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[Habs30/31]

Yes same as in Carolina, who couldn't score at all and paid one Russian huge bucks...but had him eating hot dogs all season instead of actually playing, then they break the bank just to rid themselves of him.

And you are correct Flynn isn't like him, Sabre coach was pissed Flynn was basically given away to Habs last year, in their McDavid push.

Carolina had him eating hot dogs. MT has him playing with Chucky and Eller. Gee thanks coach.

[Habs30/31]

Now let's put some thought into this, when Semin was on the ice Galchenyuk and Elller looked great. Have we heard from that line lately? NO they are useless right now. Put Semin back on that line. I know Le Genius is a defence first coach, I get it but as we proved in spades last year YOU HAVE TO HAVE OFFENCE. Semin got 9 games, REALLY?

that is absolute BS. Give him some time, show some faith, NO Le Genius made up his mind before Semin ever got here. Just when I think he (Le Genius) is smartening up he pulls shite like this. The other day he said the coaches challenge was a group decision, I thought wow that is really an improvement is how he handles things. Put Semin back in.

Semin was better than i thought he would be. But MT always needs somebody to yank in and outta the line up. White is gone. NB has made the team. Tiny has not been in. Semin gets the role. ha!

[DON]

Maybe all the Semin-lovers should start a petition and forward it to Bergy, might get Semin reinserted into lineup?

[Habs30/31]

Dont think there is a semin lover on the planet.

[Commandant]

Dont think there is a semin lover on the planet.

All these years, pornstars and prostitutes have been lying.

[habs rule]

Maybe all the Semin-lovers should start a petition and forward it to Bergy, might get Semin reinserted into lineup?

I think maybe you should insert something some where. OK just kidding Don

All these years, pornstars and prostitutes have been lying.

Can that be true?

Dont think there is a semin lover on the planet.

I don't love the guy but I think he is getting a raw deal. New start means NEW START.

[Guest Stogey24]

Now let's put some thought into this, when Semin was on the ice Galchenyuk and Elller looked great. Have we heard from that line lately? NO they are useless right now. Put Semin back on that line. I know Le Genius is a defence first coach, I get it but as we proved in spades last year YOU HAVE TO HAVE OFFENCE. Semin got 9 games, REALLY?

that is absolute BS. Give him some time, show some faith, NO Le Genius made up his mind before Semin ever got here. Just when I think he (Le Genius) is smartening up he pulls shite like this. The other day he said the coaches challenge was a group decision, I thought wow that is really an improvement is how he handles things. Put Semin back in.

Exactly, Therrien wanted no part of Semin as soon as he signed

[DON]

Don't worry he will get back-in the line-up sometime.

Another loss or two would likely do it.

[Habs30/31]

Exactly, Therrien wanted no part of Semin as soon as he signed

You may be right about that

Don't worry he will get back-in the line-up sometime.

Another loss or two would likely do it.

He wont be playing with DD that is for sure.

[Machine of Loving Grace]

Coach's Challenge was a group decision. The feed showed Lacroix telling Therrien it was a good goal. They talked about it on the English broadcast.

My whole thing is that Flynn has been the 12th best forward for the last few games and I want him out for a few games. See what Semin does with some time off.

[xXx..CK..xXx]

Bit of an interesting topic these past few pages because on one hand you have those who talk about dressing the best team possible in regards to dismissing Tinordi on defense and then you have those who want Semin either in or out of the lineup on forward.

Since I agree that we should indeed be a team who dresses the best possible squad, I guess the question then becomes the obvious one. Is our lineup better with Semin in it or not? I'm guessing Therrien saw some terrible things from Semin specifically in our losses out West and if that's the case I can agree with him being the player to come out in order to let Byron get a shot. However, is our team better with Semin in the lineup in the long run? There's no doubt in my mind.

It's one thing to scratch a player for not playing up to their potential or whatever but it does not change the fact that his 80% is honestly more productive than some other player's 100%. His natural skill is something that other players just don't have. Natural skill > hard work when it comes to players in the top 6. I'm not proud of it, but that's just the way it is. I'm not an extremist or anything and don't think he's any type of saviour but I definitely agree that he hasn't even been given a chance.

These types of things can really be a self-fulfilling prophecy as well. "I don't expect anything from him so he won't be given a chance. See, he didn't do anything. (because he wasn't given a chance)" Look at Weise in Montreal compared to Vancouver.

All of this is very short-sided since he will be given another shot obviously, but it's not the easiest situation to be successful in when you know your leash is so tight. In that regard, I agree that he needs more than 10 more games to be given a fair shake.

[Guest Stogey24]

Bit of an interesting topic these past few pages because on one hand you have those who talk about dressing the best team possible in regards to dismissing Tinordi on defense and then you have those who want Semin either in or out of the lineup on forward.

Since I agree that we should indeed be a team who dresses the best possible squad, I guess the question then becomes the obvious one. Is our lineup better with Semin in it or not? I'm guessing Therrien saw some terrible things from Semin specifically in our losses out West and if that's the case I can agree with him being the player to come out in order to let Byron get a shot. However, is our team better with Semin in the lineup in the long run? There's no doubt in my mind.

It's one thing to scratch a player for not playing up to their potential or whatever but it does not change the fact that his 80% is honestly more productive than some other player's 100%. His natural skill is something that other players just don't have. Natural skill > hard work when it comes to players in the top 6. I'm not proud of it, but that's just the way it is. I'm not an extremist or anything and don't think he's any type of saviour but I definitely agree that he hasn't even been given a chance.

These types of things can really be a self-fulfilling prophecy as well. "I don't expect anything from him so he won't be given a chance. See, he didn't do anything. (because he wasn't given a chance)" Look at Weise in Montreal compared to Vancouver.

Good post

[Commandant]

Bit of an interesting topic these past few pages because on one hand you have those who talk about dressing the best team possible in regards to dismissing Tinordi on defense and then you have those who want Semin either in or out of the lineup on forward.

Since I agree that we should indeed be a team who dresses the best possible squad, I guess the question then becomes the obvious one. Is our lineup better with Semin in it or not? I'm guessing Therrien saw some terrible things from Semin specifically in our losses out West and if that's the case I can agree with him being the player to come out in order to let Byron get a shot. However, is our team better with Semin in the lineup in the long run? There's no doubt in my mind.

It's one thing to scratch a player for not playing up to their potential or whatever but it does not change the fact that his 80% is honestly more productive than some other player's 100%. His natural skill is something that other players just don't have. Natural skill > hard work when it comes to players in the top 6. I'm not proud of it, but that's just the way it is. I'm not an extremist or anything and don't think he's any type of saviour but I definitely agree that he hasn't even been given a chance.

These types of things can really be a self-fulfilling prophecy as well. "I don't expect anything from him. I won't give him a chance. See, he didn't do anything. (because he wasn't given a chance). Look at Weise in Montreal compared to Vancouver.

The biggest issue with Semin... one many of us identified weeks ago... and one Therrien is talking about now is speed.

Is he skilled, yes, he has a great shot and great hands, but what good is that skill if he can't keep up with his linemates, and if he doesn't have enough speed to beat the guys who are covering him.

I agree he should get a shot... and I'd like to see him produce... but I don't have high hopes as he seems to have lost a few steps (And he was never fast).

I'm not even sure its an effort thing, I see him working.... i just see a guy who can't skate.

[hab29RETIRED]

I think he said the coaches challenge was a group decision to take heat of himself.

Now let's put some thought into this, when Semin was on the ice Galchenyuk and Elller looked great. Have we heard from that line lately? NO they are useless right now. Put Semin back on that line. I know Le Genius is a defence first coach, I get it but as we proved in spades last year YOU HAVE TO HAVE OFFENCE. Semin got 9 games, REALLY?

that is absolute BS. Give him some time, show some faith, NO Le Genius made up his mind before Semin ever got here. Just when I think he (Le Genius) is smartening up he pulls shite like this. The other day he said the coaches challenge was a group decision, I thought wow that is really an improvement is how he handles things. Put Semin back in.

[Machine of Loving Grace]

Therrien talked about not liking to do a coaches challenge in fear of losing a time out. Lacroix talked him into it. He called it a group decision to take responsibility.

At this point Semin should go back in just to give Chuck and Eller a spark. If Semin's speed costs us a game then pull him. Right now we need to get Chuck going.

[Habs30/31]

Therrien talked about not liking to do a coaches challenge in fear of losing a time out. Lacroix talked him into it. He called it a group decision to take responsibility.

At this point Semin should go back in just to give Chuck and Eller a spark. If Semin's speed costs us a game then pull him. Right now we need to get Chuck going.

"Lacroix talked him into it". Coach made sure everyone knew that. ha! The ego.

[Commandant]

I think he said the coaches challenge was a group decision to take heat of himself.

Bullshit

If you watched the English broadcast it was clear that Lacroix whispered in his ear and he challenged immediately after.

Therrien has the team playing well so we cant attack him in the way we normally do, so now we are just making stuff up about his challenge.

[Habs30/31]

Bullshit

If you watched the English broadcast it was clear that Lacroix whispered in his ear and he challenged immediately after.

Therrien has the team playing well so we cant attack him in the way we normally do, so now we are just making stuff up about his challenge.

Yes but that's ok, he has you coming to his defense every single time. :thumbs_up: Move over Scotty Bowman

[dlbalr]

Yes but that's ok, he has you coming to his defense every single time. :thumbs_up: Move over Scotty Bowman

Then there are those who seek to criticize practically his every move...

As for an actual rumour, it was reported earlier this week that the Habs had three scouts watching STL-LA. Apparently (I didn't hear this first hand) Pierre McGuire mentioned during the CHI/STL game on Wednesday that he thinks 'something could be percolating'. Now, he could have been talking about a coffee he ordered for the intermission but rather than beat continuing to beat a dead horse in terms of the Therrien challenge, it may be more fun to speculate about a possible trade instead.

[Habs30/31]

Then there are those who seek to criticize practically his every move...

As for an actual rumour, it was reported earlier this week that the Habs had three scouts watching STL-LA. Apparently (I didn't hear this first hand) Pierre McGuire mentioned during the CHI/STL game on Wednesday that he thinks 'something could be percolating'. Now, he could have been talking about a coffee he ordered for the intermission but rather than beat continuing to beat a dead horse in terms of the Therrien challenge, it may be more fun to speculate about a possible trade instead.

In case that is a shot ! lol. I have publicly credited MT for

1. Chucky at center.

2 DD third line.

3 Not changing the lines every game.

So as you see, when he does what I tell him to do. I give credit where credit is due. He's getting better.

But the challenge was a bad one. Everyone at home, in the press box, video booth and watching on the big screen knew the refs got the call right. Coaches job to know it too. (when its that obvious) Putting it on the assistant? Come on.

[habs rule]

In case that is a shot ! lol. I have publicly credited MT for

1. Chucky at center.

2 DD third line.

3 Not changing the lines every game.

So as you see, when he does what I tell him to do. I give credit where credit is due. He's getting better.

But the challenge was a bad one. Everyone at home, in the press box, video booth and watching on the big screen knew the refs got the call right. Coaches job to know it too. (when its that obvious) Putting it on the assistant? Come on.

I am as big a critic of Le Genius as there is but I don't fault him on the challenge. He has spotters up high who can see better than he can. They said challenge, he did, what is amazing is he took the fall, he did not throw one of his coaches under the bus. That I like. Put Semin back in get Chucky going again. I don't care how slow Semin is, and he ain't going to get any faster, he has the best hands on the team. Use him for crying out loud. Find a way. Be a coach.

[Habs30/31]

I am as big a critic of Le Genius as there is but I don't fault him on the challenge. He has spotters up high who can see better than he can. They said challenge, he did, what is amazing is he took the fall, he did not throw one of his coaches under the bus. That I like. Put Semin back in get Chucky going again. I don't care how slow Semin is, and he ain't going to get any faster, he has the best hands on the team. Use him for crying out loud. Find a way. Be a coach.

A coaches challenge, ......is on the coach.

[JoeLassister]

Then there are those who seek to criticize practically his every move...

As for an actual rumour, it was reported earlier this week that the Habs had three scouts watching STL-LA. Apparently (I didn't hear this first hand) Pierre McGuire mentioned during the CHI/STL game on Wednesday that he thinks 'something could be percolating'. Now, he could have been talking about a coffee he ordered for the intermission but rather than beat continuing to beat a dead horse in terms of the Therrien challenge, it may be more fun to speculate about a possible trade instead.

I Wonder who'd be the target. I don't really want to see anything else than a top 6 RW coming our way.

It's clearly not Tarasenko or Toffoli.

Dustin Brown ?!?

[dlbalr]

I Wonder who'd be the target. I don't really want to see anything else than a top 6 RW coming our way.

It's clearly not Tarasenko or Toffoli.

Dustin Brown ?!?

I can't find a great fit either which makes this more intriguing to me for some reason. Off LA, I could see the Habs liking someone like Trevor Lewis but he doesn't really fit that top six need. Tanner Pearson might but I don't think the Kings aren't going to want to part with him. From St. Louis, perhaps Dmitrij Jaskin would be a target? He has shown flashes of top six ability but he's inconsistent and the Blues have a lot of quality forwards so he really hasn't played much in a scoring role. If Montreal's management thinks he can take that next step, I could see Jaskin being someone they'd follow for a while.

Brown's contract is ugly, four years (plus this one) at just under $6 M per. I can't see the Habs (or any team) wanting to take that on.

[Machine of Loving Grace]

Brown is a do not touch. Was overrated when he got the deal.

A great fit for Galchenyuk is Silfverberg in Anaheim. Three more years and hasn't played up to his potential but he just turned 25 (24 is the Bergevin sweet spot), shoots right and had 39 points last year.