2024 draft, pick 5: Ivan Demidov

[DON]

1a on 1st PP goal in a 5-4 OT loss

[DON]

On 8/25/2024 at 6:38 AM, Commandant said:

 

Not many players can do it at the speed and precision necessary for.it to work in the NHL.  For those who can, its still effective.

FWIW, Pronman points to 3.

Skinner i can picture, other ones i dont know.

 

Drysdale over Gauthier? Yakemchuk over Demidov? Answering your top NHL prospect questions - The Athletic (nytimes.com)

"You mentioned how Demidov’s skating mechanics are “awkward but powerful” and expressed concerns about his ability to translate his style of play to the NHL (in part due to the skating, as I understand it). Do you know of any similar players drafted in the past who had similar skating and (1) had issues adapting due to the skating and never lived up to their projection and (2) had similar awkward skating but corrected the stride and later thrived in the NHL? Or any other comparable you found enlightening? — Raphael D." 

 

"I asked that question to a lot of NHL scouts in the lead-up to the draft. The names I heard that were convincing were Jeff Skinner, Lucas Raymond and Kevin Fiala. I’d argue Demidov is better than them at the same age, though."

[Sir_Boagalott]

On 9/6/2024 at 8:47 AM, DON said:

FWIW, Pronman points to 3.

Skinner i can picture, other ones i dont know.

 

Drysdale over Gauthier? Yakemchuk over Demidov? Answering your top NHL prospect questions - The Athletic (nytimes.com)

"You mentioned how Demidov’s skating mechanics are “awkward but powerful” and expressed concerns about his ability to translate his style of play to the NHL (in part due to the skating, as I understand it). Do you know of any similar players drafted in the past who had similar skating and (1) had issues adapting due to the skating and never lived up to their projection and (2) had similar awkward skating but corrected the stride and later thrived in the NHL? Or any other comparable you found enlightening? — Raphael D." 

 

"I asked that question to a lot of NHL scouts in the lead-up to the draft. The names I heard that were convincing were Jeff Skinner, Lucas Raymond and Kevin Fiala. I’d argue Demidov is better than them at the same age, though."

 

Pronman says a lot of stupid nonsense. 

 

I've seen numerous analysts discuss Demidov’s skating mechanics and I concluded it is not as bad as some say.  Most of it seems to be from Demidov's 1 skating tactic, which is unarguably unconventional.  i.e. he likes to do a heel kick maneuver - which looks odd and somewhat awkward.  However, when he does that move and kicks his heel he digs that blade into the ice and pushes off and instantly changes direction to the angel his other foot is pointing.  

 

Just because he is doing something novel doesn't mean its bad.  ex:  the 1st goalie to wear a mask was weird, 1st slapshot was weird, 1st slap pass was weird, etc.  In the identical sense that heel kick move isn't something Demidov should stop doing because nobody has seen it before.  

 

Honestly, I could see Hutson adopting Demidov's heel kick move into his repertoire and I imagine other players will adopt it as well.   

[Prime Minister Koivu]

WoooHoooo

 

[Colin]

Corey Pronman very clearly doesn’t watch the Habs, rather he makes his decisions based on what he hears from other people who don’t watch the Habs. 

[GHT120]

44 minutes ago, Colin said:

Corey Pronman very clearly doesn’t watch the Habs, rather he makes his decisions based on what he hears from other people who don’t watch the Habs. 

Not agreeing or disagreeing ... just wondering what this relates to.

[dlbalr]

2 minutes ago, GHT120 said:

Not agreeing or disagreeing ... just wondering what this relates to.

 

Look a couple of posts above his.

[GHT120]

1 minute ago, dlbalr said:

 

Look a couple of posts above his.

Thx