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at least we got a pt...and OB looked good today and seems like his getting better..

i dont know why anyone is losing their mind..i for one knew we wasnt going to be that good this year and that we were missing a few players to be a real good team..

with all the guys we had hurt this year, i think we are doing pretty well over all..

i what us to make the playoffs as a habs fan but it be close..

i was mostly hoping that the guys we pick up would learn to play as a team(win or lose) and then we get a good draft pick and hope bob would make a couple of trades and bring a few more good players in the off season..

i really think we are on a 3 year plan..

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Problem is we hover near a playoff spot (it seems yearly) so we end up with a mid-late 1st round pick, while the real game breakers gems are long gone by then.....

Look at Chicago a few years ago (bad for a couple years in a row) getting better with GOOD young talent......

And we don't seem to want to take the "risk" to either trade up or made a blockbuster trade to get what we need...........

Guess we're going to have to settle again this year..........

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Look at the bright side we will have a two week break and will

cheer for a team with Crosby, Toews and Brodeur to name a few.

Cammelleri out is the worst thing that could happen right now.

Only guy that can step there would be Trotter and i wish the guy has a chance.

And what's with blaming Gomez ?? Did someone triggered Gainey to make

that trade ? He is playing like Scott Gomez always did, with a system that doesn't

open the ice he cannot use his passing skills, even the Devils system allows more speed

and space for the wingers. Come on.

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To be honest I didn't even feel the need to watch this game. For me it's crystal clear that this is a poor team and that Bob Gainey really goofed up by putting this team together during the off season. This team is inconsistant,childish,lazy,small,careless and much more I care not to write about. I beg the Molson family to rectify this situation quickly and speedily and hire someone sufficient to put together the right chatacter of players who will jell and compete in this new NHL. We the fans have had enough of this garbage!

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No one is absolved of blame, but give Fisher full credit for his speed and drive to the net. It's hard to defend when it's 3 on 3.

Getting other teams credi ? I think it is not allowed here.

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To be honest I didn't even feel the need to watch this game. For me it's crystal clear that this is a poor team and that Bob Gainey really goofed up by putting this team together during the off season. This team is inconsistant,childish,lazy,small,careless and much more I care not to write about. I beg the Molson family to rectify this situation quickly and speedily and hire someone sufficient to put together the right chatacter of players who will jell and compete in this new NHL. We the fans have had enough of this garbage!

half the teams in the league is in the same boat as us if not worst off..if it would only be so easy to put together a cup team every year..if you know how..let us all now..i think its fun that people thinks this team was going to win the cup this year..

we had a five year plan that went to sh*t..we finish first one year and then the next year everything fail apart in the dressing room..the coach lost the team..our C could get them to come together..our vet could rise to the job and the kids couldnt live up to what fans what..

so we blow up the team and now we must give them time to get back on track..this is a 3 year plan at least...you do get it that there 30 teams in the nhl and they all have the same goal..this team really need a few more changes and a little luck of all our star players not getting hurt..

i really think with a few more plays that we are going to be a really good team..

we need one more top 6 foward..a much better 3rd and 4th line and maybe one more top 4 D..but it take time to get these players..

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We just lost 3-2 to the hottest team in hockey and we played a good game. Abandon ship?

We just lost Cammalleri to an injury. No one will be able to step up at all. Stamped it, no erasies?

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We also got out shot (again) and generated little pressure in the offensive zone (again). And looked lost out there at times (again). All these things seem to happen every game, sometimes we get a W most times a L or OTL...

I could seem optimistic "if" we could cycle the puck longer in the offensive zone (and create good scoring chances off the cycle) instead of one rush (and one shot) and the pucks out and "if" we had more jump in our game and "if" our D could be more agressive at our blueline stepping up to play the man instead of letting them into the zone so easy and "if" we could score a couple of EVEN STRENGTH GOALS every now and then. But IMO, we're stuck in a loop.............same gameplan game in game out, not able to keep up to other teams (both in hustling to loose pucks and creating chances etc) and the willingness to sacrifice the body (for the TEAM) either blocking shots or taking a hit to make a play/pass.

Hell i'm still a fan, but a frustrated one..........

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When the habs win they forecheck, when they lose they do not. Martins system is garbage, a puck control sysem whos method is dump the puck in and try to retrieve it with small forwards?? Also linechanges, they never do what other teams do, send a player off, get a fresh player on and give him the puck while, the rest of the line changes, no, they get their 30-40 seconds and change like clockwork, no matter if they ruin a good chance or not.

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Well, as everyone else has said, you have to think that with Cammalleri likely done for a good long time, this team is also done. I've been saying for a while (and BTH said it in August) that this team's fundamental problem is lack of depth. One injury to A. Kostitsyn (!) did serious damage to our offence. That's sad. Now you subtract simply our best offensive player and a team leader to boot? Game over.

The good news is that, if this plays out as it should - who knows, the survivors may surprise us - it will end any delusional behaviour on the GMs part about 'making the playoffs.' Inoculated by the excuse of injuries, Bob will be freed up to try to get a serious bidding war going for Plekanec, Hamrlik, and maybe Halak. I could really handle seeing high picks and/or good prospects and/or good young players coming back our way. We need them. Who knows, this could turn out to be a blessing in disguise for Rebuild 2.0.

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imagine what u'd be sayin about subban considering he's twice the player weber is

i wont point the blame on this meltdown on the players because most likely i'll rant on MAB for coasting threw another game...... clearly when he's on the PP with zero pressure and the pk'ers are playing zonal he looks great.... maybe martin thought the 4on 4 & 3on3 was a PP and a PK at the same time & said" hey, i'll use him and gill. it back fired :huh:

Most likely on the 3 on 3 he thought

" we win the faceoff, markov and MAB are on the ice already with plex.. gill comes on a stright away goes off for pouliot on for the 4 on 3 to end the OT all on the fly"

that back fired because fisher ran a "classic football post corner pattern" on markov starting from his own corner. as fisher cuts in markove lets him go to MAB then her cuts back out on marky and away he goes.... props to fischer on the play... markov gets beat on a tremendous play but there's bergeron coasting back

anyways, martin clearly was out coached in the ot. fine he loses 1 of his forward pairings on 4on4 (camm)but slow GILL! he did stop speazza after he blew by 3 other guys. how MAB gets a free pass just because of his PP point exploits boogles my mind even though he hasnt done much there either these days.

the penguins won a cup with gill playing 4 min a game on the bottom pair plus the PK.... we wont even win a calder cup with MAB playing any part on this team!

GOD BLESS OUR HABS CAUSE WE NEED IT RIGHT NOW...

"Please let cammy's injury be not to serious... let andrei return swiftly and on fire.... can our def magically start doing what it was assembled to do.... for starters"

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Well, as everyone else has said, you have to think that with Cammalleri likely done for a good long time, this team is also done. I've been saying for a while (and BTH said it in August) that this team's fundamental problem is lack of depth. One injury to A. Kostitsyn (!) did serious damage to our offence. That's sad. Now you subtract simply our best offensive player and a team leader to boot? Game over.

The good news is that, if this plays out as it should - who knows, the survivors may surprise us - it will end any delusional behaviour on the GMs part about 'making the playoffs.' Inoculated by the excuse of injuries, Bob will be freed up to try to get a serious bidding war going for Plekanec, Hamrlik, and maybe Halak. I could really handle seeing high picks and/or good prospects and/or good young players coming back our way. We need them. Who knows, this could turn out to be a blessing in disguise for Rebuild 2.0.

I will be absolutely shocked if Gainey bails on the playoffs, but I was shocked on July 1st, so who knows.

It is the right move, and he could re-invent the team again if he dealt those 3 players and nabbed a lottery pick.

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I will be absolutely shocked if Gainey bails on the playoffs, but I was shocked on July 1st, so who knows.

It is the right move, and he could re-invent the team again if he dealt those 3 players and nabbed a lottery pick.

Well, let me clarify. Gainey will not 'bail.' But I certainly doubt that he will do what he did last season and trade picks or prospects just to add talent in a desperate drive to make the playoffs. What I'm suggesting is that the team, without Cammalleri, will tumble out of the playoff race of its own accord and so remove any doubt as to whether Gainey should be a seller. I do NOT think anyone in the organization would ever consciously shoot for a lottery pick. And I would think less of them if they did.

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habsy= man crush on MAB

Awesome retort buddy, you're the MAN. Fischer blows by our best player, and then scores easily on our new number one goalie. If you think the other d-man had anything to do with it, you're new to hockey, and that's ok. I've never said MAB was higher than 6th or 7th on our depth chart. You called him something like useless. I think you judgement is cloudy. Suddenly, you're everywhere, posting about MAB. An emergency signing, powerplay specialist. We get it, LOL, you don't like the player, you've made your point about 10 times in the last week, give us all a break. You've become obsessed.

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OK let's get a bit of realism in here...

We can barely hold on to a playoff spot with most of our "talent" guys in the lineup. Now our best scorer is probably out 4 - 6 weeks....ouch.

P.S Markov is daydreaming of the olympics cause he's been a bit off lately.

Wait we have Gomez to the rescue ! Who Gomez ? oh yeah our best paid player

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I will be absolutely shocked if Gainey bails on the playoffs, but I was shocked on July 1st, so who knows.

It is the right move, and he could re-invent the team again if he dealt those 3 players and nabbed a lottery pick.

As I said earlier in the year, I also can't see Gainey giving up on the playoffs. I'm fully expecting people like Subban, Price/Halak, Pacioretty, Leblanc, Weber et al to be traded for guys that can plug spots in the roster.

The only move now is to more or less keep our team intact, make small moves toward retooling at the deadline, and "hope" the team winds up with a lottery pick.

If Gainey trades Gomez/Gionta/Cammalleri now his job is done. He must know that as well as anybody.

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As I said earlier in the year, I also can't see Gainey giving up on the playoffs. I'm fully expecting people like Subban, Price/Halak, Pacioretty, Leblanc, Weber et al to be traded for guys that can plug spots in the roster.

You have a lower opinion of Gainey than me. I would be shocked if any of these guys is traded just to help this team make the playoffs. In fact, I would join the 'fire Gainey' crowd if that happens.

But I don't think Gainey is a complete idiot. Last year was a 'go for it year' and he went for broke. This year is different. He must know that the cupboard of young talent is a bit bare and he must therefore be very interested in adding young players/picks, not losing them.

Time will tell...until I see hard evidence to the contrary, I'm sticking by my theory that Gainey is using this team as a cover for a discreet rebuild.

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Your blantent shots at Halak tell me you are just a price fan upset he is being outplayed by Halak. Halak is playing better then your lovely Price right now (according to Bob McKenzie and about every other analyst), please deal with it.

As for that goal, you can clearly see in the replay that Halak had it but Fischer's foot contacted his knee on the way throught the crease, rotating Halak and putting the puck into the net. Yeah, that is a brutal goal eh? What a joke. If only our number one guy was playing he would have stopped it.. I mean, look at that St. Louis game, where his all star goaltending couldn't stop a wrister from 40 feet.. oh .. that must have been Markov's fault?

Seriously..Halak saved a point late in the 3rd on a two on one and he played that overtime goal just as he should.. he came out, then he came back and across when the deke was on.. he got it.. if not for the foot pushing him back, it is a great save..

The issue with this team is lack of 5-5 scoring, again. Both Halak and Price give this team a chance, most games. Slow D and small forwards are the issue.. If we didn't have Halak and Price the Leafs would be laughing at us below them in the standings.

Awesome retort buddy, you're the MAN. Fischer blows by our best player, and then scores easily on our new number one goalie. If you think the other d-man had anything to do with it, you're new to hockey, and that's ok. I've never said MAB was higher than 6th or 7th on our depth chart. You called him something like useless. I think you judgement is cloudy. Suddenly, you're everywhere, posting about MAB. An emergency signing, powerplay specialist. We get it, LOL, you don't like the player, you've made your point about 10 times in the last week, give us all a break. You've become obsessed.
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