Commandant Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, BCHabnut said: It was a tiny bit late, but looked clean. Hughes was hurt in the game, not sure if that was the hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 57 minutes ago, BCHabnut said: It was a tiny bit late, but looked clean. I didn't see anything wrong with the hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Here's a more fulsome look. Hughes was hurt on the play. That's why PK responded as he did. For my money, it was a clean hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 He led with the knee, but clean hit overall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 3 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Here's a more fulsome look. Hughes was hurt on the play. That's why PK responded as he did. For my money, it was a clean hit. didn't know PK was such a team player... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 32 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: didn't know PK was such a team player... Neither did I. I guess he is maturing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Lehkonen 2g+3a in 9 games, playing 17-18 minutes/game, a bigger role than he had in Montreal even though the Avs are a stronger team. I suspect that the Avalanche think they got good value in this trade. Maybe this will have been a win-win trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, tomh009 said: Lehkonen 2g+3a in 9 games, playing 17-18 minutes/game, a bigger role than he had in Montreal even though the Avs are a stronger team. I suspect that the Avalanche think they got good value in this trade. Maybe this will have been a win-win trade? There’s no question he is an excellent player. Hopefully it will be a win-win. He’s a guy I hated to lose, but one that had to be moved given the return, what it would cost to resign him, our current cap situation, where we are today, and where we will be for at least the next two to three years. It would have been great if we could have moved Armia, Hoffman, or Gallagher instead, but that wasn’t going to be an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: There’s no question he is an excellent player. Hopefully it will be a win-win. He’s a guy I hated to lose, but one that had to be moved given the return, what it would cost to resign him, our current cap situation, where we are today, and where we will be for at least the next two to three years. It would have been great if we could have moved Armia, Hoffman, or Gallagher instead, but that wasn’t going to be an option. I agree, one of my favourite players but it was one of those tough decisions that had to be made especially given the return they got. I am cheering for him in Colorado. Hopefully HuGo can work some magic on the other contracts in the summer. Gallagher will be a tough one to move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 hour ago, tomh009 said: Lehkonen 2g+3a in 9 games, playing 17-18 minutes/game, a bigger role than he had in Montreal even though the Avs are a stronger team. I suspect that the Avalanche think they got good value in this trade. They're down Landeskog and Kadri right now so he's playing a bigger role (including PP1) as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Well, this piece pretty much makes Bergevin out to be the world's biggest A-hole: New Canadiens management team welcomes back CH legends | Montreal Gazette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 51 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Well, this piece pretty much makes Bergevin out to be the world's biggest A-hole: New Canadiens management team welcomes back CH legends | Montreal Gazette The article certainly doesn't make him look good does it. The past is tremendously important as it should be inspiring to the new players. Disappointed to read this about past management. Wonder if there is another side to the story here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted April 21, 2022 Author Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: The article certainly doesn't make him look good does it. The past is tremendously important as it should be inspiring to the new players. Disappointed to read this about past management. Wonder if there is another side to the story here. Philipe Cantin's book is cited multiple times, dating back to the early MB days. I wonder why Stu Cowan doesn't cite other sources. I believe the article, I remember that there was quite some noise by alumni about getting access to their room; but if I remember correctly, that was sorted out in the last few years. Certainly Bob Gainey's speech before last year's cup run is a highlight of how much better it got. Also, if I am not mistaken, Bergevin was hired after the centennial fiasco. There was a movie made at that time and the buzz at training camp the season after the centennial was that all the players that were in the movie were traded or let walk. There was a sense of entitlement in the room that MB cleared. Meritocracy was the new modus operandi Does anyone else remember those days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 59 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: Philipe Cantin's book is cited multiple times, dating back to the early MB days. I wonder why Stu Cowan doesn't cite other sources. I believe the article, I remember that there was quite some noise by alumni about getting access to their room; but if I remember correctly, that was sorted out in the last few years. Certainly Bob Gainey's speech before last year's cup run is a highlight of how much better it got. Also, if I am not mistaken, Bergevin was hired after the centennial fiasco. There was a movie made at that time and the buzz at training camp the season after the centennial was that all the players that were in the movie were traded or let walk. There was a sense of entitlement in the room that MB cleared. Meritocracy was the new modus operandi Does anyone else remember those days? I think things may have started better with MB vis-a-vis the alumni but I don't know how long it lasted ... by March 2016 Guy Lafleur made the rather scathing "The way I look at it right now, there’s no first line, second line, third line. I think they have four fourth lines" assessment of MB's roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 I don't really see so much concrete negative content about Bergevin there. The alumni access -- if that was him -- is a bit petty, but, other than that, the only thing there is Savard complaining that Bergevin was ungrateful and didn't call him after being hired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, alfredoh2009 said: Philipe Cantin's book is cited multiple times, dating back to the early MB days. I wonder why Stu Cowan doesn't cite other sources. I believe the article, I remember that there was quite some noise by alumni about getting access to their room; but if I remember correctly, that was sorted out in the last few years. Certainly Bob Gainey's speech before last year's cup run is a highlight of how much better it got. Also, if I am not mistaken, Bergevin was hired after the centennial fiasco. There was a movie made at that time and the buzz at training camp the season after the centennial was that all the players that were in the movie were traded or let walk. There was a sense of entitlement in the room that MB cleared. Meritocracy was the new modus operandi Does anyone else remember those days? I don't remember the movie around the centennial and some of that stuff but I remember there was an issue of alumni having too much access to players and at times, telling them things that differed from the coaching staff. Bergevin shut that down, perhaps a bit to the opposite extreme, but as you noted, it had seemingly gotten a bit better. It's a frequent complaint from Savard who makes an appearance every so often to complain about the same stuff over and over again...he's not the only alumnus who has been guilty of that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 The centennial happened under Gainey in 2008-09 and 09-10. Gauthier took over part way through the 09-10 season. Not sure how much it.had to do with his hiring over 2 years later at the end of.the 11-12 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Since March 13th (19 games) Toffoli has 3 goals and 6 assists ... cooled off a little from the 8g, 4a in his first 13 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Since March 13th (19 games) Toffoli has 3 goals and 6 assists ... cooled off a little from the 8g, 4a in his first 13 games. I had noticed that he hasn't been showing up on the scoresheet as much. I guess the new team excitement phase is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV-G Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I was looking for any news on Jesperi Kotkaniemi and haven't found much. I noticed he was not listed on the roster for Tuesday night's game against the Rangers. Has anyone followed Carolina through the first round? Did he play at all. I like him as a young man but do not like how he left so I have mixed emotions about him. But I do wish him well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 I try not to judge young adults (more or less 18 to 22 yr) too harshly. They are not yet the adult that will be remembered. Sports-wise, they are also just coming into the player that will be remembered. If KK is screwing up his professional life, that is tragic for him. I wish him well but I am so glad the Habs were fortunate to get Dvorak, 2022 3rd round pick and a bit over $1M in cap space (difference between Dvorak's contract and KKs) I have stopped looking up his stats, TOI or gameday scratch. I get more joy from seeing Dumont and Hudon play well against the Rocket that in watching KK spiral down to oblivion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) that being said: "Kotkaniemi recorded one assist, two shots and one block in 9:07 of ice time versus the Rangers on Wednesday." https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/hockey/news/hurricanes-jesperi-kotkaniemi-earns-helper-in-win/ Edited May 19, 2022 by alfredoh2009 added stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: that being said: "Kotkaniemi recorded one assist, two shots and one block in 9:07 of ice time versus the Rangers on Wednesday." https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/hockey/news/hurricanes-jesperi-kotkaniemi-earns-helper-in-win/ The least TOI of any 'Cane says more to me than the assist, shots or block ... it may be interesting to see if he earned more TOI for Game 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 On 5/19/2022 at 3:48 PM, GHT120 said: The least TOI of any 'Cane says more to me than the assist, shots or block ... it may be interesting to see if he earned more TOI for Game 2. Well he did ... 20 seconds ... of course that could just be a bad line change ... definitive 4th line minutes ... again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 It's nice to see that the Canes have enough cap space to pay $5M/year for a 10-minute/game forward! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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