Fanpuck33 Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 On 8/16/2006 at 7:26 PM, Colin said: Yes. God forbid we talk about anything individually! We must lump all that is annoying to certain people - namely rumours - into one spot so those people don't have to read a few things, they can just avoid the one area! :king: Anyone else feel like I'm being a broken record? *giggles* And apologies to those who are implementing said ideas - nothing personal, I just don't get the need to compartmentalize like that. Taking a cue from Joe and reading some old posts. Considering my general disdain for this thread, I've always found it kind of funny that my name is forever attached to it whenever it shows up in the recent posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbp Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Hard to take much out of press conferences but Beregevin said that there are elite teams like Washington Pittsburgh then everyone else is really tight. To most this would seem pretty obvious but it is telling that he does not see us as top contenders currently. Perhaps this lends itself to a trade. Personally I think we'd need two pieces who combined wouldn't be justified getting now but i'm interested to see what we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan1989 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 What gets me is he says he won't trade top prospects , but when you make a trade like the PK trade. You are saying your all in and trying to win a cup now. If that's the case then to get a top guy that will put you over the top now you trade that top prospect to get him. If your not then the PK trade is pointless . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I'm thinking Habs need at least 3 pieces. 2nd line LW, 2nd line C, and LHD to play with Weber. If they can't get the LHD, they need an upgrade for the 3rd pair D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 1 hour ago, John B said: I'm thinking Habs need at least 3 pieces. 2nd line LW, 2nd line C, and LHD to play with Weber. If they can't get the LHD, they need an upgrade for the 3rd pair D. I don't think you need to fill all 3. To me its 2nd line C... or 1st pair LHD. Not even both. The reality is that in the cap era, you can't fill every hole. Every team has flaws. The Blackhawks won 3 cups with Dave Bolland, Mikhail Handzus, and a washed up Brad Richards as their #2 C The Penguins won a cup with Brian Dumoulin and Trevor Daley as their #2 and 3 D men. The Kings won a cup with a lack of top 6 wingers. The Bruins won a cup with a good top 2 defencemen, and spare parts 3-6, and a non-functioning powerplay. You fill what you can. You coach to maximize strengths and limit deficiencies, and you hope that your best players stay healthy and get hot at the right time. Thats all you can do in a cap era. There is no team in the NHL that has a perfect roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Habsfan1989 said: What gets me is he says he won't trade top prospects , but when you make a trade like the PK trade. You are saying your all in and trying to win a cup now. If that's the case then to get a top guy that will put you over the top now you trade that top prospect to get him. If your not then the PK trade is pointless . No..you are making assumptions and just getting rid of a prima-donna was reason enough. Does not mean you need to mortgage future for a quick fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan1989 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, DON said: No..you are making assumptions and just getting rid of a prima-donna was reason enough. Does not mean you need to mortgage future for a quick fix. I am not saying a quick fix , if you can go out and get players that can help you win now and not 4 or 5 years from now you do it. MD is 26 years old, if you can get him and have MD and AG as your centers for the next 10 years you make the trade. You do not over pay for ufa's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Habsfan1989 said: I am not saying a quick fix , if you can go out and get players that can help you win now and not 4 or 5 years from now you do it. MD is 26 years old, if you can get him and have MD and AG as your centers for the next 10 years you make the trade. You do not over pay for ufa's. And if Duchene signs with Leafs in 2019 how would overpaying for him look then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 4 hours ago, DON said: No..you are making assumptions and just getting rid of a prima-donna was reason enough. I agree, totally. I'm happy to have Weber, and don't miss whats'isface at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 19 hours ago, DON said: No..you are making assumptions and just getting rid of a prima-donna was reason enough. Does not mean you need to mortgage future for a quick fix. Don you are the only one who keeps bringing up the trade where we sent a young superstar, for an aging superstar. As The Eagles would say, Get over it, Get over it. We all have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, habs rule said: Don you are the only one who keeps bringing up the trade where we sent a young superstar, for an aging superstar. As The Eagles would say, Get over it, Get over it. We all have. Did you read what I was responding to? I do not bring up the trade, but will respond to those that do and chime in with my 2 cents. And 'all' haven't put it to bed quite yet. No need to apologize, I know you just wanted to get the music reference in there. ..but when you make a trade like the PK trade. You are saying your all in and trying to win a cup now. If that's the case then to get a top guy that will put you over the top now you trade that top prospect to get him. If your not then the PK trade is pointless . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 2 hours ago, DON said: Did you read what I was responding to? I do not bring up the trade, but will respond to those that do and chime in with my 2 cents. And 'all' haven't put it to bed quite yet. No need to apologize, I know you just wanted to get the music reference in there. ..but when you make a trade like the PK trade. You are saying your all in and trying to win a cup now. If that's the case then to get a top guy that will put you over the top now you trade that top prospect to get him. If your not then the PK trade is pointless . That looks to me to be a general statement on a trade using the one we will not mention as an example. But if nothing else I got to bug you a little bit. get over it, get over it, I just love that song. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, habs rule said: That looks to me to be a general statement on a trade using the one we will not mention as an example. But if nothing else I got to bug you a little bit. get over it, get over it, I just love that song. Sure, just trying to set him straight is all. Sorry, you didn't bug me...but now that Uncle Mike is on sabbatical, what will you find to be pissed off at...you must almost be in heaven this week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davehab Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I know he is nobody's first choice. But with the way he is playing now maybe Evander Kane would be a good addition for the playoffs. If MB could swing a deal for both Kane and kulikov it would probably not cost us anything too significant. My my only question is. Is Kulikov good enough to play with Weber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 "Approximately every single scout was in attendance for last night’s Sabres-Avalanche game, including Larry Carriere and Rick Dudley from the Habs" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 34 minutes ago, Stogey24 said: "Approximately every single scout was in attendance for last night’s Sabres-Avalanche game, including Larry Carriere and Rick Dudley from the Habs" The vultures are circling those two well built teams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Kane would be a great addition.. No idea what he night cost..?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Kane is very skilled, but Kane is an idiot. No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Stogey24 said: "Approximately every single scout was in attendance for last night’s Sabres-Avalanche game, including Larry Carriere and Rick Dudley from the Habs" Rick Dudley lives in Buffalo and is regularly one of the scouts in attendance at the Sabres games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan1989 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 The only Kane I want is the one that plays for the Blackhawks lol. with no MT we no longer have to look at his type of players. So this years trade deadline could be wide open as to who we go out and get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Some rumors of Plekanec to Tampa for Filpulla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Commandant said: Some rumors of Plekanec to Tampa for Filpulla. Is it weird that I'd rather risk losing Plekanec in the expansion draft for nothing instead of trading him now for an underwhelming return? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Filpulla is better than Plekanec right now IMO. Its an upgrade The only issue is that Filpulla must be expansion protected where Pleks doesn't The contract length is the same (both expire after next year), and Filpulla is a bit cheaper (5m vs 6) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Yep. I would do that deal all day long. Filpula has good hands and better vision in the offensive zone. Never really watched his defensive game but he's definitely stronger offensive player right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 17 hours ago, Commandant said: Filpulla is better than Plekanec right now IMO. Its an upgrade The only issue is that Filpulla must be expansion protected where Pleks doesn't The contract length is the same (both expire after next year), and Filpulla is a bit cheaper (5m vs 6) Would it be so bad if Filpula was the Hab plucked up by Vegas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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