Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, DON said: What CC said. They went "best player available" and pick really had little (or nothing) to do with current roster. Best player available is the way to go. By the time Guhle is NHL ready (3 years?) who knows what the Habs biggest need will be. As has been mentioned before, if you are over stocked in 1 position then you can always trade and there will always be a market for good young defenceman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, DON said: What CC said. They went "best player available" and pick really had little (or nothing) to do with current roster. The issue for many is that the BPA at #16 is fairly grey ... at #16 the difference between a handful of players is minimal ... so they chose the "safest" pick OR went to their default preference (defence) ... like what I read about the kid but would have preferred a swing for the fences with offence (e.g., Reichel, Mercer, Lapierre, Zary, Perrault, Bourque). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, GHT120 said: The issue for many is that the BPA at #16 is fairly grey ... at #16 the difference between a handful of players is minimal ... so they chose the "safest" pick OR went to their default preference (defence) ... like what I read about the kid but would have preferred a swing for the fences with offence (e.g., Reichel, Mercer, Lapierre, Zary, Perrault, Bourque). Only time will tell, if got another Tinordi-Beaulieu or a McDonagh-lite and whether any of the forwards you noted end up all-stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Best player available is the way to go. By the time Guhle is NHL ready (3 years?) who knows what the Habs biggest need will be. As has been mentioned before, if you are over stocked in 1 position then you can always trade and there will always be a market for good young defenceman. And overstocked on paper, doesnt mean any of Brook, Struble, Harris, Juulsen, or Fleury will actually become a NHL regular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, DON said: Only time will tell, if got another Tinordi-Beaulieu or a McDonagh-lite and whether any of the forwards you noted end up all-stars. Totally agree ... but as that is true for all of them just preferred that MB roll the dice on a goal-scorer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, GHT120 said: Totally agree ... but as that is true for all of them just preferred that MB roll the dice on a goal-scorer Me as well would of 'preferred' seeing Mercer, Lapierre or the like, but Mackenzie scout's poll had Guhle at 14, Commandant had him at 12, so the d-man wasnt a reach at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, DON said: And overstocked on paper, doesnt mean any of Brook, Struble, Harris, Juulsen, or Fleury will actually become a NHL regular. Of course not, overstocked means enough of these guys develop to provide the Habs with a surplus of good young defenceman. And if they don't develop then Guhle may end up looking like a great pick that fills a need. There are no guarantees here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, DON said: Me as well would of 'preferred' seeing Mercer, Lapierre or the like, but Mackenzie scout's poll had Guhle at 14, Commandant had him at 12, so the d-man wasnt a reach at all. Wasn't suggesting it was a reach ... just that at that stage of the draft, #14 through #22 are not a pure hierarchal ordering and reflect personal subjectivity as much as actual differentiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Can't help but look at the guys we would have got at #9, Rossi or Perfetti, and think how excited Tony Maranaro sauce would have been. A defensive defenseman isn't the most exciting 1st round pick, but hopefully he was the BPA and becomes a solid NHLer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Neech said: Can't help but look at the guys we would have got at #9, Rossi or Perfetti, and think how excited Tony Maranaro sauce would have been. A defensive defenseman isn't the most exciting 1st round pick, but hopefully he was the BPA and becomes a solid NHLer. I think his stats suggest that he is more than just a defensive defenceman although his defence and physical play seems to be his strong suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs#4,9,10,33 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Can’t complain on best player available. Our D is set for 10 years now, when we look at our veterans D core ( top four) finishing nicely 4/5 years and then a bunch of Young top D prospects coming into there own by then, ( passing of the torch) let’s say. I’m assuming it’s a no brainer, all three 2nd rounds picks will be forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 37 minutes ago, Neech said: Can't help but look at the guys we would have got at #9, Rossi or Perfetti, and think how excited Tony Maranaro sauce would have been. A defensive defenseman isn't the most exciting 1st round pick, but hopefully he was the BPA and becomes a solid NHLer. He had 40 points last year in a shortened season. Why is he a defensive defenceman? He has two way skills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, habs#4,9,10,33 said: Can’t complain on best player available. Our D is set for 10 years now, when we look at our veterans D core ( top four) finishing nicely 4/5 years and then a bunch of Young top D prospects coming into there own by then, ( passing of the torch) let’s say. I’m assuming it’s a no brainer, all three 2nd rounds picks will be forwards. We need RHD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, habs#4,9,10,33 said: I’m assuming it’s a no brainer, all three 2nd rounds picks will be forwards. When 2nd/3rd round is where you should look to pick defensive d-men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs#4,9,10,33 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) I know it’s way too early to compare... Are we looking at a Chara 2.0 who can skate better for the modern game? He’s got the size, strength, defensively solid, mean streak and leadership quality’s just saying . Edited October 7, 2020 by habs#4,9,10,33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, habs#4,9,10,33 said: Can’t complain on best player available. Our D is set for 10 years now, when we look at our veterans D core ( top four) finishing nicely 4/5 years and then a bunch of Young top D prospects coming into there own by then, ( passing of the torch) let’s say. Oh. Didn't know one of Romanov, Norlinder or Guhle already turned into a legit 1st pair LD. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs#4,9,10,33 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, JoeLassister said: Oh. Didn't know one of Romanov, Norlinder or Guhle already turned into a legit 1st pair LD. My bad. They haven’t and yes your right, no guarantees here .. discussion is a bunch of top defenceman prospects we’ve gathered up nicely... We are now probably rated top 1 or 2 in the league is this department. for anyone who knows me personally I’m a 1/2 cup empty guy, but I’m feeling 1/2 cup full today. I want to win a Stanley cup soon! Living in Edmonton and winning the cup before Mcdavid, wound be amazing for Hab fans in E town Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, habs#4,9,10,33 said: They haven’t and yes your right, no guarantees here .. discussion is a bunch of top defenceman prospects we’ve gathered up nicely... We are now probably rated top 1 or 2 in the league is this department. for anyone who knows me personally I’m a 1/2 cup empty guy, but I’m feeling 1/2 cup full today. I want to win a Stanley cup soon! Living in Edmonton and winning the cup before Mcdavid, wound be amazing for Hab fans in E town It would be amazing indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyrealist Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 57 minutes ago, Commandant said: He had 40 points last year in a shortened season. Why is he a defensive defenceman? He has two way skills Thank you for pointing this out. Some posters so quick to throw shade without looking at the numbers. all accounts are he is growing into offensive role and has been trending that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyrealist Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Neech said: Can't help but look at the guys we would have got at #9, Rossi or Perfetti, and think how excited Tony Maranaro sauce would have been. A defensive defenseman isn't the most exciting 1st round pick, but hopefully he was the BPA and becomes a solid NHLer. who cares? Why you dwelling on what ifs? Not enough to bitch about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 3 hours ago, hockeyrealist said: who cares? Why you dwelling on what ifs? Not enough to bitch about? You're the one bitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I like the pick, i was thinking they would land one of Mercer or Guhle if they were on the board. I like his skill set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 10 hours ago, Commandant said: We need RHD Play style and skill set wise how does Guhle compare with Juulsen? they seem very comparable to me, at least with my limited knowledge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Meller93 said: Play style and skill set wise how does Guhle compare with Juulsen? they seem very comparable to me, at least with my limited knowledge I was thinking exactly the same 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 I think Guhle has a bit more physicality and offence than Juulsen. He's more like a mix of Fleury and Juulsen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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