The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Here's the thing. If the Bruins could absolutely dominate a team as offensively stacked as the Pens, is there any reason for thinking that Chicago - another high-skill, up-tempo team - will be different? Just curious as to what folks think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Here's the thing. If the Bruins could absolutely dominate a team as offensively stacked as the Pens, is there any reason for thinking that Chicago - another high-skill, up-tempo team - will be different? Just curious as to what folks think. Yes. 1) Chicago can score on the Powerplay which is one thing that killed pittsburgh 2) Chicago in Keith and Seabrook have 2 defencemen better than any one on Pitt. 3) Crawford is better than Vokoun. 4) Chicago dismantled an LA team that is certainly bigger than the Bruins, and might be tougher. Chicago can win this, no guarantees, but they have some things going for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share Posted June 10, 2013 If you can beat Boston in a puck race and neutralize them low, you can beat them. Montreal has been doing it for years and it's only when they stop doing it that they lose. Chicago tends to beat teams in the West doing exactly that. If the Stache keeps to strategy, I see this a five game series for the Hawks, six at worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Inspired by the 3OT game between Chicago and Boston (thank goodness Chicago won), Grantland has a good read about the stages of playoff overtime hockey. http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/65451/the-25-stages-of-playoff-ot-hockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Remember how Crosby Lost it with Chara during game one? Here is why... http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/15/zdeno-chara-punched-sidney-crosby-in-the-jaw Naturally, Chara denies the incident based on not getting a penalty. Ah Chara... Watch the video. Of course, Chara isn't a dirty player who would intentionally punch the best player in the league on his healing jaw, just like he would never direct an unsuspecting players head into a stanchion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 16, 2013 Author Share Posted June 16, 2013 You'd be hard pressed to find a clean player in the league. I agree people acting like Chara is a clean player is silly. What bugs me is the obsession with a player being clean. Richard wasn't clean. Howe wasn't clean. Clark wasn't clean. Lindros at one point was the most dominant player in the league and he was anything but clean. Someone actually voted David Backes for the Lady Byng trophy. When people say they don't want to see Subban slewfooting players, I just don't want to see him penalized for it. Take every advantage you can, just don't get caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 I'm not too appalled by what looked like a pretty standard hockey-scrum action on Chara's part. Still, I think there's a difference - or should be - between playing "dirty" and deliberately choosing actions that can end guys' careers or even their lives. Plekanec is notorious for hacking guys up with his stick. Not cool, but he's not inflicting anything life-changing, just a few welts. But Bertuzzi on Moore, McSorely on Brashear, Chara on Patches , or even Weber on Zetterberg - these go way beyond stickwork or cheap-shots or elbows or shots taken behind the ref's back. Crosby has a concussion history and any player who intentionally sets out to aggravate this condition (and I don't mean Crosby shouldn't be hit or treated like any other player) is betraying the game and anyone who cares - not to mention basic human decency. Similarly, deliberately ramming a kid's face into a steel stanchion at high speed is not "playing dirty;" it's absolutely unconscionable, criminally negligent; scarcely different from lying in wait in the parking lot and hitting him in the face with a lead pipe. You're right that many of the greats were dirty players. And many of them also acted in ways that cross the line into the inexcusable. Richard on Lacoe and the ref was unacceptable, Clark on Kharlamov was a disgrace. Howe ended guys' careers for the simple sin of deking him out. All that stuff should be neither tolerated nor excused. What makes matters more frustrating is that Chara was universally exonerated for his attempted murder of Pacioretty on the grounds that he's some kind of saint: "not that kind of player." In fact he is that kind of player, he's just selective about when he shows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I wish we had Slava Voynov. Aaaannnd It's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 This Boston Chicago series is the best final I have seen in 20 years. I hope the last three games are as exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 I can hardly bear to watch because I want the Bruins to lose so badly. And I'm pessimistic than when they bring their "A" game, nobody can beat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbp Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 I can hardly bear to watch because I want the Bruins to lose so badly. And I'm pessimistic than when they bring their "A" game, nobody can beat them. Same here haha I can't get anyone to go watch at the pub either.. I'm in Vancouver and no one wants to see a Chicago-Boston final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 What a colossal embarrassment for the NHL, in my opinion. Oh sure, the drama was great, but the quality of hockey was just terrible. And forget the refs, what I'm referring to is the quality of play the guys on the ice were able to offer. They were dead tired, and the hockey was worse than brutal. If this is the kind of product the NHL has to offer for its signature series, then I think the whole product needs a major re-think. Watching that abysmal mess was proof positive that the season is far, far too long. Hockey needs to end when May rolls around, not shortly after summer hits. No one could skate anymore out there! I realize the drama and the ref watch is compelling stuff in and of itself - and for some I guess that's enough, but any objective appraisal of the quality of hockey can only conclude that there's something severely wrong with the NHL when it lets a farce like this last so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I liked the game. Hard work by both teams, great momentum shifts and, of course, the right team won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakiqc Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 So the team that beat the team that beat the team that beat the team that beat the Habs won the Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 Jagr with no goals in the playoffs and some people here still wish he signed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I love the way the Bruins lost this game. Couldnt have ended any better way. Looking forward to a game seven with a chance at the cup and then BAM BAM... you are down one goal with less than a minute remaining. Makes me forget our chokegames earlier this season. HAH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Jagr with no goals in the playoffs and some people here still wish he signed I believe it's the first time since the 1992 postseason that a player had double digit playoff assists without scoring a single goal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 This was an exciting nail-biter, I'm not sure what Colin is on about. AWESOME to see the Bruins lose, especially in such dramatic fashion. Not only us Habs fans are grinning with schadenfreuden, but I'd imagine Leafs fans as well. Nice to see the small, speedy Blackhawks take the prize too. They knocked out the two toughest teams in the league, both with elite goaltending - conclusive proof that mobility and guile can beat size and strength. I thought that Crawford or Keith should have won the Conne Smythe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 This was an exciting nail-biter, I'm not sure what Colin is on about. AWESOME to see the Bruins lose, especially in such dramatic fashion. Not only us Habs fans are grinning with schadenfreuden, but I'd imagine Leafs fans as well. Nice to see the small, speedy Blackhawks take the prize too. They knocked out the two toughest teams in the league, both with elite goaltending - conclusive proof that mobility and guile can beat size and strength. I thought that Crawford or Keith should have won the Conne Smythe. Colin will occasionally try his hand at sarcasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Although I was disappointed in the Habs fate, I thought the playoffs were great and the final epic. Great, tight games. Yes, I hate the lack of reffing in the playoffs, but there was still some intense games. To be honest, didnt think the Habs would have beat either of these teams in a seven game series. They just are not there yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 What Those Two Goals In 17 Seconds Were Like At One Chicago Bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 What Those Two Goals In 17 Seconds Were Like At One Chicago Bar Ha ha, that's great! I get chills watching that. If it had been the Habs, I'd have been going absolutely INSANE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I want to see the Boston Bar. Their tears sustain me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 MOLG wrote this one... hilarious. Zdeno Chara. http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/06/26/zdeno-chara-rides-a-rooster/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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