brobin Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 No no it's not what I meant. Begin should been the one who missed the 1st shot, and Koivu should made the backhander (as he is more skilled than Steve) Ah.. well yes, that was the irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 That is nitpicking. At what point does a 21 year old who has given up 4 goals on 67 shots get a pass on a bad goal? Considering he made a circus stop to stop the score from being 3-1 and was beaten on two PP goals. Pierre Maguire said the league had figured out Huet 2 seasons ago and the league just had to go upstairs on him. Well ######ing duh. That is the book on ALL butterfly goalies including the immortal Patrick Roy. Yet Huet made an All-Star team half a season later and was the most sought after free agent goaltender this off season. Roy used to get beat high glove side when he went down early. Price will probably get beat there for the next 20 years regularly. In all honesty, what does this kid have to do to ease people's fears? He is the only reason they got a point against Buffalo on Friday night and was the 3rd star tonight (according to RDS). Enjoy the fact that Price is not playing in Columbus or Minnesota while we are moaning about when Gilbert Brule or Benoit Pouliot will make an impact. The kid is good and has SUPERSTAR written all over him, enjoy it instead of fearing the worst. That shit will end when Laraque is out on the ice. The Flyers have a reputation as tough, I think it is miscast. They are not tough, they are DIRTY. I know you are in love with Price, but do you need to freak out every time someone notes an area he needs work on? There have been about 8 bad goals going back to last year's playoffs and they are all the same. It is not about going high, as he is not weak "high". It is a very specific angle problem for shots coming across his body to his glove. Several of them have not even been high shots, for that matter. I don't recall anyone suggesting that Price's career was over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Good evening boys. Just got back home! Well, our boys didn't really show up for the first 40 minutes, but they really turned it up a notch in the 3rd and the Flyers couldn'T keep up! This victory against a rough and dirty Flyers team is twice as sweet because Laraque wasn't in the line-up! Price was solid once again, and everyone played a good game. I noticed that Brisebos and Koivu were having some problems with their skating. I ust hope they aren't caying some injury! Mark my words, the Kostitsyn brothers are gonna superstars in this league withing the next 3 years!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 IMO, Price stole us points tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wamsley01 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) blah blah blah. The kid has been spectacular this season, pre-season and regular season. Yet I still have to sit through whining about a weak glove hand because he let in 8 goals glove side since the playoffs? I am sure you would still tell me that the $5M would better be spent on Huet instead of Tanguay as well, as you did ad nauseum last season. When somebody has some legit criticism other than a butterfly goalie going down getting beat glove hand high as a weakness, (a weakness of EVERY butterfly goalie posseses) then I will listen, otherwise it is nitpicking. Until then I will prefer to focus on the positives of having a goalie who is playing great and making less than $1M per season who kept the team in the game tonight until they found their game in the 3rd. If you want to criticize his puckhandling, go nuts. Because he has had plenty of Roy type giveaways, but the something wrong with his glove hand criticism is unimaginative and lame. Edited October 14, 2008 by Wamsley01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 blah blah blah. The kid has been spectacular this season, pre-season and regular season. Yet I still have to sit through whining about a weak glove hand because he let in 8 goals glove side since the playoffs? I am sure you would still tell me that the $5M would better be spent on Huet instead of Tanguay as well, as you did ad nauseum last season. When somebody has some legit criticism other than a butterfly goalie going down getting beat glove hand high as a weakness, (a weakness of EVERY butterfly goalie posseses) then I will listen, until then I will prefer to focus on the positives of having a goalie who is playing great and making less than $1M per season who kept the team in the game tonight until they found their game in the 3rd. If you want to criticize his puckhandling, go nuts. Because he has had plenty of Roy type giveaways, but the something wrong with his glove hand criticism is lame. And this is why goalie is the most ungrateful position in almost all sports. Every goal you allow can be accounted as a mistake that gets dissected over and over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Does Andrei and Sergei have another brother?? Get 'em all! If they dont, get their parents the presidential suite at the Hilton, lots of Champagne for her and lots of Viagra for him. Scramble all TV channels except for the Playboy channel on and lock them in. Should be good enough to give us a 3rd Kostitsyn in about 18 yrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wamsley01 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 And this is why goalie is the most ungrateful position in almost all sports. Every goal you allow can be accounted as a mistake that gets dissected over and over. Agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) Well, Price looked bloody good to me. Let's hear some raving over that amazing goal-line save that kept the game at 2-1, too!! The kid is legit, but of course he is also an unproven commodity - which is why I'm very glad we have Halak around to play oh, 35 games and step in should Price hit a bad stretch. Those who talk about "showcasing" Halak and trading him for an upgrade in other areas are foolishly devaluing depth in goal. Or else overrating Marc Denis. In any case: HUGE win tonight, very psychologically important. The Flyers are the Habs' principal rivals for top team in the East (although the Rangers can't be discounted) and they have the mental edge of having clobbered us in the playoffs. I find that they also tend to have the initiative when they play us; that is, the Habs usually seem to be in the position of trying to "respond" to the physical challenge, the general intensity level, and the excellent game plan, rather than being the ones forcing adjustments by the opposition. The Flyers continued to have that initiative for most of tonight, but on the whole, we gave ourselves strong grounds to believe that our new blood gives us an extra ingredient that we lacked last year. We can draw self-belief from that in future contests: we're not last year's team that lost to Philly, we're now better, stronger, with more weapons. The Flyers also learned that we're good enough to beat them even when we are outplayed for significant chunks of the game. Which is why it was huge. Finally, the Flyers really seem to be well-coached and to execute the plan to a "T." They absolutely target Markov and Komisarek for non-stop punishment and aggarvation - which is just plain smart hockey. They very aggressively attack our point men on the PP, which also seems to be a key. What's I'm not seeing so far is an analogous move on the Habs' part, some set of tactics that neuter the Flyers's strengths. We beat them tonight, I thought, with superior goaltending and serious skill, but not the "game plan." I could be missing something, of course. Of course, Laraque will make a huge difference too... That cheap bullsh*t will be reduced with Gorgeous George patrolling around out there. Edited October 14, 2008 by The Chicoutimi Cucumber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Boagalott Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Wamsley01 I agree with most of your post. Top shelf on every goalie is a weakness. A perfect shot will make any goalie look useless and most of these perfect shots happen when the golaie is on his knees and the shooter nails the top corner almost hitting the goal post. Shots like that will go in every time. i.e. lil A.K.s shot tonight. I dont think Biron had any clue where the puck went, except that it was behind him from everybodies reactions. Personaly I dont really consider Hasek that good because nobody seems to ever shoot the puck high on him when in close. Hasek usually just flops around and has the puck slid right to him. It happens so often its uncanny and everybody seems to be in awe of his skill but I think its more like constant luck somehow. I dont think any of us could lay in the crease doing snow angels and have the same results. To score on Hasek you only really need to get the puck 16" off the ice, no top corner rerquired and still not many people scored on him. Gilbert Brule & Benoit Pouliot though? What aboot Kopitar? I still kinda wish Habs drafted Kopitar because insanely Halak looks almost as good as Price and no team really needs 2 great young goalies. It generally only causes problems and 1 will be let go for cheap because every GM knows Bob needs to get rid of one, adv everybody but Bob. Plus Kopitar is basically the large power forward the Habs have despereately needed for over a decade. Price will be great though. I agree that the Flyers arent really tough they are primarily a team full of goons. The last minute and a bit of tonights game was literally musical chairs as to which habs was going to be run over at the buzzer. Lats just had shitty luck. Larauque is only 1 guy. All the Habs need to stick up for themselves and need to win fights convincingly. So far this year it looks like the Habs will have the best wrastlers in the league again. Mark my words, the Kostitsyn brothers are gonna superstars in this league withing the next 3 years!! Thats why I say Bob should have signed lil A.K. to a 10 year $40 million deal!! Well till he is 30-31 anyway. It might sound crazy but in 3 years he will be a $6 million+ player possibly up to 8+ in a UFA biding war in just 4 years. Everybody thinks I am insane when I say that except BTH. I've said it before and I will say it again: the Kostitsyn bros could actually get more points with the Habs than the Richard bros if Bob can keep them in Habs uniforms for long enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMPL Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 What a F$%&ING GAME! Habs are awesome, bring on the Booins. Thoughts on game: Flyers are still dirty as usual Riley Cote laid out Komi I hate Downie, but still not as much as Lucic Begin's goal was awesome! Price robs Briere Still not happy with O'Byrne, even though I like Big Hitting Dmen Reffing was shitty Sergie and Lang continue to shine Kovy's pass to Hammer was steller Great to take 5 of 6 on a road trip. :ghg: If they dont, get their parents the presidential suite at the Hilton, lots of Champagne for her and lots of Viagra for him. Scramble all TV channels except for the Playboy channel on and lock them in. Should be good enough to give us a 3rd Kostitsyn in about 18 yrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafikz Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Good evening boys. Just got back home! Well, our boys didn't really show up for the first 40 minutes, but they really turned it up a notch in the 3rd and the Flyers couldn'T keep up! This victory against a rough and dirty Flyers team is twice as sweet because Laraque wasn't in the line-up! Price was solid once again, and everyone played a good game. I noticed that Brisebos and Koivu were having some problems with their skating. I ust hope they aren't caying some injury! Mark my words, the Kostitsyn brothers are gonna superstars in this league withing the next 3 years!! yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Well, at least one of my teams delivered for me tonight. Good comeback, though in general, I thought Philly pushed the play a bit. Price stole us the points early and then our team's explosiveness took over early in the 3rd. We can win games like this, but I'd be more encouraged if they won a 4-3 game by carrying the play. Great PK work, though. This aspect of the game seems much improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFT77 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Nice comeback win tonite. 4 goals in the 3rd. Gonna be fun times watchin the Habs this season. Gotta love those Kostitsyn bros. Well balanced scoring machine that could put up over 300 goals this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Nice cheap shot on lats at the end of the game.. this will get ugly.. We need George back in the lineup.. Price was utterly fantastic last night. Some of our rushes up ice display the most amazing passing skills (Kovalev to Hamrlik) but we still need some time to gel. Too many passes behind or in the skates. The Flyers are dirty as hell and are masters of legal interference. My dislike for the team is growing and Downey pisses me off much more than Lucic. Lucic plays hard, Downey plays dirty. Laraque will make a difference net game. How on earth do you move Kostopolous off the third line? He has been a beast...With Higgins coming back it is inevitable though. Maybe a fourth line of Laraque-Chipchura-Kostopolous would work well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 This game thread was dead. Nice PGD though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 First and foremost, great game thread fanpuck, thanks for your time. :bow: And this is why goalie is the most ungrateful position in almost all sports. Every goal you allow can be accounted as a mistake that gets dissected over and over. "It's all your fault, it's all your fault!" Nope, never heard it, he says with a twitch. If they dont, get their parents the presidential suite at the Hilton, lots of Champagne for her and lots of Viagra for him. Scramble all TV channels except for the Playboy channel on and lock them in. Should be good enough to give us a 3rd Kostitsyn in about 18 yrs. Now that is a wonderful idea. Great win, 5pts for 3gm, my 1st 1/4 call isn't so wild now, is it? :ghg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Riley Cote laid out Komi true, but that was after Komo leveled Cote in the first period. You knew that Coté was gonna be looking for revenge. I'm just glad it was a clean hit and Komo didn' get injured As far as Price is concerned, this kid kept us in the game for 40 minutes. The habs were nowhere to be seen for the first 2 periods. THe Flyers were all over the place, and it was Price who kept us in the game. And Price may have left a soft goal in, but so did Brodeur, Luongo and Huet last night. EVERY goalie let's in a bad goal once in a while, and these happen more often at the beginning of the season. As the season progeresses, you'll see less and less soft goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMPL Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 true, but that was after Komo leveled Cote in the first period. You knew that Coté was gonna be looking for revenge. I'm just glad it was a clean hit and Komo didn' get injured Yep. I think Komi's the only one on the team who wouldn't get hurt from that hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Recap and player ratings are up. http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=1708 http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=1709 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wamsley01 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Wamsley01 I agree with most of your post. Top shelf on every goalie is a weakness. A perfect shot will make any goalie look useless and most of these perfect shots happen when the golaie is on his knees and the shooter nails the top corner almost hitting the goal post. Shots like that will go in every time. i.e. lil A.K.s shot tonight. I dont think Biron had any clue where the puck went, except that it was behind him from everybodies reactions. Personaly I dont really consider Hasek that good because nobody seems to ever shoot the puck high on him when in close. Hasek usually just flops around and has the puck slid right to him. It happens so often its uncanny and everybody seems to be in awe of his skill but I think its more like constant luck somehow. I dont think any of us could lay in the crease doing snow angels and have the same results. To score on Hasek you only really need to get the puck 16" off the ice, no top corner rerquired and still not many people scored on him. Gilbert Brule & Benoit Pouliot though? What aboot Kopitar? I still kinda wish Habs drafted Kopitar because insanely Halak looks almost as good as Price and no team really needs 2 great young goalies. It generally only causes problems and 1 will be let go for cheap because every GM knows Bob needs to get rid of one, adv everybody but Bob. Plus Kopitar is basically the large power forward the Habs have despereately needed for over a decade. Price will be great though. I agree that the Flyers arent really tough they are primarily a team full of goons. The last minute and a bit of tonights game was literally musical chairs as to which habs was going to be run over at the buzzer. Lats just had shitty luck. Larauque is only 1 guy. All the Habs need to stick up for themselves and need to win fights convincingly. So far this year it looks like the Habs will have the best wrastlers in the league again. Thats why I say Bob should have signed lil A.K. to a 10 year $40 million deal!! Well till he is 30-31 anyway. It might sound crazy but in 3 years he will be a $6 million+ player possibly up to 8+ in a UFA biding war in just 4 years. Everybody thinks I am insane when I say that except BTH. I've said it before and I will say it again: the Kostitsyn bros could actually get more points with the Habs than the Richard bros if Bob can keep them in Habs uniforms for long enough. I only mentioned Pouliot and Brule because the Habs brass said they were going to take Pouliot had he been available and the media and fanbase had pegged Brule as the pick. I wanted Kopitar, but am more than happy with the results of that draft. As for Hasek, it is the same as Roy. Hasek played the percentages and in an overly expanded era he bet that alot of the hacks who were essentially AHLers would not be able to execute in close and would panic and slap pucks into his body. Gifted players have the patience and hands to roof those opportunities. Roy said he read a study in the late 80s that said 80% of goals went in along the ice and hence he decided to dominate the net down low. He has said that if a guy comes in a places it top shelf that he will tip his hat and bet that that player could not do it again. Every butterfly goalie is susceptible to high glove side. But I watched the game on Express last night and Carter not only drilled the shot inside the far post but it also looked like a partial screen. Jumping on one of the guys who was essentially one of the biggest factors in the victory is peculiar to me. Anybody notice that they gave Lats assist on the game winner to S. Kostitsyn on the coverage last night? Latendresse now has 1 goal and 3 assists in 3 games to start the season. Good start for the kid, I hope he can continue to excel on the top lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Even though it took them until the 3rd period to get going, glad to see they could pull out the win. Habs editions of the past waited until about 4 minutes to go in the game before they really started pressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Latendresse now has 1 goal and 3 assists in 3 games to start the season. Good start for the kid, According to ESPN.com, he still has only 1 G and 2 A. I then checked NHL.com/ Canadiens and they have him listed at 1 G and 3 A, but they also have S. Kostitsyn as having only 4 points, when every other news source has him down with 5 points! I guess it doesn't really matter, cause both of them have had a very good start to the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wamsley01 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 According to ESPN.com, he still has only 1 G and 2 A. I then checked NHL.com/ Canadiens and they have him listed at 1 G and 3 A, but they also have S. Kostitsyn as having only 4 points, when every other news source has him down with 5 points! I guess it doesn't really matter, cause both of them have had a very good start to the season. It will be changed. If you watch the replay Latendresse chips the puck past the defender, it rolls around the end boards to Koivu, Koivu feeds it back to Komisarek who shoots it on net for the goal. The RDS feed also had Hamrlik's goal as being from only Kovalev when AK46 was the one who dealt it directly to Kovy. They both have 4 pts, and I am sure they will all recognize it in the next couple of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Good to know! Both of them deserved points on those goals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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