TurdBurglar Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 10 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Thanks. They're a site known for outright making stuff up so I wouldn't put much stock in this one. That’s the catch-22 of rumour sites. They report fringe rumours for entertainment, or they try to be accurate and report very little. There really isn’t much in between. Even the more credible ones will report made up stories, like Seravalli’s Gibson rumour that sent Anaheim and Gibson into a PR tailspin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Well the five assumed to be under arrest leave New Jersey down a third line C and RHD (Savard and Monahan) Philly down a goalie (Hart) Cgy down a 3rd line C (Monahan) and meanwhile, Mrazek signed an extension in Chicago, so thats another goalie off the trade market. Seems a good day for our trade options.... and a bad day to be a rapist, and that's most important. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 8 minutes ago, Commandant said: Well the five assumed to be under arrest leave New Jersey down a third line C and RHD (Savard and Monahan) Philly down a goalie (Hart) Cgy down a 3rd line C (Monahan) and meanwhile, Mrazek signed an extension in Chicago, so thats another goalie off the trade market. Seems a good day for our trade options.... and a bad day to be a rapist, and that's most important. https://www.tsn.ca/hockey-canada/report-five-members-of-canada-s-2018-wjc-team-told-to-surrender-to-london-police-1.2066984 The TSN link for reference. It didn’t name any names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said: That’s the catch-22 of rumour sites. They report fringe rumours for entertainment, or they try to be accurate and report very little. There really isn’t much in between. Even the more credible ones will report made up stories, like Seravalli’s Gibson rumour that sent Anaheim and Gibson into a PR tailspin. Fair point but some sources of information are more reliable than others (ie. Friedman, Mckenzie etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 12 minutes ago, Commandant said: Well the five assumed to be under arrest leave New Jersey down a third line C and RHD (Savard and Monahan) Philly down a goalie (Hart) Cgy down a 3rd line C (Monahan) and meanwhile, Mrazek signed an extension in Chicago, so thats another goalie off the trade market. Seems a good day for our trade options.... and a bad day to be a rapist, and that's most important. Good points, I didn't realize Mrazek had resigned, good if you are selling a goalie for sure. Plus I think there will be some really tight races likely going down to the wire. In the East almost for sure Boston, Florida, Toronto, Rangers, Carolina and likely Tampa will be in. I expect Philly to slip a bit so the last 2 spots are wide open. Making the right deal could be a difference maker. In the West I think the last wild card spot will be the only one up for grabs as I expect LA to turn it around and be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 24 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said: That’s the catch-22 of rumour sites. They report fringe rumours for entertainment, or they try to be accurate and report very little. There really isn’t much in between. Even the more credible ones will report made up stories, like Seravalli’s Gibson rumour that sent Anaheim and Gibson into a PR tailspin. Believe me, I know it all too well with my time at PHR. We see lots of stuff come up and part of the job is tracing things back to see what the real report was and what's the extra spin that someone else is putting on it while determining which ones stem from made up reports (and there are a lot of those). 21 minutes ago, Commandant said: Philly down a goalie (Hart) They've recalled Cal Petersen to pair with Sam Ersson and still have Felix Sandstrom in the minors. I think they'll stick with what they have for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 40 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said: https://www.tsn.ca/hockey-canada/report-five-members-of-canada-s-2018-wjc-team-told-to-surrender-to-london-police-1.2066984 The TSN link for reference. It didn’t name any names. Dillon Dube, Carter Hart, Cal Foote, Michael McLeod and Alex Formenton (Switzerland) have all been announced as taking leaves of absence from their teams in the last 48 hours. Thats 5 members of the 2018 WJC team who all took LOAs at the same time this news report came out. I'm guessing they are the 5. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 30 minutes ago, dlbalr said: They've recalled Cal Petersen to pair with Sam Ersson and still have Felix Sandstrom in the minors. I think they'll stick with what they have for now. If they are serious about making the playoffs, Cal Peterson has been one of the NHL's worst goalies in recent years. Depends how much they want to capitalize on the surprising start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 44 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said: https://www.tsn.ca/hockey-canada/report-five-members-of-canada-s-2018-wjc-team-told-to-surrender-to-london-police-1.2066984 The TSN link for reference. It didn’t name any names. For those wondering, there is no statute of limitations on sexual assault in Canada. — Eric Macramalla (@EricMacramalla) January 24, 2024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, Commandant said: Depends how much they want to capitalize on the surprising start. And that is the key. I think Philly has surprised themselves this year and are still in rebuild mode. I don't think they see themselves as legitimate cup contenders so I don't think it makes sense for them to give up a good prospect/high pick to improve their situation in goal short term. However there are teams like the Devils, Penguins, Islanders etc. who have much higher expectations that might be willing to deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Commandant said: Cgy down a 3rd line C (Monahan) Remove conditions on the 2024 first and the lesser of the Flames/Panthers 2025 first????🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Remove conditions on the 2024 first and the lesser of the Flames/Panthers 2025 first????🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 That would be hilarious to see Monahan back in Calgary. I think the Flames are sellers at the deadline but funnier things have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 The thing is that even if Calgary doesn't want Monahan, they will likely go for another centre to replace Dube if they want to make the playoffs, same with New Jersey and McLeod who has a high faceoff % for them, and was taking lots of draws. They don't necessarily have to be the teams to trade with, the fact that they are in the market raises the price on centres, and the fact that Philly might enter the goalie market raises that demand too. In any event, its good for our player's trade values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 19 minutes ago, Commandant said: The thing is that even if Calgary doesn't want Monahan, they will likely go for another centre to replace Dube if they want to make the playoffs, same with New Jersey and McLeod who has a high faceoff % for them, and was taking lots of draws. They don't necessarily have to be the teams to trade with, the fact that they are in the market raises the price on centres, and the fact that Philly might enter the goalie market raises that demand too. In any event, its good for our player's trade values. That's true, it has a ripple effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: So Jovanovski and others farther back, not out of the woods yet. Hope they all pay the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 No statute of limitations, but reality is that the longer it takes to have charges, the harder it is to convict. This is just a general principle. Witnesses die or memories fade with time. Evidence is sometimes lost or no longer preserved with proper chain of custody that allows it to be used in court. Reasonable doubt grows with time. Etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 10 minutes ago, Commandant said: No statute of limitations, but reality is that the longer it takes to have charges, the harder it is to convict. This is just a general principle. Witnesses die or memories fade with time. Evidence is sometimes lost or no longer preserved with proper chain of custody that allows it to be used in court. Reasonable doubt grows with time. Etc.... Unfortunate ...but VERY true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 A couple of smaller rumour notes from people who aren't always right about these things... Habs rejected an offer of a young forward (former first-round pick) for Xhekaj: https://www.thefourthperiod.com/pagnotta/kings-reaching-breaking-point Paywalled but Kypreos reports the Habs aren't getting much interest in Allen at all and they are not willing to retain to move him: https://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/the-maple-leafs-find-themselves-in-a-familiar-place-maybe-this-nhl-trade-deadline-should/article_ad7ecb5c-b885-11ee-a787-879b981a4c41.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 39 minutes ago, dlbalr said: A couple of smaller rumour notes from people who aren't always right about these things... Habs rejected an offer of a young forward (former first-round pick) for Xhekaj: https://www.thefourthperiod.com/pagnotta/kings-reaching-breaking-point Paywalled but Kypreos reports the Habs aren't getting much interest in Allen at all and they are not willing to retain to move him: https://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/the-maple-leafs-find-themselves-in-a-familiar-place-maybe-this-nhl-trade-deadline-should/article_ad7ecb5c-b885-11ee-a787-879b981a4c41.html Clickbait30 suggested today that the kings might be looking to move Arthur Kaliyev, wonder if that was the rumoured player? In Clickbait30's context it was for Allen ... sadly, even if the LAKs were interested in Allen, as Kypreos and so many others suggest, HuGo won't want to retain salary and the only possible "bad" contract the Kings could move to make room is really Dubois. I expect that any deal for Allen will have to involve taking back a contract the trading partner doesn't want ... if the obstacle for another team is the contract AND they have a minimum $2-3M+ contract they want to get rid of, then Hughes could clear-out the logjam in the crease and also get some value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 29 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Clickbait30 suggested today that the kings might be looking to move Arthur Kaliyev, wonder if that was the rumoured player? In Clickbait30's context it was for Allen ... sadly, even if the LAKs were interested in Allen, as Kypreos and so many others suggest, HuGo won't want to retain salary and the only possible "bad" contract the Kings could move to make room is really Dubois. Kaliyev's name has been out there for the last week or so from more reputable ones as well. He wasn't a first-rounder though. Seems like he'd be the type of player they might look at though. I think Morgan Frost might be the speculated player in Pagnotta's report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, dlbalr said: A couple of smaller rumour notes from people who aren't always right about these things... Habs rejected an offer of a young forward (former first-round pick) for Xhekaj: https://www.thefourthperiod.com/pagnotta/kings-reaching-breaking-point Paywalled but Kypreos reports the Habs aren't getting much interest in Allen at all and they are not willing to retain to move him: https://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/the-maple-leafs-find-themselves-in-a-familiar-place-maybe-this-nhl-trade-deadline-should/article_ad7ecb5c-b885-11ee-a787-879b981a4c41.html I certainly don’t want another year of three goalie rotation. Allen only has one more year on his contract but it would suck to go through this next season as well. Hughes may not want to use a retention spot on Allen but is it better to keep him and try again next year? Maybe Primeau is more tradeable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 35 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Clickbait30 suggested today that the kings might be looking to move Arthur Kaliyev, wonder if that was the rumoured player? In Clickbait30's context it was for Allen ... sadly, even if the LAKs were interested in Allen, as Kypreos and so many others suggest, HuGo won't want to retain salary and the only possible "bad" contract the Kings could move to make room is really Dubois. I expect that any deal for Allen will have to involve taking back a contract the trading partner doesn't want ... if the obstacle for another team is the contract AND they have a minimum $2-3M+ contract they want to get rid of, then Hughes could clear-out the logjam in the crease and also get some value. I know PLD is struggling this season and if this continues then his contract is an albatross but if the offer was PLD for Allen I would seriously consider it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 10 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: I know PLD is struggling this season and if this continues then his contract is an albatross but if the offer was PLD for Allen I would seriously consider it. I would also hope that HuGo etr al would seriously consider it ... OBVIOUSLY it would depend on their assessment of PLD as a person and a player, as well as what is going wrong in LA ... we can all speculate but none of us know enough to really know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 40 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Kaliyev's name has been out there for the last week or so from more reputable ones as well. He wasn't a first-rounder though. Seems like he'd be the type of player they might look at though. I think Morgan Frost might be the speculated player in Pagnotta's report. He wasn't a 1st but pretty close (33rd overall), could be Frost but not a chance I would trade Arber 1 for 1 for either of those players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Hughes may not want to use a retention spot on Allen but is it better to keep him and try again next year? I think he's willing to use a retention slot on him next year if it comes to it. If they need to retain on Monahan to maximize his return, they have to hold that final slot for him. Next year, that one would be off the books as would Edmundson's, making it more palatable to retain on Allen at that time. It's not necessarily worth taking a small return on a retained Allen if it lowers the return for Monahan as at full price, there are contenders that couldn't afford him. But if they retain on Monahan now and retain on Allen in the offseason, they get the best of both worlds potentially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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