hab29RETIRED Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 33 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: Great Deal. I don’t mean to sound harsh, but to those who are saying the deal is too long, well jeez, looks like we’re not allowed to have Habs lifers around here anymore. Gallagher can retire a Hab for all I care. You can’t have as many in the cap world and the team getting younger. besides, lafleur, savard. Robinson, shutt, lapointe, all hall of gamers from the 70’s dynasties. None of them retired as a hab. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Very happy to read that he is signed. I would have hated to lose him. Once we have Danault signed we will have the core of the team to contend for the cup with Price and Weber. 1 hour ago, Chris said: Danault is better than Drouin period, Drouin contract is one of the worst on the team period, regardless of what people think he will become, he is a floater and non factor I expect Drouin to do better now that we can count on Toffoli, Gallagher, Tatar and even Anderson to be counted to score more than him. He should have less coverage from other teams and should meet expectations of abount 25 g/season. He is oOverpaid for being the token local guy, but a decent middle 6 winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 58 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Of course we can have lifers, but not to the detriment to the team. You can't have a bunch of old guys with big contracts hanging on and enjoying their wonder years while younger guys need to get paid. In a non salary cap world it wouldn't matter. Every team has contracts that seem a year or two too long. You would pay more AAV if you wanted a 3 year or 4 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Commandant said: Every team has contracts that seem a year or two too long. You would pay more AAV if you wanted a 3 year or 4 year deal. True, every team does, you just can't have too many. I agree that a shorter deal would likely have had a higher AAV. I am very glad Gally is sticking around, I was just worried that the contract would have been way too long (ie. 8 years) or that no contract would have been signed and it would have been a distraction this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link67 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Love it, The cap hit is good, there is some risk in the term of course, but I love the player, love what he brings, the intangibles, the 5 on 5 stats, the advanced stats, the train engine mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott462 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Gallagher is one of the best 5v5 scorers in the league. Happy to put all the drama to bed and lock him up. He’s important in the ice and in the lockeroom. The RW position is secure for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Boagalott Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I am so glad Gally has been signed. I was definitely worried that he'd be gone, and everybody is in agreement and didnt want that. I was also worried that it could turn into Paccioretty 2.0. 6 hours ago, Fanpuck33 said: Love Gallagher, but too much. I agree. However, although the $ in this contract is a bit high, if you take into consideration what he got in his last contract and average it out with this new contract it works out to being reasonable. 3 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: 5 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: Like the $ (surprised it wasn’t higher), would have preferred 1 yr less on term. I think we now have 3 or 4 players where the last ur or two may hurt. A fair assessment It is, but it's more like 5 players. Price, Weber, Petry, Anderson, and now Gally are now under contract until their mid 30's. edit: more like 6, I forgot Byron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs#4,9,10,33 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Neech said: How does Danault get less than Drouin? I’m not a Drouin fan at all, but his contract was established Pre COVID-19 and Danault will be playing 3rd line Center throughout his new contract. yes I agree it’s not fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DON Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 7 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: besides, lafleur, savard. Robinson, shutt, lapointe, all hall of gamers from the 70’s dynasties. None of them retired as a hab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I expect the last two were Gainey and ... Beliveau? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs#4,9,10,33 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Gainey and H Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, tomh009 said: I expect the last two were Gainey and ... Beliveau? Believeau, Henri Richard, Cournoyer, Gainey and Markov - in that order as far as I can recall. roy, Chelios and koivu should have been on that list. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, habs#4,9,10,33 said: Gainey and H Richard Your forgetting the road runner - the guy who won 10 cups. Markov also finished his NHL career in Montreal and had 15+ seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Price is guaranteed to be on that list...he's almost there already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs#4,9,10,33 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, hab29RETIRED said: Your forgetting the road runner - the guy who won 10 cups. Markov also finished his NHL career in Montreal and had 15+ seasons I’m usually good with old Habs trivia. Did the roadrunner win the 10 cups or H Richard? I thought it was Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, hab29RETIRED said: Your forgetting the road runner - the guy who won 10 cups. Markov also finished his NHL career in Montreal and had 15+ seasons So, Markov and Gainey are the last two. Then Cornoyer, Beliveau and Richard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, habs#4,9,10,33 said: I’m usually good with old Habs trivia. Did the roadrunner win the 10 cups or H Richard? I thought it was Richard Richard had 11. Beliveau and Cournoyer each had 10 as players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs#4,9,10,33 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, Commandant said: Richard had 11. Beliveau and Cournoyer each had 10 as players 👍 The good old days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 4 hours ago, habs#4,9,10,33 said: I’m usually good with old Habs trivia. Did the roadrunner win the 10 cups or H Richard? I thought it was Richard Richard actually had 11. No ones going to touch the old habs from the 50,60’s and 70’s dynasties. now we are just happy to be a playoff team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: Richard actually had 11. No ones going to touch the old habs from the 50,60’s and 70’s dynasties. now we are just happy to be a playoff team. You say that as if it is only reflective of the Habs and not the change in the NHL in general. Cause we have the blackhawks win 3 cups in the last decade and people are calling that a dynasty and now they are rebuilding and should be shit next year. No team is able to put up a player with 6, 7, 8 cups in his career any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 35 minutes ago, Commandant said: You say that as if it is only reflective of the Habs and not the change in the NHL in general. Cause we have the blackhawks win 3 cups in the last decade and people are calling that a dynasty and now they are rebuilding and should be shit next year. No team is able to put up a player with 6, 7, 8 cups in his career any more. Very true. However, the Habs have been overwhelmingly mediocre for almost three decades. We had a legitimate contender for maybe two of the years since 1996. That's what has driven me crazy...I have no expectation of multiple Cups, but I do have an expectation that the team builds a bona-fide, high-end contender that has a real shot over a number of years. The Houle rebuild was a catastrophe of historic proportions. The Gainey rebuild was merely a failure. So that's 15 years of haplessness right there. The second Gainey rebuild gave us a Cinderella run in 2010 and resulted in the only team that could be considered the Real Thing, the 2014/15 group. That's well short of a "sustained run" of excellence. Other franchises can do it, there is no excuse for the Habs being semi-garbage for a quarter-century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 46 minutes ago, Commandant said: You say that as if it is only reflective of the Habs and not the change in the NHL in general. Cause we have the blackhawks win 3 cups in the last decade and people are calling that a dynasty and now they are rebuilding and should be shit next year. No team is able to put up a player with 6, 7, 8 cups in his career any more. I did say no one is going to touch the old habs again. And no, I don’t expect the habs to win the cup every year. But I certainly don’t want a team that misses the playoffs 4 out 5 years (3 if you are picky about getting in as a COVID tv add on). I do expect a team that consistently makes the playoffs and has a realistic chance of winning. I expect a Mgmt team that doesn’t decide in December to call it a season when there number 1 goalie gets hurt. I expect management not to make trades based on how they think a player should act, or didn’t act and puts winning first. You may be good with getting in every now and than, or missing the playoffs every couple of years, or being mediocre for over two decades, I’m not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Very true. However, the Habs have been overwhelmingly mediocre for almost three decades. We had a legitimate contender for maybe two of the years since 1996. That's what has driven me crazy...I have no expectation of multiple Cups, but I do have an expectation that the team builds a bona-fide, high-end contender that has a real shot over a number of years. The Houle rebuild was a catastrophe of historic proportions. The Gainey rebuild was merely a failure. So that's 15 years of haplessness right there. The second Gainey rebuild gave us a Cinderella run in 2010 and resulted in the only team that could be considered the Real Thing, the 2014/15 group. That's well short of a "sustained run" of excellence. Other franchises can do it, there is no excuse for the Habs being semi-garbage for a quarter-century. 100% agree. How many GM’s get 8 years to figure out how to do the job, when the team was progressively getting worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: 100% agree. How many GM’s get 8 years to figure out how to do the job, when the team was progressively getting worse? Well, the good news is that - after years of ignoring problems, or conspicuously failing to address them even as he busily "solves" non-problems, he has FINALLY stepped up with a high-impact off-season that clearly leaves the team significantly improved. Better late than never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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