lazy26 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Lol, oh God. Tell me someone is listening to this conference call with Semin Do tell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 It's going to be interesting to see how much rope he gets with Therrien. He's not a big fan of players who don't back check and see their effort levels vary from shift to shift. That pretty much describes Semin. Will he get more of a look than guys like Briere or Parenteau or will Weise be back in a top six role before too long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Do tell... So what's your goal for this season Alex? "put puck in net, win game" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 According to some Caps fans I know, Semin has played LW in the past and was fine in the position. If he can do that in Montreal, this might change my viewpoint: Pacioretty - Galchenyuk - Gallagher Semin - Plekanec - Kassian And then Bergevin figures out who the third centre is by trading Eller or DD before camp. I don't know. Apart from being overpriced, Eller has the PERFECT mix of talents to slot in as a 4th line center on any team in the league. (Why we're paying 3.5 million for that, I have NO idea.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 So what's your goal for this season Alex? "put puck in net, win game" Simple, yet brilliant. He has won me over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revvvrob Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Terrible interview. I hope it was the language barrier. I was more optimistic 10 minutes ago than I am now. That's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmike Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Helpfully we can motivate Semin, like we did when Kovalev came. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 The appropriate attitude to Semin is identical to the appropriate attitude to Kassian. 'He's got talent, he's got a history as a basket case - anything he brings is a bonus, but maybe we'll get lucky.' In short, very, very, VERY cautious optimism. Anything more than that is irrational. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Massive step backward in terms of character. We'll just have to hope that the leadership core is strong enough to absorb two head cases. I laughed out loud when I saw this news - after all my critiques of those spraying Semin all over this board! However, as I maintained throughout, my response is to shrug and hope for the best. He's a one-year stopgap who is unlikely to help us in the playoffs, but you never know. I just hope Kassian can step up as a legit top-6 FW, since he, not Semin, represents a possible longer-term answer. Ha Ha I was talking to uncle Mark the other day and.... oh yeah that was a dream. Anyway we can bury him in the minors easily at 1.1 mill. If he gives us 40 goals MB will be a real Genius. Really a no lose situation. As Uncle Mark says a pure goal scorer. Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan84 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'm a fan of this signing because there is really no risk in the signing. Worst case scenario, if he's terrible you send him down to the minors. Since his cap hit is so low when you put him in the minors his cap hit to the Habs will only be 175K. Essentially nothing. If he has a great season then all the better. We needed someone else for our top 6, and throughout most of his career he has been that player. If he has a great season and the Habs want to resign him, they better be sure to give him no more than one year deals. He could also be a stop gap for Scherbak. This will give him a year in the minors to learn the professional game. Then after that we welcome Sherbs into the fold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'm a fan of this signing because there is really no risk in the signing. Worst case scenario, if he's terrible you send him down to the minors. Since his cap hit is so low when you put him in the minors his cap hit to the Habs will only be 175K. Essentially nothing. If he has a great season then all the better. We needed someone else for our top 6, and throughout most of his career he has been that player. If he has a great season and the Habs want to resign him, they better be sure to give him no more than one year deals. He could also be a stop gap for Scherbak. This will give him a year in the minors to learn the professional game. Then after that we welcome Sherbs into the fold. I don't know but I agree with you. Oh it's cause tha is what I have ben saying all along. Great minds think alike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Well seems most were saying a 1 yr $1.5m deal would be worth the risk and Bergy did a bit better than that, so bit of a no brainer and worth a contract. Did no other team have a better offer I wonder? Or did 28 other GMs simply have no interest at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Well seems most were saying a 1 yr $1.5m deal would be worth the risk and Bergy did a bit better than that, so bit of a no brainer and worth a contract. Did no other team have a better offer I wonder? Or did 28 other GMs simply have no interest at all? Or did Semin simply prefer Montreal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 24, 2015 Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 Or did Semin simply prefer Montreal? If Markov called him to encourage him to sign in Montreal, one gets the feeling that means he took less to get Bergevin to send a contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 If Markov called him to encourage him to sign in Montreal, one gets the feeling that means he took less to get Bergevin to send a contract. Semin said he spoke with Markov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I don't know about "massive" step back. Prust had character and toughness, but even IMO was a liability with bad penalties and mouthing off at the refs in the playoffs. PAP is a less skilled, french Semin. At $1.1M, this was a no brainer compared to PAP, who outside of shootouts was useless. Massive step backward in terms of character. We'll just have to hope that the leadership core is strong enough to absorb two head cases. I laughed out loud when I saw this news - after all my critiques of those spraying Semin all over this board! However, as I maintained throughout, my response is to shrug and hope for the best. He's a one-year stopgap who is unlikely to help us in the playoffs, but you never know. I just hope Kassian can step up as a legit top-6 FW, since he, not Semin, represents a possible longer-term answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 24, 2015 Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 Prust was a fantastic locker room guy. So was Colby Armstrong. And Josh Gorges. And Hal Gill. And Peter Budaj. And Cristobal Huet. And... I think the only time a "great locker room guy" left and the team went to poop in the locker was Doug Gilmour. He was the real captain and Koivu couldn't control anything when he was gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'm certainly not saying the team will "go to poop" because Prust left (!). That would be absurd. All I'm saying is we subtracted one of the blood-and-guts character veteran leaders on the team, and added not one, but two certifiable head-cases. It's quite possible - indeed, likely - that the leadership core can absorb this. But there does have to come a point at which you reach a critical mass of losers rather than winners in your locker room. Semin is a grade-A, proven loser, Kassian has maybe two more years (being generous) to prove he isn't one. So I'd say the "character" question is at least worth raising, even if it probably isn't worth ripping our hair over at this point. (Indeed, the team culture seemed undamaged by the presence of one of the all-time bums of his generation, Rene Bourque, so it can probably handle Bourque plus one, which is what we have now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'm certainly not saying the team will "go to poop" because Prust left (!). That would be absurd. All I'm saying is we subtracted one of the blood-and-guts character veteran leaders on the team, and added not one, but two certifiable head-cases. It's quite possible - indeed, likely - that the leadership core can absorb this. But there does have to come a point at which you reach a critical mass of losers rather than winners in your locker room. Semin is a grade-A, proven loser, Kassian has maybe two more years (being generous) to prove he isn't one. So I'd say the "character" question is at least worth raising, even if it probably isn't worth ripping our hair over at this point. (Indeed, the team culture seemed undamaged by the presence of one of the all-time bums of his generation, Rene Bourque, so it can probably handle Bourque plus one, which is what we have now). I question Prust as "leadership core." I liked the guy, but his meltdowns were epic. Cost us at least one playoff game, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 As long as don't see him slap fight anyone in a habs jersey, I see no negative to this signing. The big question is do two low risk aquisitions like Kassian and semin make the habs a better team than last year? I wouldn't bet on it, but it could happen. We all know that if this team is to contend, the window is Price and Pacioretty contract expiry. So three seasons. I guess we will all have to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Semin is on a 1 year contract. He does well on 1 year contracts, we are not stupid enough to off him a long term big money contract like the hurry canes did. I don't know that he is a proven loser, he has been an awfully good producer most years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I wonder if this helps us sign AG? A little pressure on the kid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I wonder if this helps us sign AG? A little pressure on the kid? Why would it put pressure on him? They play different positions and are in entirely different situations. A deal needs to get done and that was the case before and after this signing. As I wrote yesterday on the site, he has one card to play, drag it out like a lot of other RFA's in similar situations have done recently. That doesn't change with adding Semin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 well it was kind of a random thought off my pointy little head but, Semin plays left or right, so he could play left Alex center and whoever on the right. Also if Semin signs for 1.1 million, does it show the kid you gotta produce to get paid. Does he want to play with Semin? Maybe, anyway it was a 1/2 baked notion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 One of my first thoughts when the deal was signed is that Semin would give the Habs another decent threat for the PP. He didn't exactly do that with Carolina last year though, getting just 4 assists (0 goals) in nearly 86 minutes of PP ice time, or roughly one point per 21:30 of PP TOI. Some approximate Montreal comparisons: Desharnais: 11 in 196 minutes, 1 point per 17:45 of PP TOI Eller: 2 points in 36 minutes,1 point per 18:00 of PP TOI Galchenyuk: 12 points in 178 minutes, 1 point per 15:00 of PP TOI Gallagher: 8 points in 200 minutes, 1 point per 25:00 of PP TOI Pacioretty: 11 points in 206 minutes, 1 point per 18:45 of PP TOI Parenteau: 4 points in 125 minutes, 1 point per 31:15 of PP TOI Plekanec: 16 in 180 minutes, 1 point per 11:30 of PP TOI Those were the top seven forwards in total PP TOI with Montreal last season. Semin only beat two of those players, one them being the one whose buyout made the Semin signing possible. So perhaps this signing won't be as much of a boon for the PP as I initially hoped. (And for anyone wondering about Semin's 2013-14 production in comparison, it was roughly 1 point per 18:30 of PP TOI which still doesn't beat many on the above list.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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