DON Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, GHT120 said: THAT is a skill that can get him a good look in the pros next year or the year after. We hope not next year...they talk about letting them develop...another year in the OHL for Beck-Mesar seems smart. But, likely a solid Jake Evans upgrade...time will tell. A nice long playoff run would be good to see how he does, maybe get to the Memorial cup (dont think are favoured to though?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 53 minutes ago, GHT120 said: THAT is a skill that can get him a good look in the pros next year or the year after. Yes ... but junior faceoff wins don't translate to NHL faceoff wins quite so easily. (That's not to say that I'm not looking forward to seeing Beck in a Habs sweater...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 11 hours ago, DON said: 5-1 Petes mid-3rd...Bye Bye Vincent Rohrer, your season is over Buddy, world championships for Austria maybe?; Beck 2a 5 shots so far...20 for 29 on faceoffs (taken 44% of the faceoffs) Rohrer 0pts 4 shots It got to 5-4 but yes, Rohrer is out. I hope he gets a look at the Worlds. It'd be in a limited role but it'd be a good test after a year in which he didn't exactly dominate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 KIdney/Mailloux start 3rd round today. https://habsprospects.com/index.html Canadian Hockey League Stats Playoffs Player Team GP G A PTS +/- PIM Roy, Joshua Sherbrooke (QMJHL) 8 10 11 21 +10 2 Kidney, Riley Gatineau (QMJHL) 9 4 14 18 +11 4 Davidson, Jared Seattle (WHL) 8 5 8 13 +7 6 Rohrer, Vinzenz Ottawa (OHL) 11 2 10 12 +8 0 Mailloux, Logan London (OHL) 9 4 6 10 +5 16 Beck, Owen Peterborough (OHL) 10 3 4 7 +3 4 Guindon, Cédrick Owen Sound (OHL) 4 1 4 5 -2 0 Mešár, Filip Kitchener (OHL) 9 1 3 4 -4 0 Sobolev, Daniil Windsor (OHL) 4 0 0 0 -2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 13 hours ago, tomh009 said: Yes ... but junior faceoff wins don't translate to NHL faceoff wins quite so easily. True ... but its a good start ... doubt (m)any players with poor faceoff skills in junior suddenly become good in the pros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 14 hours ago, tomh009 said: Yes ... but junior faceoff wins don't translate to NHL faceoff wins quite so easily. Really? He is playing vs his peers and will be again in the NHL. Is this a fact or just your guess? You think a Bergeron/Toews were average at faceoffs in junior and then became good once in the NHL? Crosby is said that he worked hard at it & improved but still not great (53%). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 hours ago, DON said: Really? He is playing vs his peers and will be again in the NHL. Is this a fact or just your guess? Drafted players are usually the very top players on the junior teams, so they end up taking faceoffs not only against other drafted players but against many who will never play professional hockey, so their faceoff win percentages end up being inflated. And even of the drafted players, fewer than half make it to the NHL, so the faceoff opposition is really far beyond what they see in junior. If you don't want to believe me, that's OK, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, tomh009 said: Drafted players are usually the very top players on the junior teams, so they end up taking faceoffs not only against other drafted players but against many who will never play professional hockey, so their faceoff win percentages end up being inflated. And even of the drafted players, fewer than half make it to the NHL, so the faceoff opposition is really far beyond what they see in junior. If you don't want to believe me, that's OK, too. Nobody was saying he will be Patrice Begeron, or would be a guaranteed success ... just that, at very least, his CURRENT success on faceoffs would ensure him a fair shot in the pros ... of course, he will have to prove himself at each step up the ladder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 4 hours ago, tomh009 said: If you don't want to believe me, that's OK, too. Just asking if actually knew some stat(s), thats all, I was curious. I would expect top NHL centremen, were similar in minor hockey. But, like you say NHL graduates are the elite of lesser hockey calibre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 26, 2023 Author Share Posted April 26, 2023 22 hours ago, DON said: Just asking if actually knew some stat(s), thats all, I was curious. I would expect top NHL centremen, were similar in minor hockey. But, like you say NHL graduates are the elite of lesser hockey calibre. Most very good NHL faceoff men were also very good in junior. That part is true. The issue is many who are very good in junior, arent good in the NHL. Not all good juniors make good NHLers. Same with every other skill. Success in junior gives you a chance to succeed in the NHL but its no guarantee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Kidney 0pts 5-2 loss Mailloux 0pts 4-1 win Beck 1g1a 3-2 win. Roy 1g late 3rd period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Davidson 2g1a 1st star of game. 5-2 win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Kids today; Mailloux/Beck 2pm Roy/Kidney 3pm Davidson 7pm How many of these 5 are turning pro in the fall? Am guessing Beck, just 19 yr old, will (should) play 1 more year in OHL. https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/oliver-kapanen-season-grade-montreal-canadiens-centre-prospect-kalpa-liiga-offence-leadership/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Mailloux 1g 3 shots 2nd star of game Roy 1a 8 shots up 2-0 in series Kidney 2g 5 shots 3rd star of game in 4-3 loss , down 2-0 in series Beck 1a 4 shots 3-1 loss Davidson 0pts 4-3 win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Kidney 2g 5 shots 3rd star Mailloux 2a 3 shots Roy 1a 8 shots Beck 0pts 4 shots, 15/21 on faceoffs Davidson 0pts near end of 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Mailloux/Davidson/Roy/Kidney all lost Beck won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Lane Hutson and Sean Farrell will join Luke Tuch representing the Habs at the Worlds: https://www.habsworld.net/2023/05/habs-will-have-three-players-on-team-usa-at-worlds/ In terms of other prospects, I think Dichow is the only other one that might make a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 https://habsprospects.com/index.html Playoffs Player Team GP G A PTS +/- PIM Roy, Joshua Sherbrooke (QMJHL) 12 12 12 24 +6 2 Kidney, Riley Gatineau (QMJHL) 13 6 16 22 +10 4 Davidson, Jared Seattle (WHL) 12 8 10 18 +10 13 Mailloux, Logan London (OHL) 13 5 10 15 +4 26 Rohrer, Vinzenz Ottawa (OHL) 11 2 10 12 +8 0 Beck, Owen Peterborough (OHL) 14 4 6 10 -2 6 Guindon, Cédrick Owen Sound (OHL) 4 1 4 5 -2 0 Mešár, Filip Kitchener (OHL) 9 1 3 4 -4 0 Sobolev, Daniil Windsor (OHL) 4 0 0 0 -2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Kidney playoffs over Davidson up 3-1 Beck/Mailloux/Roy series all 2-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Mailloux seems to be getting better and better. He is definitely progressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 He is tied 16th OHL and 3rd in d-scoring. He had 2a in last game loss; but also took 3 minor penalties in that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 5, 2023 Author Share Posted May 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Mailloux seems to be getting better and better. He is definitely progressing. He always needed game time. He had limited games the last two years. A long playoff run is certainly helpful. He needs it more than any other Habs prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Who would be a comparable NHL d-man? Big d-man who can skate well & fire the puck; but cant defend quite so good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 1 hour ago, DON said: Who would be a comparable NHL d-man? Big d-man who can skate well & fire the puck; but cant defend quite so good? I remember reading an article a couple months ago where a scout from another NHL team compared him to Brent Burns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Mailloux 1a 6 shots 4 PIMs in a 5-2 win, up 3-2 in series. Beck 1g 4 shots 18 for 21 in faceoffs, 6-2 loss, down 3-2 in series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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