2024 draft, pick 5: Ivan Demidov

[hab29RETIRED]

7 minutes ago, Commandant said:

He's gonna score 100. 

That's what I'm hoping for. It's been a looooooong drought!

[Habsfan]

Other thing I was thinking about is just imagine the impact a guy like Demidov could potentially have on Dach's career! Dach could be a 60 point guy, but if he plays with a guy like Demidov, he could turn into a 75 point guy!!

 

I'm getting my panties all wet just thinking about the possibilities with Suzuki, Caufield, Slaf, Dach and Demidov.

[DON]

Ya ya , he hasnt even scored 1 point yet and already folks heaping huge expectations on the poor kid.

How will he handle the crazy media scrutiny next spring? 

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

1 hour ago, DON said:

Ya ya , he hasnt even scored 1 point yet and already folks heaping huge expectations on the poor kid.

How will he handle the crazy media scrutiny next spring? 

 

No doubt there will be high expectations but Demidov seems to have the personality to survive in a hockey crazy city like Montreal. 

[Commandant]

1 hour ago, DON said:

Ya ya , he hasnt even scored 1 point yet and already folks heaping huge expectations on the poor kid.

How will he handle the crazy media scrutiny next spring? 

 

I don't think he's reading the Habsworld Forums.

[Sir_Boagalott]

12 hours ago, Habsfan said:

Other thing I was thinking about is just imagine the impact a guy like Demidov could potentially have on Dach's career! Dach could be a 60 point guy, but if he plays with a guy like Demidov, he could turn into a 75 point guy!!

 

I'm getting my panties all wet just thinking about the possibilities with Suzuki, Caufield, Slaf, Dach and Demidov.

 

 

Unfortunately, we have no idea how good Dach is and we still haven't seen him play a full season yet.  Realistically, it took Suzuki numerous years to hit 30 goals and can he hit 40?  Insanely, Dach could be as good or better than Nick.  Dach could be an 80+ pts guy but with Demidov that might change to 100+ pts.  At the worst Demidov will be a 80 pts guy and he should easily hit 100 and possibly 120+ pts.  There is a chance that he is as good or better than Celebrini.   

[DON]

9 hours ago, Commandant said:

 

I don't think he's reading the Habsworld Forums.

At least Demidov has 99.99% (100%?) of Habfans approval starting out, unlike Slafkovski and Reinbacher.

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

9 minutes ago, DON said:

At least Demidov has 99.99% (100%?) of Habfans approval starting out, unlike Slafkovski and Reinbacher.

 

That is true. I don't recall anybody here being upset with the pick. Hopefully that's a good thing and he doesn't disappoint. The talent and attitude certainly seem to be there. What could go wrong??

[DON]

Demidov shift video for 1 game

 

Ivan Demidov Epic Game Scores a Beauty Series Winner in OT/Hattrick (3G/1A) Game 3 Highlight 3-26-24 (youtube.com)

 

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

9 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

 

That is true. I don't recall anybody here being upset with the pick. Hopefully that's a good thing and he doesn't disappoint. The talent and attitude certainly seem to be there. What could go wrong??

 

Ugh, I hate your last question. Lots can go wrong for an organization as snake bitten as this one has been. 

 

Still, as I’ve noted in the past, Demidov is the first Habs’ pick in FOREVER whom the experts have more or less unanimously hailed as an absolutely top-end, elite offensive talent. Commentators have used words like “star” and even “superstar.” All of our past picks since Wickenheiser have come with various caveats attached. Even Galchenyuk had missed a year of development due to injury, with some uncertainty as a result. The rest of the time, we get Reinbacher-style feedback: “oh, this kid will probably be a really good, all-around stud #2 D-man.” I mean…great, a useful, valuable piece for sure, but nothing like the language the experts are using for Demidov.

 

(A lot of this may be due to Timmins’ formula, which *seemed* to prioritize all-around solidity over top-end talent. But I’m speculating).

 

So I think excitement is very understandable. This never happens to us, LOL. So we’re pinching ourselves.

[Prime Minister Koivu]

I think we still need that bonafide, absolutely dominant, star Dman. 
 

We have a strong Dcore but it lacks that star. 
 

Perhaps Hutson is that star

[tomh009]

2 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

I think we still need that bonafide, absolutely dominant, star Dman.  We have a strong Dcore but it lacks that star. 
 

Perhaps Hutson is that star

Or Reinbacher. Both are very good, we just don't know yet exactly how good.

[DON]

13 hours ago, tomh009 said:

Or Reinbacher. Both are very good, we just don't know yet exactly how good.

Dont know if Reinbacher will be PP#2 QB or not, but adding Demidov & Hutson shouldnt hurt the PP one bit.

 

Cant remember when last year they had a solid PP, for last few years it has been hard to even watch it at times, just so dysfunctional it seems.

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

20 minutes ago, DON said:

Dont know if Reinbacher will be PP#2 QB or not, but adding Demidov & Hutson shouldnt hurt the PP one bit.

 

Cant remember when last year they had a solid PP, for last few years it has been hard to even watch it at times, just so dysfunctional it seems.

 

I could be wrong but I just don't see Reinbacher as QB on the power play. I see a good all around defensemen but not the elite puck skills required to be a QB. I think of the young kids that Hutson/Mailloux are much more likely to fill that role. 

[hab29RETIRED]

28 minutes ago, DON said:

Dont know if Reinbacher will be PP#2 QB or not, but adding Demidov & Hutson shouldnt hurt the PP one bit.

 

Cant remember when last year they had a solid PP, for last few years it has been hard to even watch it at times, just so dysfunctional it seems.

Habs PP has sucked since we lost the general. Hopefully, Hutson can be that guy.

[hab29RETIRED]

5 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

 

I could be wrong but I just don't see Reinbacher as QB on the power play. I see a good all around defensemen but not the elite puck skills required to be a QB. I think of the young kids that Hutson/Mailloux are much more likely to fill that role. 

aHitaon I agree. I see Mailloux having more of the Subban/Weber, shooter role. Hopefully, Hutson can be the new general controlling the play.

[IN THE HEARTS OF MEN]

The additions of Dach Hutson and Roy next year should help that 2nd PP unit immediately. 

 

Hutson will QB a unit almost certainly...

It's more a question who gets the one timers on each side of him.

 

 

 

 

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

4 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said:

I see Mailloux having more of the Subban/Weber, shooter role. Hopefully, Hutson can be the new general controlling the play.

 

That's the way I see it. Mailloux has a tremendous wrist/slap shot, very similar in a lot of ways to Evan Bouchard or Shea Weber. Huston will be the guy controlling the puck, bobbing and weaving trying to create some open space and finding the open guy. That's what I hope anyway. 

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

27 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

 

That's the way I see it. Mailloux has a tremendous wrist/slap shot, very similar in a lot of ways to Evan Bouchard or Shea Weber. Huston will be the guy controlling the puck, bobbing and weaving trying to create some open space and finding the open guy. That's what I hope anyway. 

 

That sounds extremely tantalizing. Of course it assumes that both can make the jump to being NHL regulars. I’m pretty sure Huston will; Mailloux is another question. 

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

 

That sounds extremely tantalizing. Of course it assumes that both can make the jump to being NHL regulars. I’m pretty sure Huston will; Mailloux is another question. 

 

Before Hutson played his last 2 games with the Habs I was more optimistic in Mailloux being an NHL regular. The last 2 games (small sample size) seemed to indicate that Hutson's offensive skills will translate to the NHL. I sure hope so. I really think Mailloux will be an NHL regular. He had an excellent season at the AHL level which was important for his development. His shooting is elite, puck handling is excellent and he is big and strong. Like any young defenseman, he needs to work on the defensive side of his game but that will come. 

[IN THE HEARTS OF MEN]

6 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

 

Before Hutson played his last 2 games with the Habs I was more optimistic in Mailloux being an NHL regular. The last 2 games (small sample size) seemed to indicate that Hutson's offensive skills will translate to the NHL. I sure hope so. I really think Mailloux will be an NHL regular. He had an excellent season at the AHL level which was important for his development. His shooting is elite, puck handling is excellent and he is big and strong. Like any young defenseman, he needs to work on the defensive side of his game but that will come. 

I think Mailloux is well on his way to being an NHL regular. The success of his first season in the pros was impressive, even more so missing a full year of junior development.

[Commandant]

I think he's on his way to being an NHL regular, either this season or in 2025-26 depending on camp.  Yes, he still needs work on his D, but I think he's an NHLer. 

 

The question is.... is he a 5/6, a 3/4, or a true number 1.   I'm don't think he's a number 1, and I could see him a second or third pair guy. 

 

I think the floor is Nathan Beaulieu.  What is the ceiling though. 

[IN THE HEARTS OF MEN]

I think Barron is sacrificed to make room for Mailloux and Reinbacher on the right as we transition into 2025/26.

[DON]

2 hours ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said:

Hutson will QB a unit almost certainly...

In Laval you mean, right?

[IN THE HEARTS OF MEN]

2 minutes ago, DON said:

In Laval you mean, right?

No Don, in the NHL....