Habs30/31 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Bring on the undefeated Wings ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Yup. What'd I say? DD will deliver, no matter what line you put him on. 5 games is early, but on the third line he's on pace for 16 goals and 48 assists. He'll slow down, but 45-55 points is always what he's good for. I remember you saying that. Wholeheartedly agree. (Though at the time I jokingly said let's put him on the forth) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 You are right but that's what he has to do. Let him play. All young D do it.....remember Subban under Martin, with the give aways, bad pinches and terrible penalties at the worst times. ha! Nate also has the added burden that the top four dont.....Glibert as a partner. He really worked his ass off when we were on our heels just before 10 minutes of the third. Made a giveaway when they finally got the puck out but just how tired was he at that moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Semin had some nice spurts.. sorry.. If I were more mature... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Damnit! Need to be at work in four hours. Gotta catch some shutout.... I mean shuteye. Allez Allez Montréal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Thats where he played best last year too....third line. Not against the other teams top pair. He's best on the second or third because 45-55 points isn't enough for the top line, and he's going to perform no matter where you put him, you might as well spread out your scoring. However, it's not true that he only outperforms Eller because Eller never gets the good assignments. DD outperforms Eller because he's better than Eller. Eller doesn't look any better playing with Gally and Semin than he did centering 3. DD looks awesome centering 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Sorry to put any negative spin on this game; but my only question is how many goals NY will beat Habs by... one or five? I fully expect a terrible flat performance by Habs and haven't gone 5-0 for a reason. Live it down Don! Live it downnnnnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Good points about Beaulieu's play. I'm sure its worth all the hair I've pulled out. But what an upside to this kid. Our D is ridiculous. Mr G said we build a team from the goal out. We're building a team. God bless you Mr Gainey. Damnit! Need to be at work in four hours. Gotta catch some shutout.... I mean shuteye. Allez Allez Montréal! G'nite Dalhabs.. Sleep concentrated with some really good hockey memories. Live it down Don! Live it downnnnnn Hahahah.. Don's a big guy. He'll be happy to be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Nice to have the biggest comeback win in history as well as our best start to the season in history both come against the Rags. I don't hate them, but I don't like them very much My Shameful Habs Life Moment came in February 2008 when my friend was over and wanted to switch the game off at 0-5 against the Rangers so we could play NHL 08 instead. I caved, only to watch the highlights later on that evening in disbelief. Promise, I would have watched the whole thing regardless if only he hadn't been there! So to watch this one felt especially nice. Great game as well! Really glad Price got the shutout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 He's best on the second or third because 45-55 points isn't enough for the top line, and he's going to perform no matter where you put him, you might as well spread out your scoring. However, it's not true that he only outperforms Eller because Eller never gets the good assignments. DD outperforms Eller because he's better than Eller. Eller doesn't look any better playing with Gally and Semin than he did centering 3. DD looks awesome centering 3. Eller has been one of the best forwards. Drives the play almost every shift. Not sure why your hating on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 what about the ol general showing a little bit of his character and doing the circle around Subban during the torch shenanigans... this teams locker room attitude is the best i have ever seen since i can remember and that would be 1987 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Eller has been one of the best forwards. Drives the play almost every shift. Not sure why your hating on himBecause he is the whipping boy for not being able to score 20 goals/50 points while playing with 3rd/4th line grunts and getting almost zero PP time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Because he is the whipping boy for not being able to score 20 goals/50 points while playing with 3rd/4th line grunts and getting almost zero PP time. Ya, getting pretty tired of that. I notice him everytime he's out there. He gets in the dirty spot and works his ass off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I've been fine with Eller after the first game. Gets bodies off pucks, carries pucks, makes chances. Been completely happy with his play. Can Eller do this consistently? History says no, I hope he says yes. I didn't have a problem with 27-30 point third line centre Eller. I had a problem with 27-30 point Eller where he's invisible for three months and those points come from hot streaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Because he is the whipping boy for not being able to score 20 goals/50 points while playing with 3rd/4th line grunts and getting almost zero PP time. Throughout his career, he's had chances on every line. He's now had his centering duties taken away from him and he's got a kickass center feeding him the puck, and a skilled wing on the other side, too. He's gotta show some offense to earn his 3.5 million a year. 3.5 million is what you pay a guy who can get you 40 points or 20 goals. It's not what you pay a plumber to go into the corners. Besides, Eller is not a defensive specialist. He's weak in his own end. He's a perpetual minus player on a plus team. If he cannot generate offense, he's not doing anything. This is it for him - I don't know how many "last chances" a guy is supposed to get, but he's burned through them all. This season he's got a prime opportunity on the second line with some great skilled players to get results. I don't care how you feel he's been playing. I don't care that he looks like he's making things happen. Everyone does that once in a while. What I care about -- all I care about -- is results. In the end, potential becomes worthless if you never live up to it. He's had potential forever. Now show us NUMBERS. All the skill in the world is useless if you don't make it work for you. He has to start producing now. (As for the powerplay, the habs have a better chance at scoring even strength than they do with the man advantage. Powerplay time on this team actually lowers your production.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Nice to have the biggest comeback win in history as well as our best start to the season in history both come against the Rags. I don't hate them, but I don't like them very much My Shameful Habs Life Moment came in February 2008 when my friend was over and wanted to switch the game off at 0-5 against the Rangers so we could play NHL 08 instead. I caved, only to watch the highlights later on that evening in disbelief. Promise, I would have watched the whole thing regardless if only he hadn't been there! So to watch this one felt especially nice. Great game as well! Really glad Price got the shutout. Hahaha.. good story. I forgive ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Habs first in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Habs first in the league Ya babeee!! What a nice start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Throughout his career, he's had chances on every line. He's now had his centering duties taken away from him and he's got a kickass center feeding him the puck, and a skilled wing on the other side, too. He's gotta show some offense to earn his 3.5 million a year. 3.5 million is what you pay a guy who can get you 40 points or 20 goals. It's not what you pay a plumber to go into the corners. Besides, Eller is not a defensive specialist. He's weak in his own end. He's a perpetual minus player on a plus team. If he cannot generate offense, he's not doing anything. This is it for him - I don't know how many "last chances" a guy is supposed to get, but he's burned through them all. This season he's got a prime opportunity on the second line with some great skilled players to get results. I don't care how you feel he's been playing. I don't care that he looks like he's making things happen. Everyone does that once in a while. What I care about -- all I care about -- is results. In the end, potential becomes worthless if you never live up to it. He's had potential forever. Now show us NUMBERS. All the skill in the world is useless if you don't make it work for you. He has to start producing now. (As for the powerplay, the habs have a better chance at scoring even strength than they do with the man advantage. Powerplay time on this team actually lowers your production.) Still owner of the best play off performance of Canadiens forward since Cammy. Scored 15 goals last season playing third line no powerplay, with a multitude of linemates. (except Max) Playing great hockey this season at both ends of the rink. You rip Eller no matter how he plays, or where, or with who. I have been guilty of the same with Pleks/DD for their no show play offs. Careful , if you continue, and repeatedly slag the big Dane (even when he is playing great)......vehicle may be tagged and/or towed. Speaking from experience. PS DD line was great last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 René Bourque had one outstanding playoffs with Montreal, too. Nobody was lobbying for his great skill and potential. I've said before, if Eller were earning 1.75 million I wouldn't have a problem with him. Right now, Weise is a better player at every part of the game. Now, I love Weise, but if we were paying him 3.5 million I'd be hating on him, too. Once you break the 3 million dollar mark, you have to be putting up numbers to show you're a top 6 forward on any team in hockey. Dale Weise has a cap hit of 1.025 Million Dollars. That's less than a third of what Eller earns. And yet he brings more to this team. Weise might be a steal at that price, but I wouldn't give him even 2.5 to stay with Montreal. Weise had 29 points and was a +21 last year. Eller had 27 points and was a -6 last year. (Everyone else on his lines were + players.) One of these is more than worth his $1 million salary. The other is not worth their $3.5 million salary. Yet. I want him to prove me wrong. I want him to be a 40+ point, 20 goal scoring threat to add to Montreal's offense. I've wanted that for years. I've had high hopes since his amazing lockout-shortened season and that playoff performance you mentioned, that, "Hey, maybe this guy is going to break out now!" He hasn't done it. *** 2011: 17 points, -4 *** 2012: 28 points, -5 *** 2014: 26 points, -15 *** 2015: 27 points, -6 *** You gotta hand it to him, for a guy as streaky as he is, he's remarkably consistent, year after year. He's gets high-20's in points, and is a minus player. Every single season - except the lockout season where he managed 30 points in 48 games and was a +8. But hells, that year the Leafs made the playoffs. Strange things were happening. Lars Eller needs to get it done. You can say it's not realistic to expect that type of production from him, but we're paying him as if we think we can get that production out of him. 27 point guys don't earn that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Are you still talking about Eller? Get over it. We know you don't like him. The same as you said Beaulieu shouldn't be in NHL because he wasn't putting up enough points. Watch a couple games maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Are you still talking about Eller? Get over it. We know you don't like him. The same as you said Beaulieu shouldn't be in NHL because he wasn't putting up enough points. Watch a couple games maybe I'm still not convinced Beaulieu's ready. He's been their second-worst d-man in five games so far, looks utterly lost out there. (Emelin is a bigger issue). Every time they get hemmed in their own zone for any extended period of time, it seems Beaulieu is on the ice. I'd rather see Tinordi in. I have NHL Gamecentre. I've watched every game so far this season. I think, part of too many people's problems, is they base their opinions on how they feel players play. They watch the game, and they assume that because they like how a guy looks when he touches the puck, that he's doing well. This is why useless turds like Oleg Petrov had so many fans, even though he contributed very little to the success of the team. In the end, the numbers tell the only tale that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 beaulieu not ready for what? we are 5-0 and just out right rolling... minus the PP beaulieu is just fine... he maybe trying to do a little to much to soon in this early season as he's finally earned a consistent spot in the top 6. most kids get this way when finally given a real change to actually play the game and not get benched or scratched after making a mistake. his game will level off and most likely he'll take it to another level... it also doesn't help that he has gilbert to fall back on as partner " not the strongest of assurances back there" markov subban beaulieu petry emelin pateryn (emelin needs to stay and be more physical or he is scratched) ** the evolution of the defence beaulieu>tinordi there is no question about that right now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 beaulieu>tinordi there is no question about that right now!! Beaulieu has more upside than Tinordi, sure. However, in their own end, I'd trust Tinordi more. Also, Tinordi's going to lay more punishment on the opposition, something Beaulieu isn't built to do. Since right now, they'd both get about the same offensive totals (which is, basically, nothing), i'm more inclined to go for the stay-at-home, big punishing guy over the fast, potentially offensive guy who's not giving us offense. At this point, I agree with playing Pateryn over Gilbert. I do think gilbert has some trade value, I'm hoping they're playing him to boost that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Fun game, hard to believe they showed up to play as they did in 1st game after road trip and for a fifth win in a row. Awesome game by Price and 3rd line leading the way is a great sign. I sure hope Semin is just "not up to speed' yet, seems like is as bad as expected, bring on Byron, Hudon or any other option who can actually skate and keep up with Eller-Galchenyuk. Should be another 'fun' game vs Wings coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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