GDT Game #6 Habs vs Islanders 7pm Oct 19 2024

[Prime Minister Koivu]

 

[TurdBurglar]

10 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

 

Dach and Newhook both have pass first mentality.  Armia isn't the best player to play with them, as he passes first as well.  Gallagher or Anderson would be better from the perspective of shooting, but both come with their own set of problems.

[GHT120]

15 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said:

Dach and Newhook both have pass first mentality.  Armia isn't the best player to play with them, as he passes first as well.  Gallagher or Anderson would be better from the perspective of shooting, but both come with their own set of problems.

I'd go with Kapanen or Heineman and order them to shoot-first or get moved down/out-of the lineup

[DON]

Interesting choices for the shootout by St Louis.

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

32 minutes ago, GHT120 said:

I'd go with Kapanen or Heineman and order them to shoot-first or get moved down/out-of the lineup

 

Heineman has no trouble shooting and he has an excellent shot, he might be worth a shot. 

[BCHabnut]

3 hours ago, Helmethead said:

 

my kid..(and me next to him)

That is bad ass!

[Commandant]

12 hours ago, GHT120 said:

AntiChambre "pundits", like sooo many others, are clickbait addicted ... if the players are impacted by "The Rebuild" then this rebuild is in SERIOUS trouble

 

The team being affected by a tv series is one of the dumbest things ive ever heard.  Stupidity on l'antichambre and stupidity on anyone who believes it's possible.

[Helmethead]

24 minutes ago, BCHabnut said:

That is bad ass!

You think that’s bad ass..

 

Get a load of this!

 

Security came up to me right before the game and asked if they could “borrow” my kid. 
 

 

[hab29RETIRED]

2 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

 

Need to make a change to that line!  Armia doesn't belong there. Also doesn't seem to be any chemistry between Dach and Newhook.

[hab29RETIRED]

2 hours ago, TurdBurglar said:

Dach and Newhook both have pass first mentality.  Armia isn't the best player to play with them, as he passes first as well.  Gallagher or Anderson would be better from the perspective of shooting, but both come with their own set of problems.

Hard no to Anderson. I want him waived. Let him rot in Laval.

[BCHabnut]

3 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said:

Hard no to Anderson. I want him waived. Let him rot in Laval.

I disagree. Not saying he's earning his contract. Or even half of it. But I wouldn't waive him. There's no star in Laval waiting to come up.  And I'm seeing changes in his defensive game. 

[IN THE HEARTS OF MEN]

Gally has been one of our best forwards to open the season. Yesterday, he was in on at least 3 minimum high danger scoring chances. Neither of those two are a problem playing in the bottom 6. Anderson taking a regular shift on PK, and the PK top #3 currently shows he's willing to pay the price and earn more ice.

Right now all the issues are scoring in the top 6 not named Caufield.

 

Ironically Slav is a PPG thus far and he's not even shown remotely his dominant play to end the season LY

 

Also finishing the biscuits Lane is serving, literally on platters would go a long way. The kid should have 10/15 helpers already! if we could score on 50% of the one timers and  open looks he is serving his teammates, it help substantially

 

Of course that is not factoring in

-last in shots for 

- last in shots against

- last in high danger shots against

And abysmal in face offs 

[DON]

Evans led forwards in icetime.

Evans & Armia 3 shots and good pass by Evans to Mailloux.

Caufield is hot, seemed so snakebit last year, is great to see.

Good for Primeau to have a good game, after the last outing.

10 Thoughts: Better, but not quite enough, as Habs fall to the Isles – HabsWorld.net

"Second Star: Cayden Primeau (36 shots, 33 saves, 0.917 save percentage, +0.13 GSAx) probably should have been able to stop the Palmieri goal near the end of the first period, but he stood his ground in the third period and in overtime as the Habs spent a total of eight minutes killing penalties. And six saves in the shootout is nothing to scoff at, either."

[GHT120]

9 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said:

Hard no to Anderson. I want him waived. Let him rot in Laval.

Can't agree with "waived" but I do not want him anywhere near the Top 6.

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

1 hour ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said:

Ironically Slav is a PPG thus far and he's not even shown remotely his dominant play to end the season LY

 

Also finishing the biscuits Lane is serving, literally on platters would go a long way. The kid should have 10/15 helpers already! if we could score on 50% of the one timers and  open looks he is serving his teammates, it help substantially

 

 

Agreed, one thing I have observed about Slaf is that he is an excellent passer and an unselfish player. Both great attributes and I can see him being a point per game guy over the season with a more consistent supporting group. 

 

Lane has been tremendous with the puck on his stick. Certainly the most positive aspect of the season so far, Caulfield being a goal per game so far is also great to see. 

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

6 hours ago, BCHabnut said:

I disagree. Not saying he's earning his contract. Or even half of it. But I wouldn't waive him. There's no star in Laval waiting to come up.  And I'm seeing changes in his defensive game. 

 

I agree, he has looked good on the PK where he is allowed to skate like hell at times without having to think too much. It's just a bad contract we will have to live with for a while, maybe next year a buyout might make sense. 

[Prime Minister Koivu]

Just now, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

Agreed, one thing I have observed about Slaf is that he is an excellent passer and an unselfish player. Both great attributes and I can see him being a point per game guy over the season with a more consistent supporting group. 

 

Lane has been tremendous with the puck on his stick. Certainly the most positive aspect of the season so far, Caulfield being a goal per game so far is also great to see. 

Lane needs finishers with him. He creates plays better than almost anyone but never shoots, he always passes. 
 

We need to start converting those passes or Hutson needs to learn to shoot. 
 

Hutson needs to be paired with a Dman with a good shot. I thought Mailloux was a good choice 👍 

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

1 minute ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

Lane needs finishers with him. He creates plays better than almost anyone but never shoots, he always passes. 
 

 

The Habs need more finishers?  Really?  That sounds like one of my Captain Obvious statements.  LOL

 

Yes, the Habs definitely need more guys that can score. A healthy Laine might have really helped. 

[GHT120]

Just now, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

I agree, he has looked good on the PK where he is allowed to skate like hell at times without having to think too much. It's just a bad contract we will have to live with for a while, maybe next year a buyout might make sense. 

My hope is that he will play well enough to trade for a player with similar, but lower AAV, bad contract who can fill a role (or more easily be moved)* ... ALSO ... entering next season the Habs will have all three retention slots available.

 

* - I always dream of a "one red paperclip" series of trades ... I also but lottery tickets

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

4 minutes ago, GHT120 said:

My hope is that he will play well enough to trade for a player with similar, but lower AAV, bad contract who can fill a role (or more easily be moved)* ... ALSO ... entering next season the Habs will have all three retention slots available.

 

* - I always dream of a "one red paperclip" series of trades ... I also but lottery tickets

 

Agreed, the only slim chance we have of moving him (without giving up a lot of assets) is that his performance improves. Maybe there is some gm out there who likes his skating and physical play and has a weak moment. Good point about the retention slots next year.  Like Gally, we are most likely stuck with him for a while. 

[DON]

During that 4 minutes shift, 'should' Kapanen simply of gone to get a stick at some point?

[GHT120]

14 minutes ago, DON said:

During that 4 minutes shift, 'should' Kapanen simply of gone to get a stick at some point?

I would say "no", since the bench was past centre and the puck never got anywhere near the far blueline ... if it had been a defenceman then it would have been incumbent on a forward to pass back theirs

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

2 hours ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said:

Gally has been one of our best forwards to open the season. Yesterday, he was in on at least 3 minimum high danger scoring chances. Neither of those two are a problem playing in the bottom 6. Anderson taking a regular shift on PK, and the PK top #3 currently shows he's willing to pay the price and earn more ice.

Right now all the issues are scoring in the top 6 not named Caufield.

 

Ironically Slav is a PPG thus far and he's not even shown remotely his dominant play to end the season LY

 

Also finishing the biscuits Lane is serving, literally on platters would go a long way. The kid should have 10/15 helpers already! if we could score on 50% of the one timers and  open looks he is serving his teammates, it help substantially

 

Of course that is not factoring in

-last in shots for 

- last in shots against

- last in high danger shots against

And abysmal in face offs 

 

Good call on Gally. 

 

I still don’t see the griping about the top line. We’re note seeing Grade-A Suzuki but he’s getting chances and generating stuff. Same with Slaf. Those guys are simply not the problem.

 

Anderson has been playing a lot better defensively this season. As others have said, I wouldn’t send him down until we have a better option.

 

There’s a lot of griping here, but I actually thought this game represented improvement. The team battled, we came back twice, Primeau played well (very important). And although the structure broke down too often, at least there was some structure to refer to for good chunks of the night.

 

Last year’s team was a spirited bunch that never quit. This was the first game this season where we’ve seen that same quality.  

 

 

[Prime Minister Koivu]

59 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

 

Good call on Gally. 

 

I still don’t see the griping about the top line. We’re note seeing Grade-A Suzuki but he’s getting chances and generating stuff. Same with Slaf. Those guys are simply not the problem.

 

Anderson has been playing a lot better defensively this season. As others have said, I wouldn’t send him down until we have a better option.

 

There’s a lot of griping here, but I actually thought this game represented improvement. The team battled, we came back twice, Primeau played well (very important). And although the structure broke down too often, at least there was some structure to refer to for good chunks of the night.

 

Last year’s team was a spirited bunch that never quit. This was the first game this season where we’ve seen that same quality.  

 

 

Advanced stats agree with you. 
 

One metric is heavily skewed by that 4 minutes debacle for Mailloux, Dvorak, Kapanen, Heineman. I’m not worried about it. 
 

When Hutson and Mailloux are on the ice the team plays extremely well defensively. Significantly better than average. 
 

When Struble and Savard are on the ice the team plays extremely poor defensively. Significantly worse than average. 
 

 

 

[GHT120]

17 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

When Hutson and Mailloux are on the ice the team plays extremely well defensively. Significantly better than average. 
 

When Struble and Savard are on the ice the team plays extremely poor defensively. Significantly worse than average. 

Since it was only one game shouldn't that be "played"?
"plays" infers a statistically relevant trend