Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, alfredoh2009 said: They have a team with similar strength to what they had at the beginning of the season and they are having similar results ... but gosh oh golly, chipper attitude If you look at purely stats, DD's record was 8-30-7, St. Louis is 12-15-4 I think that's a big difference, plus St. Louis lost Toffoli, Lehkonen and Chiarot through trades getting back nobody that helped him this year. I felt bad for DD because he was dealt a bad hand but the Habs have been clearly better under St. Louis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 On another note I have been doing a lot of reading on the 2023 draft and it looks terrific, a lot of really good centres, I think 6 of the top 8 players listed are centres. And it's not just Michkov and Bedard but Adam Fantilli looks like a beast. I know others have mentioned that the 2023 draft looks great. Hopefully Florida wins the cup and they have a huge letdown next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: On another note I have been doing a lot of reading on the 2023 draft and it looks terrific, a lot of really good centres, I think 6 of the top 8 players listed are centres. .. With Wright or Cooley & Suzuki, hope centre wont be weakness for next while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 21 minutes ago, DON said: With Wright or Cooley & Suzuki, hope centre wont be weakness for next while. If they draft Wright or Cooley that is probably true, depends on how the lottery balls fall BUT you had a vision so we are good. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 23 minutes ago, DON said: With Wright or Cooley & Suzuki, hope centre wont be weakness for next while. You can never have too many centres. It didn’t hurt Pittsburg to draft Malkin, Crosby and Stall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 minute ago, hab29RETIRED said: You can never have too many centres. It didn’t hurt Pittsburg to draft Malkin, Crosby and Stall. Good point. It's also hard to have too many good defensemen. There are a lot of holes to fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 13 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: If you look at purely stats, DD's record was 8-30-7, St. Louis is 12-15-4 I think that's a big difference, plus St. Louis lost Toffoli, Lehkonen and Chiarot through trades getting back nobody that helped him this year. I felt bad for DD because he was dealt a bad hand but the Habs have been clearly better under St. Louis. Indeed. Making a huge point out of defending DD seems like an exercise in sheer iconoclasm for its own sake. There is literally nothing to defend, not unlike the Houle era of GMing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Sens-Sea 2-2 mid 2nd Car up 3-1 on Arizona mid 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 Huge wins for Seattle and Jersey although Jersey was likely far enough away anyway. A huge loss for Vegas in an almost must win for them. How could they not come up big in that game? Didn't expect Arizona to win and they didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 With Bedard looking like the next big thing, is there anyone else hoping we end up with #2 instead of #1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Neech said: With Bedard looking like the next big thing, is there anyone else hoping we end up with #2 instead of #1? Why? It has no effect on 2023. The rule is that you cant win 3 lotteries in 5 years, nothing says you can't get two #1 picks in a row (though the stats on that are low due to lottery odds, the 2023 odds are not dependent on what happened in 2022). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Huge wins for Seattle and Jersey although Jersey was likely far enough away anyway. A huge loss for Vegas in an almost must win for them. How could they not come up big in that game? Didn't expect Arizona to win and they didn't. That win for seattle is huge. Chances are we are bottom 2 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Commandant said: Why? It has no effect on 2023. The rule is that you cant win 3 lotteries in 5 years, nothing says you can't get two #1 picks in a row (though the stats on that are low due to lottery odds, the 2023 odds are not dependent on what happened in 2022). Oh for some reason I thought you couldn't win consecutively, maybe the NBA does that. Wright and Bedard it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Commandant said: That win for seattle is huge. Chances are we are bottom 2 now. That is a huge win. Finish bottom 2 and they draft anywhere from 1 to 4 plus #34 in round 2. And we get to cheer against the Flames in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 You have to give those Canucks credit. They are not going away, looks like a huge win for them tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: That is a huge win. Finish bottom 2 and they draft anywhere from 1 to 4 plus #34 in round 2. And we get to cheer against the Flames in the playoffs. I always cheer against you the flames in the playoffs 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 I can now stop cheering for New Jersey as they can no longer finish ahead of the Habs due to the tie breaker (ROW). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Five games left for the Habs. Philly is six points ahead, Seattle five, so those look pretty unlikely, too. On the other hand, we keep offering opportunities to Arizona (two points behind) but they have not grasped one of those yet. Not likely but there is still some hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 minute ago, tomh009 said: Five games left for the Habs. Philly is six points ahead, Seattle five, so those look pretty unlikely, too. On the other hand, we keep offering opportunities to Arizona (two points behind) but they have not grasped one of those yet. Not likely but there is still some hope. Plus Seattle has 2 games in hand again, bottom 2 is looking more and more probable. You are right, not likely but can always hope Arizona pulls off a miracle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 Philly has made some bad decisions. They gave Arizona a 2nd round pick in this year's draft to take Gostisbehere off their hands. So far Gostisbehere has 44 points for a bad team plus Arizona will have something like the 35th pick in a good draft year. Philly also threw in a 7th round pick. Arizona gave up nothing but some cap room. https://www.fiveforhowling.com/2021/7/26/22589805/arizona-coyotes-win-big-in-trade-for-shayne-gostisbehere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Philly has made some bad decisions. They gave Arizona a 2nd round pick in this year's draft to take Gostisbehere off their hands. So far Gostisbehere has 44 points for a bad team plus Arizona will have something like the 35th pick in a good draft year. Philly also threw in a 7th round pick. Arizona gave up nothing but some cap room. https://www.fiveforhowling.com/2021/7/26/22589805/arizona-coyotes-win-big-in-trade-for-shayne-gostisbehere Cap space is precious ... otherwise teams wouldn't make trades like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Cap space is precious ... otherwise teams wouldn't make trades like that Cap space is precious. Obviously Philly didn't use the cap space they gained very wisely or they wouldn't be such a bad team. I will be very very surprised if the Habs don't beat them Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Cap space is precious. Obviously Philly didn't use the cap space they gained very wisely or they wouldn't be such a bad team. I will be very very surprised if the Habs don't beat them Thursday. The habs are also such a bad team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Commandant said: The habs are also such a bad team. How we get here was rather different from the Flyers, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, tomh009 said: How we get here was rather different from the Flyers, though. When I see how bad the Flyers are doing a little tear forms in my eye as I think about how bad Bobby Clarke must be taking this. Breaks my heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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