Trizzak Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Weird, the rumoured roster doesn't appear to meet the contract requirements. Not enough 21-22 contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: If I'm Seattle, I don't waste my picks on UFAs. I just go sign them on the open market following the expansion draft. So I'm not surprised they didn't pick Danault at all. They took multiple UFAs.... Larsson, Dreidger, Oleksiak, who they signed deals with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Trizzak said: Weird, the rumoured roster doesn't appear to meet the contract requirements. Not enough 21-22 contracts. I think they are counting Larsson, Dreidger and Oleksiak as 21-22 deals since they signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 This is more of a @dlbalr or @Commandantquestion, but if there are side deals can they be announced today or not until the roster freeze is lifted? That might explain some of the questionable picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said: This is more of a @dlbalr or @Commandantquestion, but if there are side deals can they be announced today or not until the roster freeze is lifted? That might explain some of the questionable picks. They can announce trades today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said: This is more of a @dlbalr or @Commandantquestion, but if there are side deals can they be announced today or not until the roster freeze is lifted? That might explain some of the questionable picks. We will get some side deals tonight I don't think the picks are that strange. This is a very, very analytics focused front office (Francis teams in Carolina were always great analytically and sunk by Cam Ward or other bad goaltending he just couldn't get out from due to their contracts). He built the roster they have now, which is excellent The projected point total by the analytics guys at Evolving Wild is 102 points. That is with plenty of cap space left and virtually no long-term, big money contracts giving them a ton of flexibility out the gate. Seattle makes the playoffs, mark my words... and by year 3 they are a true cup contender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 38 minutes ago, Trizzak said: Weird, the rumoured roster doesn't appear to meet the contract requirements. Not enough 21-22 contracts. Where are you all seeing a full roster? TSN, LeBrun, Friedman, Seravalli... I haven't seen anything new since the Borgen pick. Also, whoever is leaking all of this needs to be fired. This was a big opportunity to have a big event on ESPN2 with live reaction shots of teams finding out who they are losing. Instead the whole thing has been leaking all day and we're apparently getting pre-recorded videos of picks that were filmed before the actual picks were in. What a typical horrible PR move by Bettman. This league has worse marketing than MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Fanpuck33 said: Where are you all seeing a full roster? TSN, LeBrun, Friedman, Seravalli... I haven't seen anything new since the Borgen pick. Also, whoever is leaking all of this needs to be fired. This was a big opportunity to have a big event on ESPN2 with live reaction shots of teams finding out who they are losing. Instead the whole thing has been leaking all day and we're apparently getting pre-recorded videos of picks that were filmed before the actual picks were in. What a typical horrible PR move by Bettman. This league has worse marketing than MLB. Players are informed. Players tell their family, friends, pizza guy, etc. Sucks, but insiders gonna insider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Trizzak said: Players are informed. Players tell their family, friends, pizza guy, etc. Sucks, but insiders gonna insider. We should live reactions from players finding out, too! The only people who should know until the show should be the Seattle front office and the league officials who verify and approve it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Trizzak said: Players are informed. Players tell their family, friends, pizza guy, etc. Sucks, but insiders gonna insider. They are not informed in the entry draft until everyone else is, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, tomh009 said: They are not informed in the entry draft until everyone else is, too. Draft picks for an entry draft aren't submitted to the league 10 hours before they are actually selected. Imagine if the NHL gathered all of the exposed NHLers in a rink to hear their names be called! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, Trizzak said: Players are informed. Players tell their family, friends, pizza guy, etc. Sucks, but insiders gonna insider. This is the first event on ESPN in 17 years. ESPN paid the NHL a shit load of money. If I'm Bettman, I would have done the following. I want this new deal to get off on the right foot. Never want to make a bad first impression. Seattle, you tell nobody. If this gets out we are fining the team. Teams and players can find out at 8:00 pm, its not like they need to fly to seattle before hand. You sign any UFAs, ok, that leaks, no avoiding that due to agents and players involved. But everyone else, you can't leak any of it. Then you say to the people working at NHL Central Registry, anyone leaks these picks, youre fired. This is such a HUGE missed marketing opportunity.... HUGE.... An event that fans from all 32 teams will watch? The NHL never gets those. Not enough people know the prospects to give the NHL Draft a big rating, and the sport is so regional that lots of fans wont even watch the cup final if their team isn't playing. This was a HUGE marketing opportunity and its gone now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 They also didn't need the list 10 hours before. Could have been 2 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Commandant said: This is the first event on ESPN in 17 years. ESPN paid the NHL a shit load of money. If I'm Bettman, I would have done the following. I want this new deal to get off on the right foot. Never want to make a bad first impression. Seattle, you tell nobody. If this gets out we are fining the team. Teams and players can find out at 8:00 pm, its not like they need to fly to seattle before hand. You sign any UFAs, ok, that leaks, no avoiding that due to agents and players involved. But everyone else, you can't leak any of it. Then you say to the people working at NHL Central Registry, anyone leaks these picks, youre fired. This is such a HUGE missed marketing opportunity.... HUGE.... An event that fans from all 32 teams will watch? The NHL never gets those. Not enough people know the prospects to give the NHL Draft a big rating, and the sport is so regional that lots of fans wont even watch the cup final if their team isn't playing. This was a HUGE marketing opportunity and its gone now. This is the culmination of years of terrible marketing. Even when the league produced a brilliant line of myNHL ads, they were too cheap to air them anywhere other than during NHL games. This was a huge opportunity for the league to make a splash on ESPN and they totally botched it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 from player safety to marketing, this league has always been run by clowns. Nothing new there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Commandant said: We will get some side deals tonight I don't think the picks are that strange. This is a very, very analytics focused front office (Francis teams in Carolina were always great analytically and sunk by Cam Ward or other bad goaltending he just couldn't get out from due to their contracts). He built the roster they have now, which is excellent The projected point total by the analytics guys at Evolving Wild is 102 points. That is with plenty of cap space left and virtually no long-term, big money contracts giving them a ton of flexibility out the gate. Seattle makes the playoffs, mark my words... and by year 3 they are a true cup contender So he should have actually taken Price than… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, hab29RETIRED said: So he should have actually taken Price than… The Hurricanes have done fine with cheap goalies who are half decent (but not great) and not spending 10.5 million on the goaltending. Dreidger and Vanecek should be able to provide what Mrazek/Reimer have done in Carolina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 Seems like someone told TSN and the well known insiders to shut the hell up. None of them have posted anything since around the time the Borgen pick was spoiled. They should have thought of that a lot earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Fanpuck33 said: Seems like someone told TSN and the well known insiders to shut the hell up. None of them have posted anything since around the time the Borgen pick was spoiled. They should have thought of that a lot earlier. It’s not the insiders fault that the kraken have loose lips. They’re doing their jobs. It’s the team that is at fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Fanpuck33 said: Seems like someone told TSN and the well known insiders to shut the hell up. None of them have posted anything since around the time the Borgen pick was spoiled. They should have thought of that a lot earlier. By then, pretty much every pick was leaked. They're all out there now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: It’s not the insiders fault that the kraken have loose lips. They’re doing their jobs. It’s the team that is at fault. Was I blaming the insiders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Fleury's pick is now official. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, Fanpuck33 said: Was I blaming the insiders? Not saying you were - just commenting on the comment that they were told to stay quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 This presentation is leaping back and forth from charming to cringey, but the emphasis is on cringey. If they announced the trades that went with some of these picks the crowd might pick up a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Commandant said: ... Seattle, you tell nobody. If this gets out we are fining the team. Teams and players can find out at 8:00 pm, its not like they need to fly to seattle before hand ... 4 hours ago, Commandant said: They also didn't need the list 10 hours before. Could have been 2 hours. Don't know that they even needed two hours ...really just require long enough for the NHL to confirm that Seattle has complied with all the draft rules before picks are announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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