hab29RETIRED Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Terrific signing at reasonable dollar amount and term to lock up a good asset at. None of the bullshit Gainey policies of don't negotiate during the year, or 1 year contracts until free agency. Compared to grabs, and Connelly in Toronto, he is a steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Terrific signing at reasonable dollar amount and term to lock up a good asset at. None if the bullshit Gainey, don't negotiate during the year or 1 year contracts until free agency. Compared to grabs, and Connelly in Toronto, he is a steal. How about Krejci and Fat Looch for 6 mil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankhab Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I'm not all that impressed. I know he's Patches fav centre, but it seems like a lot of money and term for an undersized, average skating pivot who is not great at faceoffs or defensive play. If he turns into the next Martin St Louis, I will gladly eat my shorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebo64 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Will you post pictures of eating your shorts when Desharnais continues with Montreal for the duration of his contract and remains a top 9 forward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 If he was Marty St. Louis, and 26 years old, he'd be getting 7 million a season, not 3.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I'm puzzled about where the Habs are going with their C line. Plek, DD, Eller, Galchenyuk + a 4th line C. Looks like they will turn Chucky into a winger if this signing happens to be real. If Galchenyuk takes the centre spot by playing better than Desharnais, then Desharnais will be traded. If he doesn't, then we have a 2nd line centre for 4 years at a good contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 If Galchenyuk takes the centre spot by playing better than Desharnais, then Desharnais will be traded. If he doesn't, then we have a 2nd line centre for 4 years at a good contract. I still think that at some point, DD should be put on the wing. The guy isn't big, but has excellent hockey sense and works hard. He doesn't have the speed of other small players like Fleury or St Louis, but he sees the ice well, is a great playmaker and plays bigger then Moen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 If Galchenyuk takes the centre spot by playing better than Desharnais, then Desharnais will be traded. Could happen as soon as game 1 of next season IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 What the signing does, and the options for the coming logjam at centre.http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/03/18/up-the-gut-the-canadiens-logjam-at-centre/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Our WWI piece about the deal, with a couple of mixed reviews in there: http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=3035 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 0 shot on goal in the playoffs so far.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Signs the contract and quits playing, wtf happened, he looked so good last year. This guy has fought so hard to make it to the nhl I can't believe it when I see him play now. He is friggin useless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I always worried he was a one year wonder, living off Cole and Pacs. I still don't get the signing as we need a bigger center, so why lock up DD when he doesn't fit. Gally is much better, but I am not sure how long a career he will have either. The abuse he gets will age that kid prematurely. The only good thing about DD is if he plays a bit better next year he will be tradeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Now, I'm not saying I think DD should be on the team going forward. However, there was a contract signing this summer that's being defended which we should take a bit of a look at. Tyler Bozak is 27 years old, only 6" 195lbs and has played 238 games. He has 53 goals and 81 assists for 134 points. Bozak was undrafted and made $1.5M last season. He was given a five year, $21M deal this season worth $4.2M per season. The re-signing of Bozak and signings of David Clarkson led to the buyout of Mikhail Grabovski. Bozak was given the contract primarily because Toronto felt they couldn't find any other centers for the same money and because Bozak is good friends with the best winger on the team, Phil Kessel. Bozak played all year on Kessel's line, scoring 12 goals and 16 assists for 28 points. He had a 52.6% faceoff percentage in the season, that dropping to 42.6% in the playoffs against Boston. He had only two points in seven games against Boston in the playoffs. The Toronto Maple Leafs are treating him as their top center despite having Nazem Kadri lead centers in scoring. David Desharnais is 26 years old and stands at only 5'7" 177lbs and has played 178 games. He has 34 goals and 77 assists for 111 points. Desharnais was undrafted and made $850,000 last season. He was given a four year, 14M deal worth $3.5M per season. Desharnais was struggling at the time of signing the contract and continued to struggle in the post-season. Desharnais is good friends with the best winger on the team, Max Pacioretty. Desharnais played all year on Pacioretty's line, scoring 10 goals and 18 assists for 28 points. He had a 50% faceoff percentage in the regular season, that dropping to 48.6% in the playoffs against Ottawa. He had only two points in five games against Ottawa in the playoffs. The Montreal Canadiens tried taking Desharnais off of Pacioretty's line in the playoffs and while they put him with the best winger, they treat Tomas Plekanec as the top center. Kind of funny when you think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Excellent comparison. Personally, I don't have a problem with DD as a player or his contract, my only concern is where he fits in with this group of players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blonde Demon Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I have no problem with smaller players as long as they play bigger than they are. (See Brendan Gallagher)He needs to get some bite in his game to balance out that size issue because larger d-man eat him up in the corners and along the boards. Say what you want about Briere, but for his smaller stature, he will stick his opponent if they try and take liberties.(Doug Gilmour esque). I really am not a big fan of stick work in hockey, but the odd jab will send a message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I also think people keep forgetting that DD has good numbers and would have been arbitration eligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I also think people keep forgetting that DD has good numbers and would have been arbitration eligible. We probably could have signed him to a shorter deal at his current cap number if we had waited till the offseason. As it is, the term looks like a liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 We probably could have signed him to a shorter deal at his current cap number if we had waited till the offseason. As it is, the term looks like a liability. So he becomes a UFA and we spend more or let him walk with nothing in return? I don't think that's a better option. For the numbers offensively, 3.5 isnt a bad number, and I think he's still tradeable if we want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 If Matt Stajan was tradeable, Desharnais certainly is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Yep DD can be traded and I do believe he will. That said I hope he starts the season off like a gang buster and scores like 10+ points in October. He can showcase himself on the first west coast road trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Desharnais's value will be through the roof if he puts up another 60 point season. OK, maybe not that high, but we could get a high quality piece for him. But then we wouldn't want to trade him, especially with the language issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zowpeb Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Desharnais's value will be through the roof if he puts up another 60 point season. OK, maybe not that high, but we could get a high quality piece for him. But then we wouldn't want to trade him, especially with the language issue. His value would not be significant. If he puts up 60 points he's still a physical, defensive and face off liability. He's the prototypical 2nd line center on an 8th to 10th seeded team. He will not command a high quality piece in the trade market. Sorry to burst the bubble. You get high quality prospects from top seeded teams looking to bolster their clubs at deadlines...what top seeded club would think Desharnais represents that? If you want a top player from a club selling off at the deadline then you have salary cap concerns and the fact said player is likely better then DD (or of the same mediocrity and possibly with a higher cap hit). If you deal a guy like DD it will be for an equally uninspiring player...but one that likely fills a more pressing void at that time unless you want a player with a bad contract (not advisable...ahem...see: Gomez, Scott) or you package DD with other pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 His value would not be significant. If he puts up 60 points he's still a physical, defensive and face off liability. He's the prototypical 2nd line center on an 8th to 10th seeded team. He will not command a high quality piece in the trade market. Sorry to burst the bubble. You get high quality prospects from top seeded teams looking to bolster their clubs at deadlines...what top seeded club would think Desharnais represents that? If you want a top player from a club selling off at the deadline then you have salary cap concerns and the fact said player is likely better then DD (or of the same mediocrity and possibly with a higher cap hit). If you deal a guy like DD it will be for an equally uninspiring player...but one that likely fills a more pressing void at that time unless you want a player with a bad contract (not advisable...ahem...see: Gomez, Scott) or you package DD with other pieces. That's the thing if Desharnais wqs to get traded. It would be a package deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 A 60 point player signed at 3.5 million definitely has value on the trade market, plenty of teams lack scoring depth. Plus he's in his prime and could reasonably be expected to improve on his deficiencies. I still think that he'll bounce back to justify his contract, though I agree that he might not have a place on a contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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