Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 17, 2022 Author Share Posted April 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: I guess we are hoping St-Louis ends with a double digit loosing streak Nope, I am fine if they win one maybe two of their remaining games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Two out of seven eh?! As long as he brings a positive attitude ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Kraken with the ShootouT win over Jersey. Perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 17, 2022 Author Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Commandant said: Kraken with the ShootouT win over Jersey. Perfect Absolutely perfect!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 So with Ottawa getting a point last night, the Habs can no longer catch them. That means the highest they could finish is 27th overall (sixth-last) and with the two-team lottery, that means Montreal will pick no worse than 8th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 17, 2022 Author Share Posted April 17, 2022 44 minutes ago, dlbalr said: So with Ottawa getting a point last night, the Habs can no longer catch them. That means the highest they could finish is 27th overall (sixth-last) and with the two-team lottery, that means Montreal will pick no worse than 8th. Yup. Even if the Habs go 3-3 in their last 6 games they are guaranteed to finish bottom 3 and then pick no worse than 5th. Seattle is now 3 points up with 2 games in hand and a somewhat similar schedule as far as difficulty goes so bottom 2 is a pretty good possibility now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Habs and Coyotes both 2-8 in their last ten games. Unlikely they will catch us but all it takes is a few surprise games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 17, 2022 Author Share Posted April 17, 2022 30 minutes ago, tomh009 said: Habs and Coyotes both 2-8 in their last ten games. Unlikely they will catch us but all it takes is a few surprise games. It would be a surprise as the Coyotes are just awful right now, like the Habs early in the year. I wonder what Sutter said to the Flames after the 1st intermission last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: It would be a surprise as the Coyotes are just awful right now, like the Habs early in the year. I wonder what Sutter said to the Flames after the 1st intermission last night. Gentlemen ... you know I support you ... it would be greatly appreciated by me, my coaches, the GM, the owner and the fans if you could $*&^(^%^&*$*%%^&*)(%^$%^&*(#$@#$%^$#@$#%$^%^*&(#$@#$%^&%$#$#$%^&$#@$#$^% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 44 minutes ago, tomh009 said: Habs and Coyotes both 2-8 in their last ten games. Unlikely they will catch us but all it takes is a few surprise games. They literally just need 2 extra points than us, as they have the tie breaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: It would be a surprise as the Coyotes are just awful right now, like the Habs early in the year. I wonder what Sutter said to the Flames after the 1st intermission last night. I don't think he needed to say much - they had Harri Sateri in net; it was guaranteed rout night as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 17, 2022 Author Share Posted April 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Commandant said: They literally just need 2 extra points than us, as they have the tie breaker. True, but Montreal has games left against Ottawa and Philly, will likely win one of those and perhaps win one out of four against the good teams. That means Arizona would have to win 3 of their remaining games, possible but very unlikely as it seems they have given up if last night is any indication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 38 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: True, but Montreal has games left against Ottawa and Philly, will likely win one of those and perhaps win one out of four against the good teams. That means Arizona would have to win 3 of their remaining games, possible but very unlikely as it seems they have given up if last night is any indication. Beating ottawa or philly or anyone else is no guarantee. This roster, especially after the deadline, is really poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 hour ago, GHT120 said: ... if you could $*&^(^%^&*$*%%^&*)(%^$%^&*(#$@#$%^$#@$#%$^%^*&(#$@#$%^&%$#$#$%^&$#@$#$^% But, ive had a vision, Wright in Hab colours, fuzzy but pretty certain is how the balls will drop May 16th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 17, 2022 Author Share Posted April 17, 2022 31 minutes ago, DON said: But, ive had a vision, Wright in Hab colours, fuzzy but pretty certain is how the balls will drop May 16th. I like your vision. How accurate have your other visions been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Commandant said: Beating ottawa or philly or anyone else is no guarantee. This roster, especially after the deadline, is really poor. Losing Chiarot and Lehkonen hurts defensively. And especially with Caufield going through a dry spell, they are not scoring enough to make up for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 17, 2022 Author Share Posted April 17, 2022 I saw this posted on another site. It gives the theoretical value of each pick. I guess it helps determine the value of each pick you have in case you want to trade up or down. Of course the other team would want to have to do it. Purely theoretical but interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 17, 2022 Author Share Posted April 17, 2022 I don't think the previous chart was readable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 17, 2022 Author Share Posted April 17, 2022 After looking at the previous chart, I am not sure how accurate it is. For example the Habs have 3 x 3rd round picks. If I add up the values 177 (66, their pick) + 162 (76 Anaheim's pick) + 122 (93, Carolina's pick) it comes to 461 which is the equivalent of the 14th overall pick. I think the Habs would make that trade in a heartbeat, don't think the team with the #14 pick would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Or would someone trade from 1st overall down to, say, fifth, for a late second-round pick? I think not. The values really do drop down much faster than this, especially in the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 https://dobberprospects.com/2020/05/16/nhl-draft-pick-probabilities/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 17, 2022 Author Share Posted April 17, 2022 21 minutes ago, tomh009 said: Or would someone trade from 1st overall down to, say, fifth, for a late second-round pick? I think not. The values really do drop down much faster than this, especially in the first round. Most certainly would not make that trade. And I agree about the first round as teams rarely if ever trade their first round pick for a combination of picks in later rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 3 hours ago, tomh009 said: Losing Chiarot and Lehkonen hurts defensively. And especially with Caufield going through a dry spell, they are not scoring enough to make up for that. Lehkonen and Chiarot were also both in the midst of the best offensive seasons of their career. There is also Tyler Toffoli missing after being traded. Add in an injury to Drouin and yes the team is significantly weaker offensively as well as defensively. Oh and the younger Pitlick isn't scoring at the rate he was either. Wonder why that is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 They have a team with similar strength to what they had at the beginning of the season and they are having similar results ... but gosh oh golly, chipper attitude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 If you cant see the difference in the team from the first half of the season to the second, i dont know what to tell you. If you dont see a clear difference in energy levels... I really have to question if we have watched the same season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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