ForumGhost Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 We don't need him and he doesn't want us. I'd rather go for a bigger winger like Horton, Iginla ,Morrow or Clarkson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I'd imaging Vinny will still be looking for $4m+ per season, he could easily get $5m+. Holy shit!!?? I guess I could offer him 4 million per year, but a maximum of 3 years. I certainly wouldn't offer 5 million$ per year for 5 years..that would be ridiculous! I don't think he's worth that much! I've got nothing against Vinny, I kinda like him, but he's 33 years old, and will probably never score 40 goals a season again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I think between $4--5 mil is defensible for a huge 60-70 point C and proven playoff producer. More than that becomes insane. He's averaged 65 games a year over the past 3 seasons...and averaged about 50 points a season over that span. I'm not so sure he's worth 5 million per year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I'd take vinny over all of them. Horton would be great, but he will want $6m+ and is injury prone We don't need him and he doesn't want us. I'd rather go for a bigger winger like Horton, Iginla ,Morrow or Clarkson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 He will easily get $5m+ I'd offer him $5.5m for 1 year, $10m/ 2 years or $13m/3 years I imagine someone will give him $5.5m/yr for 5 years I think between $4--5 mil is defensible for a huge 60-70 point C and proven playoff producer. More than that becomes insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Wow, I was sure that Tampa wouldn't buy him out. Of course we will go after him, but so will everyone else. Bergevin will be crucified if he doesn't try, even though centre isn't our most pressing need. The thing about dumping Desharnais is that his value would be low, and he may actually be the one with more 60 point seasons left in the tank. But there's no question about who will be more valuable come playoff time (if Vinny stays healthy). I just don't want to see him on the Leafs or Sens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Lecavalier didn't waste much time quashing my theory of a one year deal. He'd like a deal that takes him into retirement. That's probably 5 years at a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGC21 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Lecavalier didn't waste much time quashing my theory of a one year deal. He'd like a deal that takes him into retirement. That's probably 5 years at a minimum.So 5 years @ $5.5M/year is what it's going to take to sign him?Galchenyuk will be our #1 centre in 2-3 years, then Eller, then probably Plekanec if he signs an extension. Not sure whe DD fits in. In a dream world, it'd be nice to have Lecavalier. But on paper, it makes no sense with the money he's probably looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Top three teams I think will go after Lecavalier and give him the deal he wants: - Detroit. They have $10M free and will be calling up Tatar. Can easily pay him $6M on a long term deal. - Nashville. Around $12M free and even more free with Sergei Kostitsyn leaving. Really badly need a scoring forward up front. Allows Vinny to get out of the East and stay anonymous. - Dallas. $13M free. Veteran friendly. Would be treated as the top star of the team. Gets out of the East. Any team that gets him has to remember you will rarely see a full season of Vinny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 So 5 years @ $5.5M/year is what it's going to take to sign him? I'd say that's probably in the ball park of what it would take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 So 5 years @ $5.5M/year is what it's going to take to sign him? Galchenyuk will be our #1 centre in 2-3 years, then Eller, then probably Plekanec if he signs an extension. Not sure whe DD fits in. In a dream world, it'd be nice to have Lecavalier. But on paper, it makes no sense with the money he's probably looking for. I would ask how he feels about the possibility of playing wing in the later years of the contract. If he's open to the idea, then I seriously consider taking out the chequebook. Conversely, there's also something to be said for dealing with the glut, when it happens, via trade or other mechanisms. E.g., if in three years something has to give, you could trade Vinny or Pleks at the deadline. I'll admit to having a history of being a bit too enthusiastic about hypothetical player acquisitions or retentions, but I also have a sneaking admiration for teams like Philly or the Rangers that go full-bore after the player they want and sort out the implications later (notwithstanding the trouble they sometimes get into as a result). I'm really curious about whether Vancouver makes a big push for Vinny. They need him desperately, but they're capped out - but may be less so after they buyout Luongo, Ballard, or whoever - and most intriguingly, Lecavalier and Tortellini have a chequered history. A lot of potential intrigue there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 That kind of deal would look pretty bad in 3 or 4 years, maybe sooner. It's a rare forward that is worth that kind of cap hit past 35 years of age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 That kind of deal would look pretty bad in 3 or 4 years, maybe sooner. It's a rare forward that is worth that kind of cap hit past 35 years of age. And he's already missing 10 games a season regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaos Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Lecavalier will get $7 Million or more per season for atleast 3 to 4 years. Centres are the most sough after commodity in the NHL right now. Toronto easily has the cap room to make a dumbass move like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Lecavalier will get $7 Million or more per season for atleast 3 to 4 years. Centres are the most sough after commodity in the NHL right now. Toronto easily has the cap room to make a dumbass move like that. Leafs have $19M free but only 11 players on contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Lecavalier didn't waste much time quashing my theory of a one year deal. He'd like a deal that takes him into retirement. That's probably 5 years at a minimum. I am ok with that, 5 years at 5 mill and 3 years at 3 mill. More than that i cannot in good conscience pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbp Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Pheonix moves to Quebec and Quebec signs Vinny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Jeeez.. I'd actively be trying to package DD 25th and 1 of Markov, Weber or even Diaz to move up into the top 10 and sign Vinny in a heart beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Jeeez.. I'd actively be trying to package DD 25th and 1 of Markov, Weber or even Diaz to move up into the top 10 and sign Vinny in a heart beat. It can't really work that way though. Lecavalier can't sign until July 5th, or 5 days after the draft. There's always a verbal commitment I suppose but there probably isn't enough time to get something done before Sunday - I can't see him agreeing to terms until sometime inside the early July free agent negotiation window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I think he might go to Washington. -It's warm, which he likes. -He gets to play with Ovechkin and they badly need a center. -Oates and his system freeing up the offense. I really don't think it's in the cards for Montreal. I think Bergevin is set in his ways with his plan, and that doesn't include over paying on an aging asset. I do think he will do a deadline victory lap here in 4-5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I think he might go to Washington. -It's warm, which he likes. -He gets to play with Ovechkin and they badly need a center. -Oates and his system freeing up the offense. I really don't think it's in the cards for Montreal. I think Bergevin is set in his ways with his plan, and that doesn't include over paying on an aging asset. I do think he will do a deadline victory lap here in 4-5 years. Aren't the Caps letting Ribs go because of $$$ already ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Aren't the Caps letting Ribs go because of $$$ already ? They have a lot of potential buyouts, Brooks Laich and Jeff Schultz are good candidates. Maybe Jay Feaster will pick him up off waivers, to see if it's impossible for him to get fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Picking up Laich would actually be the first good move for Feaster. The flames aren't going to be anywhere near the playoffs, but Laich would be a good guy to have around kids during the year and then can be moved at the trade deadline next year for some picks. They have a lot of potential buyouts, Brooks Laich and Jeff Schultz are good candidates. Maybe Jay Feaster will pick him up off waivers, to see if it's impossible for him to get fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKross Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Lecavalier is better at 70% than most of names I've seen come forward. I put him in a category along with Ryder, he is top six and free, all you have to do is sign him. I suspect that amount and term will send MB away. If MB stays consistant to the plan and doesn't yield to the pressure, he will pass on Vinny like he did with Ryder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted June 28, 2013 Author Share Posted June 28, 2013 You have to try and get him.. Remember, the NHL is a business and bringing in Lecavalier would be huge for merchandise sales. I would order a jersey the day he signed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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