Trizzak Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Oh hey the first round is today. Here's Trevor Timmins' pre-draft press conference: Habs have 11 picks this draft: 31st, 63rd, 64th, 76th, 87th, 113th, 126th, 127th, 142nd, 191st, and 223rd. Are they gonna pick 11 players? Almost assuredly not. Get ready for trades, risers, fallers, and overreacting to the potential of players we've never hear of. Let's go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, Trizzak said: Get ready for overreacting to the potential of players we've never hear of. Let's go! Speak for yourself 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I am not an expert on this, and this time I have not checked @Commandant 's picks, just to not be to biased. Here is my imperfect, amateurish, wish list: Corson Ceulemans(RD) / Aleksi Heimosalmi(RD) if either is available at 31 on the second round, in whatever order: Zachary Bolduc(LC Scott Morrow(RD)) Jack Bar(RD) Ryan Ufko(RD) Ville Koivunen(LW) In later round, if they are available: Benjamin Gaudreau(G) Brandt Clarke(RD) Fabian Lysell(RW) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Going with the Newfoundlander (appears was born in GP). Mr. Dean, for the Habs (at pick 30 or 31, whatever they call it). Zachary Dean Center -- shoots LBorn Jan 4 2003 -- Grande Prairie, ALTA [18 yrs. ago] Height 6.00 -- Weight 176 [183 cm/80 kg] Regular Season Playoffs Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM +/- GP G A Pts PIM 2019-20 Gatineau Olympiques QMJHL 57 18 28 46 22 -18 2020-21 Gatineau Olympiques QMJHL 23 10 10 20 20 -4 4 1 1 2 2 Embed Zachary Dean stats! | View as text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 To me the draft and free agency has surpassed the trade deadline. This is the fun time of year. I'm hoping we package our 1st and one of our 2nd round picks try and upgrade on D . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 18 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: In later round, if they are available: Benjamin Gaudreau(G) Brandt Clarke(RD) Fabian Lysell(RW) Brandt Clarke is a top-10 pick, he won't be available in the later rounds. Lysell will go ahead of Montreal's first pick as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think MB trades the pick this year. It’s going to be an interesting day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 7 hours ago, Commandant said: Speak for yourself Actually Trizzak accurately captures the tenor of discussion around the draft year after year. People speak with WAY more certainty than reality warrants, whether for good or ill. I’m old enough to remember the howls of outrage and derision when the Habs picked Price over sure-fire impact scorer Gilbert Brule, or the excitement when we drafted “the most talented player” in the entire draft in Andrei Kostitsyn and Alex Galchenyuk, LOL. It’s a fun day, but get back to me in four years or so about the results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 8 hours ago, Commandant said: Speak for yourself LOL Says the exception to the rule ... you are certainly amongst the elite amongst the general fanbase when it comes to draft knowledge ... your analyses are thorough and thoughtful, greatly appreciated, and beyond what the rest of us can offer. My best prediction, and likely more true this year than most, is that almost every team after Buffalo will be "amazed that he was still available when we selected", or some variation thereof ... following closely behind (hopefully, because it makes the draft more interesting) may be "when we saw he was till available we had to move up to take him", or variations thereof. Hopefully it's a fun evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I’ll guess Habs move up a few spots and take Svechkov .. or they stay put and land L’Heureux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Lacking both a first and second round pick, and in cap hell, wonder what Julien Brisebois gets up to tonight? THOUGHT: would sending them back their second rounder in return for Cirelli and the rights to Alex Barré-Boulet work? Maybe include the Capitals 3rd rounder if necessary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: [...] It’s a fun day, but get back to me in four years or so about the results Habs 4 years ago: Ryan Poehling 1st-25, 50% players drafted in this range have a 50% chance of becoming NHLers Josh Brook 2nd-56, 15% - still a prospect Joni Ikonen 2nd-58, 15% - bust, injuries Scott Walford 3rd-68, 10% - bust Cale Fleury 3rd-87, 10% - still too far down in depth chart even in SEA X 4th-118, TRADE: Jordie Benn to Canadiens for Greg Pateryn and this pick (#118-Markus Phillips) Jarret Tyszka 5th-149, <5% X 6th-180, TRADE: Traded Nikita Nesterov to Canadiens for Jonathan Racine (who?!) and this pick (#180-Cole Guttman) -> Nesterov walked and went to the KHL until he came back with the Flames in 2020 Cayden Primeau 7th-199, <5% and looking like a home run Edited July 23, 2021 by alfredoh2009 added Pateryn's last name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: Habs 4 years ago: Ryan Poehling 1st-25, 50% players drafted in this range have a 50% chance of becoming NHLers Josh Brook 2nd-56, 15% - still a prospect Joni Ikonen 2nd-58, 15% - bust, injuries Scott Walford 3rd-68, 10% - bust Cale Fleury 3rd-87, 10% - still too far down in depth chart even in SEA X 4th-118, TRADE: Jordie Benn to Canadiens for Greg and this pick (#118-Markus Phillips) Jarret Tyszka 5th-149, <5% X 6th-180, TRADE: Traded Nikita Nesterov to Canadiens for Jonathan Racine (who?!) and this pick (#180-Cole Guttman) -> Nesterov walked and went to the KHL until he came back with the Flames in 2020 Cayden Primeau 7th-199, <5% and looking like a home run Ha ha, thanks for the update! This shows that even 4 years is not enough time to reach definitive conclusions...draft day should be treated as an intriguing curiosity, not much more than that, except in really rare cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Actually Trizzak accurately captures the tenor of discussion around the draft year after year. People speak with WAY more certainty than reality warrants, whether for good or ill. I’m old enough to remember the howls of outrage and derision when the Habs picked Price over sure-fire impact scorer Gilbert Brule, or the excitement when we drafted “the most talented player” in the entire draft in Andrei Kostitsyn and Alex Galchenyuk, LOL. It’s a fun day, but get back to me in four years or so about the results He accurately captures 95% (or maybe more) of hockey fans around the draft. I was just making a joke that I didn't learn their names in the last two weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: Habs 4 years ago: Ryan Poehling 1st-25, 50% players drafted in this range have a 50% chance of becoming NHLers Josh Brook 2nd-56, 15% - still a prospect Joni Ikonen 2nd-58, 15% - bust, injuries Scott Walford 3rd-68, 10% - bust Cale Fleury 3rd-87, 10% - still too far down in depth chart even in SEA X 4th-118, TRADE: Jordie Benn to Canadiens for Greg and this pick (#118-Markus Phillips) Jarret Tyszka 5th-149, <5% X 6th-180, TRADE: Traded Nikita Nesterov to Canadiens for Jonathan Racine (who?!) and this pick (#180-Cole Guttman) -> Nesterov walked and went to the KHL until he came back with the Flames in 2020 Cayden Primeau 7th-199, <5% and looking like a home run Getting 2 players out of a draft is considered a success (a legit player being one who plays 200 NHL games). The NHL average for this is 1.8 per draft. Poehling is likely to get 200 NHL games IMO. His upside is in debate, but he's an NHL player. Brook its unclear, but I have faith in him. Fleury could get there.... though it won't be with us, its still a success for the Habs scouts if he does. Primeau looks like he will have a good chance to be an NHLer but needs time. This has to be seen as a successful draft today (though it is still up in the air and it could be an unsuccessful one if things don't break as predicted). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Our annual guess at the first round and some of Montreal's other picks: http://www.habsworld.net/2021/07/2021-habsworld-mock-draft/ Draft pool: https://www.habsworld.net/2021/07/2021-habsworld-draft-pool/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 William Eklund will be selected by an NHL team tonight. E4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 4 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: It’s a fun day, but get back to me in four years or so about the results Hockey is simply entertainment and getting excited or debating about possible ceiling of these high school kids, is just FUN thing to do for myself anyways and assume many other fanatics. We all know 70-80% (or more?) will be busts/not pan out as hoped, but so what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 12 hours ago, Commandant said: Speak for yourself A Commandant amendment: Get ready to denigrate any team that slightly reaches on a player over 6'2", and lose your shit over someone you had going in the 2nd round but falls to the 4th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zumpano21 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I’ve been thinking that if someone were to develop the AI for accurate drafting, they would have beaten Bezos into orbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 53 minutes ago, Trizzak said: A Commandant amendment: Get ready to denigrate any team that slightly reaches on a player over 6'2", and lose your shit over someone you had going in the 2nd round but falls to the 4th. Fair Though i have already prepared for some picks i know nothing about and some of my guys to fall. This will be the weirdest draft ever for a variety of reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Vancouver, Philadelphia, and Montreal were the three teams whose picks had been speculated to be in play. The first two have been moved, will Montreal move theirs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Draft is takin forever to start watching the TVA commentators ( French tv) kill time is cringe worthy... they are on mute now why is this on prime time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Sports Net (English tv) is not better what tv feed is everyone watching ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, alfredoh2009 said: Sports Net (English tv) is not better what tv feed is everyone watching ? sports net but not really paying attention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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