Machine of Loving Grace Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 If Justin Williams pulls a Gionta and wants a three year deal I stay away. If he wants one or two years? I'd definitely take a flyer on him if we buy out Parenteau. Same with Ward. Soderberg I'd take if we traded Eller away. Cole is a cripple, Vermette is streaky and overrated, Frolik is good but will probably look for a Jussi Jokinen type deal. Matt Beleskey is another but he'll get a five year deal somewhere he doesn't deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 About RW, none is better than Gallagher. I'd pass. Gallagher makes scoring happen, however... (1) He can't be out there all the time. (2) He was too small to dislodge the horseshoe from Bishop's arse with just "incidental contact." We need more than one capable right wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 1st line RW...Ovie Haha I know I'm expecting a miracle there..would McCarron be any less outrageous? We'll see I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 1st line RW...Ovie Haha I know I'm expecting a miracle there..would McCarron be any less outrageous? We'll see I guess Not sure if outrageous, but good joke. McCarron top six, haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Why not, our top six is already a laughing stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I think we'd all love to see Mccarron play in Montreal. The kid definitely needs a couple years in the A to figure out exactly where he stands as a pro though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Gallagher makes scoring happen, however... (1) He can't be out there all the time. (2) He was too small to dislodge the horseshoe from Bishop's arse with just "incidental contact." We need more than one capable right wing. Yeah I know. But I would aim way higher than Justin Williams or Eric Cole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 When we fire Bergevin, who might be the new GM? Maybe that needs it own thread? :bonk: Lou Lammarillo is available, maybe he as GM and Babcock as coach? Sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 When we fire Bergevin, who might be the new GM? Maybe that needs it own thread? :bonk: Lou Lammarillo is available, maybe he as GM and Babcock as coach? Sweet! JFJr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 JFJr Can't speak french or does he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 JFJr I am going to assume that was a joke--and not a good one. If not, you need to go lie down in a dark room, put a cool cloth on your head and take your medicine. Repeat as necessary until the delusion that replacing Marc Bergevin with JFJ would be an improvement goes away. Seek additional help if necessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 Of course it was a joke...though he is a candidate for Bruins GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuternoga Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Canadiens GM Bergevin won't change coaching staff, re-signing Petry a 'priority' Well, I expected that Lacroix will be fired so I'm a little bit shocked* Schocked yeah android! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Right on Petry, terribly, terribly wrong on Lacroix. Going into next season with exactly the same coaching configuration is unacceptable, unless management can offer some more plausible explanation for the catastrophic PP problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 Many here are ready to accept the excuse that scorers aren't available or the price is too high. Bergevin reiterated this again this morning, suggesting that there are no trades for scorers made on the horizon. Here is the list of "scorers" meaning players on the top three lines that have been traded in the last two years. Sure, many of these deals didn't work out, and some of them aren't great, but the idea that there's no offense available is a J-O-K-E. 2014-2015 Chris StewartCurtis GlencrossErik Cole Jaromir JagrJiri TlustyEvander KaneDrew StaffordDavid PerronDerek RoyJason SpezzaPA ParenteauSam GagnerRyan KeslerNick BoninoJames NealPatric HornqvistScott Hartnell 2013-2014 Marty St LouisRyan CallahanAles HemskyVanek*Matt MoulsonMarian GaborikDavid LegwandTuomo RuutuuLee Stempniak **Shawn MatthiasDustin PennerMartin EratBrandon PirriChris Stewart**Pierre Marc BouchardPeter HollandThomas Vanek**Mathieu PerreaultDavid Perron**Bobby RyanJacob SilfverbergTyler SeguinRich PeverlyLoui ErikssonReilly SmithShawn HorcoffNino NiederreiterDave BollandMichael FrolikAlex Tanguay Forty-seven scorers were traded in the last two years. Bergevin got a deal for Vanek at the tenth bell and got PA. WEAK Direct Quote: "We'd all like to add a 25 goal scorer, they're not around, they're not available." Tell that to Yzerman, Peter Chiarelli, Glen Sather and Jim Nill who get big pieces every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 LM - I agree with your point, but I see you listed Parenteau in your list from last year. If you're going to include him in the "list of scorers" - then you have to give Bergevin credit for going out and getting him. I, instead, see him as a bit of a cautionary tale, on not being willing to settle for a "scorer" that doesn't fit with your team makeup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Quote from MB this morning. "Our power play did struggle, we finished 23rd in the league. In the playoffs we got better, I think we were 16th in the league, but there were only 16 teams left. There’s some progress there." I hope he was kidding cause being last is no improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 He was obviously kidding. Also, I think someone in the media corrected him, the Habs were 15th on the powerplay in the playoffs. (The Islanders failed to score any ppgs.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Well, I expected that Lacroix will be fired so I'm a little bit shocked* I'd have been shocked if he was fired. He's by far their most experienced and qualified of their regular assistant coaches, they weren't letting him go after one season. If the PP continues to be anemic into next year, that could change but his coaching pedigree earns him a second shot. Unfortunately, the Hamilton/St. John's coaching staff is staying intact. Three years of ineptitude and Lefebvre still has a job. If they're being that patient with someone who loses all the time, they're not firing Lacroix after one year. Edit: Stephan Lebeau won't be back on the AHL staff next year. That's good news at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I don't think it's fair to look at a 12 game snapshot of the season (Montreal's playoff run this year) and base performance appraisal on those 12 games. Teams are streaky, they go through highs and lows. It's the lucky team, more than the best team, that stays high long enough to win 16 playoff games in a year. The powerplay, however, is not a playoff-only problem. It was particularly bad in the playoffs, but it was bad all year. This is an issue we need to address in some way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Bergevin said you can't trade for number one centers because they are not available and would cost Carey Price. He's pretty much right. The two number one centers that got moved recently were moved by teams in our division who weren't gonna move them to Montreal for anything other than a Carey Price level overpayment (Ottawa and Boston). Ryan Kesler is a top six center we might have been able to get but he was basically traded for Brendan Gallagher, Nathan Beaulieu, a first and a third. Anyone wanna pay that for Backes, who's basically the same? Everyone wants to add a top six scorer but nobody wants to give up a top six scorer to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 For a team that couldn't buy a goal to keep their season alive, that is a long ass list. Keep in mind that Vanek was a miracle deal, so Bergevin was prepared to go into the playoffs with scoring problems two years in a row. The betting man says three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Right on Petry, terribly, terribly wrong on Lacroix. Going into next season with exactly the same coaching configuration is unacceptable, unless management can offer some more plausible explanation for the catastrophic PP problems. It's tough for guys to score goals when they don't have a strategy for entering the offensive zone; that's on coaching staff. I can't believe they're not making any personnel changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Knowing already that you are not changing coaching staff? Why so emphatic? Got all summer, ideas, possibilities, people may become available. Why such a staunch stand on this coaching staff who's power play is pathetic? Sounds like a bunch of suits who have become buddies and everybody is staying cozy. With that attitude and take my concern is that the Habs will stay a mere decent "regular season team" for years to come. I mean if that horrible power play is not cause for a change somewhere? What else do they and will they find as acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Come on Molson fire him already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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