sbhatt Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 46 minutes ago, Habopotamus said: I'm Surprised Dallas hasn't made a serious offer for him. Radulov and Pac had some solid chemistry. They already have an expensive top line goal-scoring LW locked up...Jamie Benn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 hours ago, sbhatt said: They already have an expensive top line goal-scoring LW locked up...Jamie Benn. Dallas is going hard still for Karlsson. Otherwise he would fit them well. They are weak on the left side after Benn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 47 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: Dallas is going hard still for Karlsson. Otherwise he would fit them well. They are weak on the left side after Benn. Their forward depth in general is pretty bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 30 minutes ago, Habopotamus said: Their forward depth in general is pretty bad They are top heavy because Nill thought he could rely on players to develop from the draft as depth. Janmark, Faksa, Shore, and Nichushkin were all supposed to be top six calibre players by now . Nichu might be now after coming back from Russia. Hanzal was a bad gamble though. Dallas for years got high grades on their drafts but the players haven't been panning out. Maybe this year going for a reach was a good attempt to change fortunes, especially since I have seen a bit of Dellandrea and think he was very underrated by scouts and draft lists. Then again Bitten is proof I tend to have a soft spot for Firebirds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 26 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: They are top heavy because Nill thought he could rely on players to develop from the draft as depth. Janmark, Faksa, Shore, and Nichushkin were all supposed to be top six calibre players by now . Nichu might be now after coming back from Russia. Hanzal was a bad gamble though. Dallas for years got high grades on their drafts but the players haven't been panning out. Maybe this year going for a reach was a good attempt to change fortunes, especially since I have seen a bit of Dellandrea and think he was very underrated by scouts and draft lists. Then again Bitten is proof I tend to have a soft spot for Firebirds. It will be interesting to see what happens with Seguin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 20 minutes ago, Habopotamus said: It will be interesting to see what happens with Seguin. Yeah, makes sense for him to stay since they love him and can afford him with Spezza's money freeing up for him but who knows. Maybe he pulls a Tavares and bolts based on his 9 year old pajamas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott462 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 34 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: Maybe he pulls a Tavares and bolts based on his 9 year old pajamas. Lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: They are top heavy because Nill thought he could rely on players to develop from the draft as depth. Janmark, Faksa, Shore, and Nichushkin were all supposed to be top six calibre players by now . Nichu might be now after coming back from Russia. Hanzal was a bad gamble though. Dallas for years got high grades on their drafts but the players haven't been panning out. Maybe this year going for a reach was a good attempt to change fortunes, especially since I have seen a bit of Dellandrea and think he was very underrated by scouts and draft lists. Then again Bitten is proof I tend to have a soft spot for Firebirds. I think Dallas may be interested in Pacioretty as an upgrade on Janmark. I think Janmark would fit nicely with the Canadiens, along with DAL's 1st rounder in 2019. I would ask for Bayreuther too is Pacioretty signs an extension with Dallas. I think that would be a good trade for both teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: I think Dallas may be interested in Pacioretty as an upgrade on Janmark. I think Janmark would fit nicely with the Canadiens, along with DAL's 1st rounder in 2019. I would ask for Bayreuther too is Pacioretty signs an extension with Dallas. I think that would be a good trade for both teams With extension I want Adam Mascherin. Pure sniper, hard to move despite size, has done some great work on his skating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 21 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: With extension I want Adam Mascherin. Pure sniper, hard to move despite size, has done some great work on his skating. Isn't that asking too much ? If Patches is really declining , I doubt we get as much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 I thought the Habs should have tried to trade for Mascherin from Florida prior to the draft. They probably could have had him for a song considering he wasn't going to sign with them. McCarron for Mascherin would have been a good deal for the Habs. As far as Pacioretty to Dallas, I like the ideal. I would try to move Pacioretty (with some salary retained if it gets a the Habs a better deal) and take Spezza back (again if it gets the Habs a better deal). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Mascherin would be great in a Habs jersey. === Thinking on another Pacioretty trade. How about trading him to Chicago for: 1st round in 2019 Ejdsell to replace Patches and Gustaffson to develop into our Top4 LD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 12 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: Isn't that asking too much ? If Patches is really declining , I doubt we get as much Is there any reason to think Max can snap back into form this season? -does he have a D-man like Subban to get him the puck? NOPE -does he have a gritty power FW like Radulov on his line to create openings for him? NOPE Unless he can rediscover that extra blast of speed to the outside which was nowhere to be found last season, I'd suspect we're in for another season that puts him closer to 20 goals than 30, or 40. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Domi is more of a playmaker. They could click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 24 minutes ago, BCHabnut said: Domi is more of a playmaker. They could click. I think Domi and Gallagher will be asked to prop-up Drouin I think the captain is stuck with Danault and Scherbak/(or any other suspect RW) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 30 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: I think Domi and Gallagher will be asked to prop-up Drouin I think the captain is stuck with Danault and Scherbak/(or any other suspect RW) Prop? Drouin is a much better player than Domi. Domi has a nice pass but that's about it compared to Drouin. But I do agree with the idea of Domi - Drouin - Gallagher, Gally really likes Domi so they will be a duo. It's not a bad line in theory. Drouin needs to get back to his weight as a Bolt. I would love if just once we see Drouin - Peca - Byron just to see a line as fast as the old Petrov - Koivu - Bure line from 1995. Pacioretty - Danault - x will certainly be a thing unless Armia steps up and shows he is more than just a once every four games player. He could be the new Weise if things go right. Scherbak could have stiff competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 23 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: Prop? Drouin is a much better player than Domi. Pacioretty - Danault - x Drouin needs players around him to make him better, like Pacioretty, he cannot carry his line Becsuse of Pacioretty's x-RW at this moment, I hope the media and fans give him a break instead of continuing to belittle him for just being a 30 goal scorer on a really bad team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Is there any reason to think Max can snap back into form this season? -does he have a D-man like Subban to get him the puck? NOPE -does he have a gritty power FW like Radulov on his line to create openings for him? NOPE Unless he can rediscover that extra blast of speed to the outside which was nowhere to be found last season, I'd suspect we're in for another season that puts him closer to 20 goals than 30, or 40. I feel the same way. Max is a guy that needs to be set up for the most part; he's not a guy who creates a lot of prime shooting opportunities on his own. It's best for both parties that he go somewhere that he will have a competent center and a smooth passing d-man before training camp begins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 32 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: Drouin needs players around him to make him better, like Pacioretty, he cannot carry his line Becsuse of Pacioretty's x-RW at this moment, I hope the media and fans give him a break instead of continuing to belittle him for just being a 30 goal scorer on a really bad team I agree that nobody should be belittling Max. I hate this obsession with scapegoating players. But the jury is still out on whether he remains a 30-goal scorer when he has no puck-moving D-men and the wingers being contemplated in this thread. I wouldn't be so sure about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 It’s funny how some say that Pacioretty has done all his work in the past without a legit number one centerman and then others say he needs “this or that” to produce. I expect 25-35 goals from him this year, and that’s fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 54 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: It’s funny how some say that Pacioretty has done all his work in the past without a legit number one centerman and then others say he needs “this or that” to produce. I expect 25-35 goals from him this year, and that’s fine. He hasn’t had a true number 1 centre, but until last year he always had an elite puck moving dman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 hour ago, hab29RETIRED said: He hasn’t had a true number 1 centre, but until last year he always had an elite puck moving dman. He's also usually had one reliable guy on his line and didn't this time. Plus the constant attempts to put him with Drouin when they had no chemistry likely killed his shots at coming out of cold streaks. I think they will try Patches - Danault - Armia Domi - Drouin - Gally Hudon - Peca - Lehkonen/Scherbak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 2 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: He hasn’t had a true number 1 centre, but until last year he always had an elite puck moving dman. Star studded line up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 59 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: He's also usually had one reliable guy on his line and didn't this time. Plus the constant attempts to put him with Drouin when they had no chemistry likely killed his shots at coming out of cold streaks. I think they will try Patches - Danault - Armia Domi - Drouin - Gally Hudon - Peca - Lehkonen/Scherbak Patches for the Selke! 'cause he is never winning the Richard trophy on that line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 22 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: Patches for the Selke! 'cause he is never winning the Richard trophy on that line If it was up to me I would be playing him with Peca and Scherbak, but I doubt that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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