Habs30/31 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Price has been ridiculous many games this season but think about the OT 1-0 loss against Tampa and that type of situation would happen a lot more often without Pacioretty. Price 1 Pacs 2 Subban 3 Markov 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 offensively this team is no wear near as good as the 93' team. Right now have one guy who is a true threat offensively (MaxPac), in 93, we had Damphousse, Muller, Bellows and Leclair who had stepped up in the playoffs. They also had a Lebeau who was 30 goal scorer in the regular season and Depietro and Dionne who chipped in offensivley in the playoffs. There's potential for Galchenyuk, Gallaghar and Eller to step up, but in the playoffs, but we have enough 4th liners to put together 3 lines. Defensively, we have top end talent (Markov & Subban) than the 93 team, but as a whole that team was much better defensively. Well, I'm not trying to argue that this team is as good as the '93 team. What I will say is that there is a very similar discourse around the two teams. (Even the late-season swoon is similar, as is the concomitant claim that the swooning team is somehow the 'real' team, while the team that played from October to February somehow isn't). It's easy to forget how many fans in 1993 also took the view that our team had absolutely 'no chance' against offensively-stacked teams like the Nordiques or the Penguins - we were even underdogs against the Sabres that year, because they had Mogilny and Lafontaine - and that we were not 'real' contenders despite having competed for first place overall for almost the entire season. One big difference is that our goalie in '93 had a sub-par regular season, so there wasn't the same 'we'd be nothing without Roy' attitude; that didn't kick in until the playoffs. The goalie is part of the team. And I disagree with the double-standard according to which teams that are highly reliant on a single position player (Chara, Ovechkin) don't come in for the same kind of criticism as teams that are highly reliant on their goalie. At day's end, though, either type of team can come away with a W. Now, I hear what critics of this particular team are saying. They're not entirely off-base, but we should recall that this core reached the semi-finals last year despite having all the same weaknesses. (In fact, we are stronger at the crucial D position now). Today's NHL is marked by considerable parity and most teams have flaws. We have the best goalie. If a critical mass of our forwards can get hot at the right time, and our D plays as it should, we will be hard to beat. Sure, I'd rather be the Chicago Blackhawks. But it doesn't follow that because we are not the Chicago Blackhawks, we have no chance at all, or that we suck eggs. Cautious optimism is the appropriate attitude toward the Habs heading into these playoffs, it seems to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Cautious optimism? Fork let's go kick some a$$. But a good read CC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Cautious optimism? Fork let's go kick some a$$. But a good read CC Well, I am cautiously optimistic we can go kick some a$$! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Hey like i said a dozen times , nothing wrong with being under dogs..........and we are underdogs. I'm cool with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 'W' #42 today and all is well for Price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 ...and since Det can't catch us, do we sit him thurs and sat and risk (somewhat) the division crown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Play him against Detroit, play Tokarski against Toronto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Agree yes that is what will happen, avoid any issue with Price being hurt and can rest him, for one last meaningless game of year vs Leafs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I think Carey would like to have the record, also he wants to play not sit on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 20 of 20 TSN analysts picked Price #1 for the Hart. Ovechkin took second place in 19 of 20 votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuternoga Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I think Carey would like to have the record, also he wants to play not sit on the bench. IMO he's the type of player that if he plays a lot of the better he plays. Breaks make him weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 IMO he's the type of player that if he plays a lot of the better he plays. Breaks make him weak. Tend to agree with that. As far as the record goes. About 8 of Prices 42 wins would have been ties in the day Dryden and Plante reached 42. I think Carey has 34 wins (without extra time and shoot outs) Doug would know the exact number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Play him against Detroit, play Tokarski against Toronto. I like that idea. Although if I were making the decision I would put him in against Detroit to try to get win 43. And if he gets it, sit him against Toronto, if he doesn't then he plays against Toronto. I don't believe he needs that much rest, as there will be a small break before the playoffs start. And if he got injured that last game that I put him in for, I would jump off of a tall building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Not a chance he will dress vs Leafs and why would you dress him? Just isn't 'smart' no matter what records are at stake. Goalie's don't need a rest, they are the most taxed of all players arnt they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Not a chance he will dress vs Leafs and why would you dress him? Just isn't 'smart' no matter what records are at stake. Goalie's don't need a rest, they are the most taxed of all players arnt they? I wouldn't say there is no chance he dresses against the Leafs. I agree a record should be secondary to any possible post season success, but there will be 4 or 5 days off before the playoffs start and Price is used to a heavy workload. In my opinion, the main argument for keeping him out is to prevent an injury from happening, and to a lesser extent, to give Tokarski a game in case they need him at some point down the road. That being said, I actually do think Tokarski gets the Leaf game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 Too bad the games weren't swapped thurs for sat..I'd play Price at home vs Det on the sat night and Tokarski in Tor thurs. I agree about the time off Will, there will be enough time off before playoffs. But, the games are home thurs and away sat..that may be too much time off, don't want ring rust to set in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Tend to agree with that. As far as the record goes. About 8 of Prices 42 wins would have been ties in the day Dryden and Plante reached 42. I think Carey has 34 wins (without extra time and shoot outs) Doug would know the exact number. They don't ask how they just ask how many. 42 it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 They don't ask how they just ask how many. 42 it is. That is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 If I were MT, in this case, I would just ask Price what he wants to do, he didn't look real happy on the bench last Tokarski start. Play him if he wants to play, simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Remember that the 1993 team was considered offensively weak at the time, too. 3 goals/game was bottom of the league back then, though. the fact that the habs had no 100 point guy and only two 90 point guys had people saying we didn't have the offensive talent to go anywhere. The league has changed a lot since then. Relative to the rest of the league, our offense was the same then as it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 We got a few breaks that year too, of course the overtime magic, but Islanders weren't a match for us, nor was Buffalo really, although favored by some critics. Penguins got knocked out early that year, and our luck was running good, let's hope more of the same for this year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Quebec in the first round was a toughest opponent in 93. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revvvrob Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Price sets record for Habs goalies for wins with 43 ... what is the NHL record? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Price sets record for Habs goalies for wins with 43 ... what is the NHL record?48. The best in a non shootout era was parent with 47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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