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On 6/27/2022 at 12:52 PM, dlbalr said:

There has been some speculation that MacLean will be out as HNIC host but the gambling ads aren't going anywhere for a couple of years until that market starts to saturate. 

 

We weren't so lucky.  He stays as HNIC host and Hometown Hockey has been cancelled.

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Kings acquire Kevin Fiala.  The Kings were considered a possible landing spot for Gallagher but I think there is zero chance of that happening now. It was very doubtful before, only talked about I guess because of MB's relationship with him.  The Kings continue to get better. 

 

https://www.tsn.ca/los-angeles-kings-minnesota-wild-kevin-fiala-brock-faber-1.1819156

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37 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

Kings acquire Kevin Fiala.  The Kings were considered a possible landing spot for Gallagher but I think there is zero chance of that happening now. It was very doubtful before, only talked about I guess because of MB's relationship with him.  The Kings continue to get better. 

 

https://www.tsn.ca/los-angeles-kings-minnesota-wild-kevin-fiala-brock-faber-1.1819156

Honestly I think Edmonton or Toronto would be a good fit for Gallagher. They need a guy like him especially in the playoffs. He gets under a lot of players skin and Edmonton and Toronto are missing that in their line up. 

 

But with his cap hit it would have to be a 3 team trade where us and another team could eat up some of Gallagher contract.

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I doubt Gallagher would accept a trade to the leafs, although I do not remember if he has a no trade

 

Edmonton is more likely 

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2 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said:

I doubt Gallagher would accept a trade to the leafs, although I do not remember if he has a no trade

 

Edmonton is more likely 

Would much prefer to see Hoffman/Armia/Petry/Price gone morso than Gallagher.

I dont think Gallagher is likely to be dealt, but who knows.

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1 hour ago, Habsfan89 said:

Honestly I think Edmonton or Toronto would be a good fit for Gallagher. They need a guy like him especially in the playoffs. He gets under a lot of players skin and Edmonton and Toronto are missing that in their line up. 

 

But with his cap hit it would have to be a 3 team trade where us and another team could eat up some of Gallagher contract.

 

You realize there has never been a trade done where there is double retention on a player for five years, right?  It's not realistic.

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1 hour ago, DON said:

Would much prefer to see Hoffman/Armia/Petry/Price gone morso than Gallagher.

I dont think Gallagher is likely to be dealt, but who knows.

I would be glad to see all 5 gone … but doubt Price and Gallagher are going anywhere

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1 hour ago, alfredoh2009 said:

I doubt Gallagher would accept a trade to the leafs, although I do not remember if he has a no trade

 

Edmonton is more likely 

Gallagher has a 6 team NTC … Toronto may seem like a logical inclusion (like Gorges not wanting to go) but like it or not they are a Cup contender quality roster … after a taste last season BG may now have different priorities … 

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13 minutes ago, dlbalr said:

 

You realize there has never been a trade done where there is double retention on a player for five years, right?  It's not realistic.

So true … it would take a team that wants him at a reduced AAV … don’t see HuGo retaining a huge portion, but maybe $1.5-2 million … but don’t see even that happening unless BG has a a very good season next year

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3 minutes ago, GHT120 said:

So true … it would take a team that wants him at a reduced AAV … don’t see HuGo retaining a huge portion, but maybe $1.5-2 million … but don’t see even that happening unless BG has a a very good season next year

 

That's $7.5M-$10M on Montreal's side.  How much do they have to get back to justify that?  (For that much money, I think they'd be asking for a 1st rounder.)  And then the facilitating team probably has to retain a similar-sized portion, meaning they'll need a similar acquisition value to do their part.  For whoever's acquiring Gallagher, compensating Montreal and the facilitator team at fair value to compensate for the cash spending/dead cap will cost a whole lot more than Gallagher is actually worth.  That's why these types of double-retention on long-term deals have never happened and won't anytime soon and certainly not with Gallagher.

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3 minutes ago, dlbalr said:

 

That's $7.5M-$10M on Montreal's side.  How much do they have to get back to justify that?  (For that much money, I think they'd be asking for a 1st rounder.)  And then the facilitating team probably has to retain a similar-sized portion, meaning they'll need a similar acquisition value to do their part.  For whoever's acquiring Gallagher, compensating Montreal and the facilitator team at fair value to compensate for the cash spending/dead cap will cost a whole lot more than Gallagher is actually worth.  That's why these types of double-retention on long-term deals have never happened and won't anytime soon and certainly not with Gallagher.

I was looking at a straight deal *** IF *** Gallagher can get his game together 

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9 minutes ago, GHT120 said:

I was looking at a straight deal *** IF *** Gallagher can get his game together 

 

Even at that.  If the Habs wanted a first-round pick for that much cumulative cash/cap retention - and they'd be justified in doing so - that's still more than Gallagher is worth.

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Just now, dlbalr said:

 

Even at that.  If the Habs wanted a first-round pick for that much cumulative cash/cap retention - and they'd be justified in doing so - that's still more than Gallagher is worth.

At some point the cap space may be worth minimal return

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