited March 25, 2012 by Kiwihab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 Galchenyuk 1 assist Yakupov 1 goal 1 assist As the Sting tie their first round series 1-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaboom Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 This is from left field, but does anyone think we could bundle our first round pick and some prospects and get Ovechkin from Washington? If the Caps don't make the playoffs they may consider blowing things up and a change of scenery could revive Ovechkin. Is this doable? And of so, would you do it? We've talked about trading for lecavilier for years but I would much rather have Ovechkin than Lecavilier (even when he was in his prime) (null) Depending on what they want maybe. He is awesome and even when he has an off year he still is. When the the guy is hot there is no one that brings what he can. GOALS GOALS AND MORE GOALS!!!! size, speed, he hits hard and never plays scared plus can do it all himself. Not saying he is the best player in the world but at times he can be. we have some great prospects coming and it would be tough to part with some of them. Tinordi,Bournival,Gallagher,Beaulieu,Kristo to name a few. If they wanted a 1st and two top player and or prospects for nash they will want the world for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForumGhost Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Neither club would or should do a deal like that. Ovie is not only their best player, but he is the face of their franchise. He single-handidly made hockey matter in Washington again, and you can bet he sells tickets and merchandise by the boatload. Trading him would set the franchise (not as an on-ice product but as a interest to the public) back years. On the other side, Montreal shouldn't do a trade like that. While Ovie is great, he falls into the category of being so great that on the trade market, he would command enough high end prospects and young, talented roster players that such a trade would completely gut a team of all it's depth. We have seen time and time again that a 1-line team will not go far in the the playoffs. Depth wins cups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 Ovie has been good the past two years but not at the same level of greatness as before. That as well as the timing of this story, scare the crap out of me. I'm not saying they are connected but it has to be a red flag. http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Report-Steroid-dealer-boasts-of-sales-to-Washin?urn=nhl,166076 That is from two years ago and Ovy hasnt been the same player since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 That is from two years ago and Ovy hasnt been the same player since. Ovechkin hasn't been the same player since because he changed his style. Steroids doesn't make you score more goals. He also misses Mike Green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForumGhost Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I agree. Ovechkin seems like he will be a Jerome Iginla. An power forward who will have a presence on the ice even when he's not producing at a high level. Will reach 40-50 a few times in his career but will probably never have a season with less than 30. Still an ideal franchise player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 Ovechkin hasn't been the same player since because he changed his style. Steroids doesn't make you score more goals. He also misses Mike Green. Steroids help your body recover from injury and take the grind of an 82 game season. They heal the wear and tear of the 82 game season and keep you stronger. If you notice Ovechkin now goes on hot and cold steaks. He didnt use to have as many cold streaks, or nearly as long. He was on almost every game when he was at his best. Also the style change and being less reckless out there could be part self-preservation without the healing effects of the anabolics. If this is true, it might not be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Steroids help your body recover from injury and take the grind of an 82 game season. They heal the wear and tear of the 82 game season and keep you stronger. If you notice Ovechkin now goes on hot and cold steaks. He didnt use to have as many cold streaks, or nearly as long. He was on almost every game when he was at his best. Also the style change and being less reckless out there could be part self-preservation without the healing effects of the anabolics. If this is true, it might not be. Ovechkin actually throws more bodychecks now, he just floats around the blueline and doesn't goto the net as often. The reason why Ovechkin started going to the blueline more was due to the loss of Mike Green. Green seems completely broken at the moment and if he does snap out of it or Washington gets a new point man, Ovechkin will likely goto the net more. Ovechkin is more of a team player than people realize. I'm not denying the fact he might have been using steroids. However, Ovechkin's issues can be completely explained by the way his game has changed and has little to do with an artificially increased testosterone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I don't want to dump Gallagher just becuase of his size, I've got a really good feeling about this kid. I love Gallagher's play as well and hope he lights up the AHL next year; but, i was just wondering out loud what kind of kooky package the #1 overall pick would cost the Habs. Which for a conservative organization like the Habs, will never happen, but what if? And whether having 2 of top 3 picks would be worth the cost? Also Columbus must be a bit leery of drafting any more Russians, given their track record and trading down for roster players to rebuild quicker might be more appealing to them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbp Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I love Gallagher's play as well and hope he lights up the AHL next year; but, i was just wondering out loud what kind of kooky package the #1 overall pick would cost the Habs. Which for a conservative organization like the Habs, will never happen, but what if? And whether having 2 of top 3 picks would be worth the cost? Also Columbus must be a bit leery of drafting any more Russians, given their track record and trading down for roster players to rebuild quicker might be more appealing to them? Well when Burke drafted the Sedins he traded his... 4th overall pick and two thirds for the 1st overall. I know that was a time ago and things have changed and all... but thats the one first overall pick trade I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 Well when Burke drafted the Sedins he traded his... 4th overall pick and two thirds for the 1st overall. I know that was a time ago and things have changed and all... but thats the one first overall pick trade I remember. The picks used to take Rick Nash and Marc-Andre Fleury were also trade downs, but I can't look them up right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbp Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I don't like that the Islanders schedule includes two games against Pittsburgh, as well as multiple games against teams like NJ, Flordia and Ottawa who will be fighting hard to make/keep their spot in the playoffs :/ Edmonton has an interesting role to play in the pacific race with two games against LA and a game against Dallas. Minnesota gets to play some really hot teams like Chicago and a heating up Washington as well as playoff battling Flordia, LA, Phoenix and Nashville. We get... Tampa, Carolina and the Leafs in our last three games ... yikes. The tank will be close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbp Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 On Fleury and Nash... The Florida Panthers trade the first pick (Marc-Andre Fleury) and 73rd pick (3rd round) (Daniel Carcillo) to the Pittsburgh Penguins for the third pick (Nathan Horton), the 55th (late 2nd) pick (Stefan Meyer) and Mikael Samuelsson. No. 1 (Florida to Columbus): Florida trades this pick to Columbus for first-round pick (No. 3 overall, Jay Bouwmeester) and option to switch first-round picks in 2003 on June 22, 2002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbp Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 So in other words we have learned that if Florida is drafting first it will be traded haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 Oilers win! We are in 29th (I think) can someone check ROW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Oilers win! We are in 29th (I think) can someone check ROW? EDM has 26 to our 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Boom. Have to lose to Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 Three games to watch today. Right now we have isles 0 / Panthers 1 and Wild 0 / Caps 0, plus ducks/bruins tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Three games to watch today. Right now we have isles 0 / Panthers 1 and Wild 0 / Caps 0, plus ducks/bruins tonight. Ovechkin has been on fire and Washington needs this win big with Buffalo being so hot right now. Must win game for them. The Wild are just playing spoiler. Florida/LI really doesn't matter for either team so I wouldn't put any money on the outcome of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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