Guest Stogey24 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 31 minutes ago, Meller93 said: Still, these trades happen. Panarin for Saad. Still? This team is a fringe playoff team that has a glaring weakness at centre. Why would you trade one of your top assets for a redundancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Stogey24 said: Still? This team is a fringe playoff team that has a glaring weakness at centre. Why would you trade one of your top assets for a redundancy Because he's beyond the point of getting him for a top six centre, which I think was possible in 2015 but not so much today. Add a first and a prospect and I still have my doubts. Might as well go in a different direction, trade him for a left winger some may feel is just on a hot streak but also has a decent contract, but would at least change the team dynamic of not having a peeled potato as captain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 4 hours ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: Because he's beyond the point of getting him for a top six centre, which I think was possible in 2015 but not so much today. Add a first and a prospect and I still have my doubts. Might as well go in a different direction, trade him for a left winger some may feel is just on a hot streak but also has a decent contract, but would at least change the team dynamic of not having a peeled potato as captain. Amen! There are 103 NHL players with more goals than Casperetty at this moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 minute ago, sbhatt said: Amen! There are 103 NHL players with more goals than Casperetty at this moment. I think it's by design this year. He knows that no defenseman will spring him with an outlet pass and there is no Radulov to toy with defenders waiting for a scoring chance, so he is trying to do more in the offensive zone on his own. That wasn't really his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 3 hours ago, BCHabnut said: I think it's by design this year. He knows that no defenseman will spring him with an outlet pass and there is no Radulov to toy with defenders waiting for a scoring chance, so he is trying to do more in the offensive zone on his own. That wasn't really his game. Trying to do too much? Most nights he's a floater, looks uninterested. If he had half the heart that Gally or even Shaw display on a nightly basis, he'd have way more points. I'd trade him just to show his effort won't be tolerated, especially from the guy wearing the C. Get Nugent-Hopkins from Edmonton, at least he tries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, TheDriveFor25 said: Get Nugent-Hopkins from Edmonton, at least he tries. They need help at defence. Better chance trading Weber to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 I'm hearing Kris Letang rumours out of Pittsburgh so let's get silly. To Pittsburgh - Shea Weber - Andrew Shaw To Montreal - Kris Letang - Carl Hagelin For Pittsburgh: they get gritty and move Hagelin, who has been missing Bonino and looks lost these days. He's become the new Kunitz. Weber can hide a bit better in Pittsburgh under the shadow of Crosby/Malkin/Kessel. Shaw would be appealing as a guy who can slot in anywhere and has centres that would make him look better than he is. For Montreal: The idea of Subban for Weber for Letang is a bit easier to swallow. Letang would be a superstar in Montreal all his own. Hagelin has seen better days and is a bit overpaid but that doesn't hurt Montreal as much as it hurts Pittsburgh. Plus he's done in two years compared to Shaw's five. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 26, 2017 Author Share Posted December 26, 2017 If the Habs were to consider moving Weber (and I don't think they would, especially for a struggling and injury prone Letang), they'd likely want to wait until they're off the hook for cap recapture (and that's not until the end of the 19-20 season). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link67 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 There is no way at this point that Letang is anywhere near as capable as Weber is to hold down the fort as a top D-man for over 25min a night. Weber is simply a better defenceman, has been for years and still is. We don't need to trade a general on the backend for a broke down version of karlsson. That would be a loss for us quite easily, then you factor in the injury prone nature of Letang and the loss becomes even greater. And after that type of trade, imagine the fury from those who think this team is too soft already. You essentially trade the 2 guys who play with the most grit on the team for 2 softies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Letang's history, especially the stroke... would scare the hell out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Seems some wanted to trade Gallagher when his value was lowest, maybe do the opposite now for a young centre (make some package centred on Gallagher). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Weber for a pre negotiated Karlsson Ottawa gets a franchise Dman signed long term at a comparably good rate. We get a puck moving dman that Ottawa can't afford to resign. I do wonder if he is damaged goods and his foot/ankle is worse than he lets on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Weber for a pre negotiated Karlsson Ottawa gets a franchise Dman signed long term at a comparably good rate. We get a puck moving dman that Ottawa can't afford to resign. I do wonder if he is damaged goods and his foot/ankle is worse than he lets on. I suspect Weber will be fine, and I love the idea of the trade, but doubt Ottawa will be stupid enough to do it. Anyway, MB probably thinks Weber is better than Karlsson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 02/01/2018 at 9:18 AM, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I suspect Weber will be fine, and I love the idea of the trade, but doubt Ottawa will be stupid enough to do it. Anyway, MB probably thinks Weber is better than Karlsson. To be honest, I'm not really sure which one is a better Dman. Very often, Karlsson looks really bad out there in his own zone and gets fooled a lot by speedy forwards with great hands. On the other hand, I might be tempted to trade for Karlsson and make him our #1 C... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Pacioretty Fabbri Barbashev 2nd Backlund Bennett 2nd Bjugstad Matheson 1st Faksa Heiskanen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 The Fabbri and Bennett deals I'd do in a heartbeat, same with the Bjugstad. I doubt those teams would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobRock Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Anthony Duclair has requested a trade out of Arizona, he could be a decent fit with Drouin. 22 years old, has a 20-goal season under his belt, might be available for one of the three 2nd rounders for the draft, and a player (eg, McCarron, Hudon, de la Rose, maybe even Fucale) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Pacioretty for Sam Steel, Josh Mahura, 2nd rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Hudon for duclair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I'd rather keep Hudon I don't rate Duclair that highly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Commandant said: I'd rather keep Hudon I don't rate Duclair that highly If you think Hudon is going to be a top 6 player in the NHL you need to take your habs blinders off. He is at best a 3rd line center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Metallica said: If you think Hudon is going to be a top 6 player in the NHL you need to take your habs blinders off. He is at best a 3rd line center. 1) He's not a centre, so who is watching him with blinders on. He's played 2 games at centre all season and 0 games at centre last season (AHL included). So yeah, when you call him a centre, you show just how little you actually know about Hudon. 2) I think Hudon is already, right now, a very good third line winger. Duclair had an excellent rookie season, but has had some bad years since then. I'm not sure he's better than a third liner either. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbp Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Im personally just shocked hudon hadnt scored more. Regularly impressed by his play. Same with Lehkonen... but my eyes could be bad as I regularly think Small Paul is the best hab on the ice :)) 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 12 hours ago, RobRock said: Anthony Duclair has requested a trade out of Arizona, he could be a decent fit with Drouin. 22 years old, has a 20-goal season under his belt, might be available for one of the three 2nd rounders for the draft, and a player (eg, McCarron, Hudon, de la Rose, maybe even Fucale) Duclair isn't worth anywhere near that much. He would be a terrible fit in Montreal. He has been called out by his coach in Arizona for wildly inconsistent efforts and a stubborn refusal to play the system. Tocchet also said recently he doesn't want to play him in the bottom six regularly as he'd be too much of a liability if he's not in a scoring role and as a result, he has been a healthy scratch (on a team much worse than Montreal) on multiple occasions already. He'd be in the doghouse with the Habs within a week. He's also just not that good; this isn't the rookie-year player you'd be getting. By the way, while the report of the trade request only came out yesterday, the actual request came back in November. Clearly, there isn't much of a market for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I agree with those saying we should pass on Duclair; the last thing the Habs need is another soft player who can't put the puck in the net anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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