2024-25 NHL discussion thread

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

54 minutes ago, dlbalr said:

 

I could see Dubas doing some buying and selling.  This buys them some cap space, how can that be utilized now?  I can't see them pulling the plug just yet on this season.

 

It does seem early to pull the plug but after that horrible effort against Dallas perhaps Dubas has realized they are just too old and not good enough. Not that he didn't know this before but sometimes it needs to be made crystal clear like it was last night. 

[DON]

Are 'Tie" games coming back?

Nashville is only team that seems out of place, of this group of basement dwellers.

[JoeLassister]

5 minutes ago, DON said:

Are 'Tie" games coming back?

Nashville is only team that seems out of place, of this group of basement dwellers.

Better not.  I'm cancelling my season tickets if they bring back tie games.  I'd bring back the 2 lines pass whistle before tie games. 

[Lanes World]

How much are those tickets? 

[JoeLassister]

1 hour ago, Lanes World said:

How much are those tickets? 

1800$ per ticket, for half season (21 games + 2 preseason). In the greys at the balcony.

[DON]

9 hours ago, JoeLassister said:

Better not.  I'm cancelling my season tickets if they bring back tie games.  I'd bring back the 2 lines pass whistle before tie games. 

I simply hate the shootout Joe, is not hockey.

Bring back ties (why not?), or change points to help make goofy shootouts go away.

[GHT120]

32 minutes ago, DON said:

I simply hate the shootout Joe, is not hockey.

Bring back ties (why not?), or change points to help make goofy shootouts go away.

If you are talking about the 3 points for a regulation win and 2 for an O/T win and 1 for an O/T loss it still doesn't mean there can't be ties ... but, when there is a shootout, I would be OK with a limiting how much time a shooter has, or maybe having teams shoot simultaneously in opposite directions (i.e., use both goals, start shooters from the faceoff dots on the far side of centre, home team shooter picks the side each time), to speed it up.

[Commandant]

31 minutes ago, DON said:

I simply hate the shootout Joe, is not hockey.

Bring back ties (why not?), or change points to help make goofy shootouts go away.

 

Ties are the worst. 

 

As for what is or isn't hockey.... there is a time when people said, 5 vs 5 isn't hockey, we need the rover.  Forward passes in the offensive zone isn't hockey. So what is or isn't hockey changes as time evolves. 

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

11 minutes ago, Commandant said:

So what is or isn't hockey changes as time evolves. 

 

Agreed, I like the overtime and shootout. It's way better than leaving it at a tie. 

[hab29RETIRED]

16 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

 

Agreed, I like the overtime and shootout. It's way better than leaving it at a tie. 

100% agree. I'd also say get rid of the loser point if it goes to a shootout. Encourage the teams to try and win in OT.  

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

Here's how you solve the NHL format.

 

Get rid of the SO.

2 points for a win.

0 points for a loss.

And...are you ready for this?

0 points for a tie.

 

The result will be some of the most exciting hockey ever seen, as teams go for broke to break ties.

 

You're welcome, NHL.

 

[DON]

Love the 3 on 3.

Shootout was always just something goofy to do at end of practice, thats it.

But has nothing to do with team pla

But just my take, can see how many are fine with it, like fighting.

 

Tampa up 2-0 on Jets.

[JoeLassister]

I like shootouts personaly.
I would leave the pts system as is.

But I would go

1. 5 mins 4 on 4
2. 10 (or 7) mins 3 on 3
3. Shootout

[DON]

14 minutes ago, JoeLassister said:

I like shootouts personaly.
I would leave the pts system as is.

But I would go

1. 5 mins 4 on 4
2. 10 (or 7) mins 3 on 3
3. Shootout

But, 15 minutes more wouldnt fly, no matter seems most are happy with shootout and likely isnt going away anytime soon.

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

Did anybody see the Reaves hit on Darnell Nurse?  Brutal. 

[Prime Minister Koivu]

1 minute ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

Did anybody see the Reaves hit on Darnell Nurse?  Brutal. 

Worst hit in recent memory. Completely savage shoulder to the jaw. 
 

History of suspensions and fines. 
 

20 game suspension 

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

That hit was disgusting.

 

That POS Reaves has gotta pay.

 

Knowing the NHL, they'll give him two games

[GHT120]

 

But what will the NHL Department of Player Endangerment think about it?

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

Listen to the Leafs announcers. Also brutal. 

 

 

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

Reaves gets 5 games, no big surprise there. 

 

 

Toronto Maple Leafs' Ryan Reaves suspended five games for illegal check to head of Darnell Nurse | TSN

[Prime Minister Koivu]

4 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

Reaves gets 5 games, no big surprise there. 

 

 

Toronto Maple Leafs' Ryan Reaves suspended five games for illegal check to head of Darnell Nurse | TSN

That is way to low for a repeat offender like this. 
 

The farce continues 

 

 

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

A complete joke, but I expect no less than criminal negligence from the NHL's Department of Player Endangerment.

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

6 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

A complete joke, but I expect no less than criminal negligence from the NHL's Department of Player Endangerment.

 

And that's why I said in an earlier discussion that fan's would never all agree on officiating. There will always be complaints.  I read the leaf's forum and there are many who think it's a clean hit and/or it's Nurses fault for not having his head up. 

 

I think it was an awful hit but not everybody thinks so. 

[GHT120]

10 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

And that's why I said in an earlier discussion that fan's would never all agree on officiating. There will always be complaints.  I read the leaf's forum and there are many who think it's a clean hit and/or it's Nurses fault for not having his head up. 

 

I think it was an awful hit but not everybody thinks so. 

There are always Neanderthal and/or apologist elements in ANY fanbase ... they would defend one of their players be-heading an opponent (intentional exaggeration), and the Neanderthals in other fanbases would defend them as long as the victim wasn't from the team they support ... their opinions mean nothing to me ... NHL Department of Player Endangerment once again did the absolute minimum necessary, proving the NHL doesn't really care about player safety ... sadly, the NHLPA also abandons their supposed responsibility to protect players and will represent Reaves if he appeals.

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

4 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

 

And that's why I said in an earlier discussion that fan's would never all agree on officiating. There will always be complaints.  I read the leaf's forum and there are many who think it's a clean hit and/or it's Nurses fault for not having his head up. 

 

I think it was an awful hit but not everybody thinks so. 

 

I’m not sure that consensus - especially factoring in transparently biased fan-bases - is the main desideratum. The preferable approach clarifies itself when you abstract from the particular example to think in terms of general principles.

 

So:

 

On officiating, calling the rules consistently is more fair than calling them arbitrarily. Is fairness superior to arbitrariness? Yes? Then let’s do that.

 

On discipline, imposing stringent punishments makes the game safer. Joke penalties increase the risk of players suffering permanent brain damage because clodhoppers like Reaves can’t control their sh*t. Is it better that we minimize that danger? Yes? Then throw the book at pukes like Reaves.  

 

The way Leafs fans should be thinking of this is: what if that had been some EDM thug on Matthews? Then they’d want him executed.