Kaboom Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Price has had two great seasons. In fact Price's stats last year are better then Halak's stats in his last season in Montreal and Price's stats this year are better then Halak's last year. This year is scewed because Price has no defense and Halak has Hitchcock, remember how bad Halak was to start the season? (Note that Halak isn't even St Louis starter cause Elliot has out played him all season). Halak has yet to play 60 games. He isn't a proven starter. Price played more games last year then Schneider has in his career... he is far from proven, good as the games he has played have been... its a huge gamble to trade a top pick, he is on a incredible team, who knows if those numbers would be different without guys like Bieksa and Kestler out there. .934% and 2.11. Those are Price's playoff stats in last year's 7 games against Boston. Halak's in his run were... .923% and 2.55 in 18 games. He is proven. Kaboom your opinion is biased and not constructive. And why are you talking about halak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbp Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 And why are you talking about halak? Because you have praised Halak before and to make you realize how good Price is I was putting it into a comparison you would easily understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaboom Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Price has had two great seasons. In fact Price's stats last year are better then Halak's stats in his last season in Montreal and Price's stats this year are better then Halak's last year. This year is scewed because Price has no defense and Halak has Hitchcock, remember how bad Halak was to start the season? (Note that Halak isn't even St Louis starter cause Elliot has out played him all season). Halak has yet to play 60 games. He isn't a proven starter. Price played more games last year then Schneider has in his career... he is far from proven, good as the games he has played have been... its a huge gamble to trade a top pick, he is on a incredible team, who knows if those numbers would be different without guys like Bieksa and Kestler out there. .934% and 2.11. Those are Price's playoff stats in last year's 7 games against Boston. Halak's in his run were... .923% and 2.55 in 18 games. He is proven. Kaboom your opinion is biased and not constructive. Next time i will ask you what my opinion is homer. so u r comparing 7 games to 18? Did you send price a fruit basket and a thinking of you card? I made valid points and the backup canuck is pushing for a number one job there and there number one is better then ours!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbp Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Next time i will ask you what my opinion is homer. so u r comparing 7 games to 18? Did you send price a fruit basket and a thinking of you card? I made valid points and the backup canuck is pushing for a number one job there and there number one is better then ours!!! You didn't make valid points about Price. You said he hadn't proved himself. Where is that evidence? Simmer there, no need to get personal haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForumGhost Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Christ, can we not start this again? Every team involved in our tanking campaign is playing tonight. I think after tonight, we will have a pretty good idea of where we will pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Really need the loss tonight Need points from Leafs Isles Minny And Edmonton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 Magic Numbers (pts lost by Habs + Pts gained by opponent) Anaheim 1pt Carolina 1pt Toronto 1pt Minny 1pt Isles 3pts* Edmonton 6 pts So if we lose tonight, even in OT, we can clinch no worse than 4th overall. A regulation loss is better.*Magic Number to the Isles is 2pts if our wins is via shootout instead of ROW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Magic Numbers (pts lost by Habs + Pts gained by opponent) Anaheim 1pt Carolina 1pt Toronto 1pt Minny 1pt Isles 3pts* Edmonton 6 pts So if we lose tonight, even in OT, we can clinch no worse than 4th overall. A regulation loss is better.*Magic Number to the Isles is 2pts if our wins is via shootout instead of ROW. Maybe picking #5 is lucky for Habs anyways! And with 67-51-72 on fire, it could be a battle to stay in top 5? And at least Ducks or Oilers will get 2 points tonight, be nice to see OT game happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbp Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Maybe picking #5 is lucky for Habs anyways! And with 67-51-72 on fire, it could be a battle to stay in top 5? And at least Ducks or Oilers will get 2 points tonight, be nice to see OT game happen. Lets hope for a Oil win in OT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Again just FYI: For those who are interested in seeing Draft Prospect video clips, this website has many. http://www.hockeyprospect.tv/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 6, 2012 Author Share Posted April 6, 2012 Assuming the Oilers don't pass us... our lottery odds are 14.2% chance of picking 1st... 56.1% chance of picking 3rd... 29.7% chance of picking 4th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForumGhost Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 If my math is correct, we can no longer pick worse than 4th (we pick 3rd barring draft lottery change). The only way we can have a chance to pick 2nd is if Edmonton gets at least 1 point tonight. Tied at 0 with the Ducks. Ducks starting their back up who has only played 3 this year... Go Oilers! EDIT: Gagne scores (who says they need a center?). 1-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zumpano21 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 If we choose Grigorenko, do Roy's chances of joining the organization improve? I guess the reverse order applies as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Oilers pick up loser point. Oil must win last game and Habs must lose in regulation in order to get a guarantee top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakiqc Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Oilers pick up loser point. Oil must win last game and Habs must lose in regulation in order to get a guarantee top 3. It's not very probable to happen. Looks like the Habs will finish 28th overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 It's not very probable to happen. Looks like the Habs will finish 28th overall. Improbable? Why? All Edmonton has to do is beat the Canucks in Vancouver... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmethead Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Improbable? Why? All Edmonton has to do is beat the Canucks in Vancouver... Is the game of any importance to Vancouver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Is the game of any importance to Vancouver? They'll be fighting for the President's Trophy potentially. How important that is to the organization I'm not sure but I wouldn't expect them to lay down for Edmonton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForumGhost Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Is there anyone who can say what the buzz is among analysts following Edmonton's draft? Do people suspect they will go for organizational needs (defense) first or BPA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 6, 2012 Author Share Posted April 6, 2012 Is there anyone who can say what the buzz is among analysts following Edmonton's draft? Do people suspect they will go for organizational needs (defense) first or BPA? Everything I hear is that they have dual needs, both Centre and Defence. For this reason they will go BPA. They don't have faith in Gagner as a Top 6 player and would like a centre with size to go with RNH. They also have a lot of defence prospects but no one they can look at as a surefire #1. So I think they'd like both, but they are going to have to make a choice. For that reason they will let Stu MacGregor (there head scout) tell them who is the best player out of Grigo, Galchenyuk, Dumba, Murray. If they get first overall, they'll go Yakupov just because he's so much better than everyone else. The only guy in the top 7 who I think they definetely won't touch is Forsberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 7, 2012 Author Share Posted April 7, 2012 Profile #2 from our site. http://lastwordonsports.com/2012/04/06/nhl-draft-prospect-profile-2-mikhail-grigorenko/ Expect 3 and 4 to be up before the lottery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 They'll be fighting for the President's Trophy potentially. How important that is to the organization I'm not sure but I wouldn't expect them to lay down for Edmonton. Home advantage for SC finals. They have to be thinking about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 7, 2012 Author Share Posted April 7, 2012 If the Rangers win today, they will clinch the president's trophy. They have the ROW tiebreak with Vancouver. If the Blues lose today (either regulation or OT), the Canucks will clinch 1st in the Western Conference. There is a chance the Canucks game could be meaningless to them by the time the Blues game ends (probably around 1st intermission of the Canucks/Oilers game). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy Ryder Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Profile #2 from our site. http://lastwordonspo...ail-grigorenko/ Expect 3 and 4 to be up before the lottery. Very good report on Grigo, i went ot the Remparts last night + 5 home games this year. Thingd about him to consider, he is still very young and raw. He does have the smarts yet and will grow into it. His lack of passion and competiveness would scare a lot of team away from him. Just to give an example he soon, lost something like 15 faceoffs last night. Forcing Roy to play others with more hunger. Not exactly what Habs need, he is Eller with a better shot. Thought one thing to consider, he makes his team win by his play reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 8, 2012 Author Share Posted April 8, 2012 Ryan Murray http://lastwordonsports.com/2012/04/07/nhl-draft-prospect-profile-3-ryan-murray/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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