DON Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Although Leblanc has probably earned it, I hope not. Today is Hamilton's 3rd game in less than 48 hours. If Leblanc plays it and then gets recalled, they're asking him to play 4-in-4 or 5-in-5 which is too much. Holland hasn't played much which is why I guess they're comfortable sending him down for today but I assume he'll be back tomorrow (even though that will put him into a 3-in-3 or 4-in-4 situation). If someone is a surprise scratch for Hamilton today up front, that might signal who they're calling. I just assumed Leblanc wouldn't play today, 3 in 4 days and likely would get limited minutes tomorrow anyways. But I hadn't thought would demote and recall that soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Diaz got his bell rung against glass yesterday, I think 2nd game in a row he went down hard. Almost seems inevitable (specially taking hits like Marleau's) he will be out concussed again and maybe sooner than later? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Apparently Montreal had scouts in Minnesota when they played Carolina last week. I wonder who they were looking at. Niederreiter could be a good fit. Coming off a good year in the A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Apparently Montreal had scouts in Minnesota when they played Carolina last week. I wonder who they were looking at. Niederreiter could be a good fit. Coming off a good year in the A. Or they were doing advanced scouting since the Habs are in Minny on Friday night. That would be my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Or they were doing advanced scouting since the Habs are in Minny on Friday night. That would be my guess. Quite possible. Over a week in advance though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Quite possible. Over a week in advance though? It's advanced scouting, you need to see a few games worth if you're actually going to get anything from it. It's not uncommon for scouts to be out 2-3 weeks ahead of an upcoming opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Scouts also look at players sometimes just to look at players and keep the database of the NHL up to date. It doesn't mean anything is imminent. If nothing is really on the front burner they still have to scout, and just keep on top of the players in the league and how they are improving or not improving for future deals, or for offseason acquisitions, or whatever. Sure plans change when a trade is being discussed and you might want to be more indepth on a guy you are looking at... but sometimes its good to have a book on guys in Minnesota/Carolina just to have a book if nothing is on the front burner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 It's advanced scouting, you need to see a few games worth if you're actually going to get anything from it. It's not uncommon for scouts to be out 2-3 weeks ahead of an upcoming opponent. Yeah, that makes sence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 There are always reports of 'scouts from team x were in town, a trade must be coming!' which seem so foolish to me. Wouldn't they get their scouting information before trying to make a trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Did anyone catch Insider Trading on the TSN intermission tonight? I'm reading that Bob McKenzie said the Habs and Emelin are working towards a contract extension but I didn't see the segment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Did anyone catch Insider Trading on the TSN intermission tonight? I'm reading that Bob McKenzie said the Habs and Emelin are working towards a contract extension but I didn't see the segment. That's pretty much all that was mentioned. Emelin might be first in line for an extension even though he's injured and there are other big contracts needing renewal. I wonder what numbers they're looking at. 4 years /12-14 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Did anyone catch Insider Trading on the TSN intermission tonight? I'm reading that Bob McKenzie said the Habs and Emelin are working towards a contract extension but I didn't see the segment. Caught a bit of it and yes he said Emelin is likely first d-man to get done even though he is currently injured, but didn't hear if talks yet or much else? I hope so, you know what kind of player he is and you know the Habs want to keep him, so maybe can get a deal by signing while injured and risk he will come back 100%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 TFP states that MB will be opening talks with Subban soon. They expect roughly a doubling of his salary. I don't care about the number, honestly, I just want to hear that negos have started and the term is around 7 or 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Got to assume Subban gets $50-64m deal ($7-8m/year). Yemelin will get a raise, but how much ($4m/year-5 years?) Even if wanted to resign Markov, will there be room and what might he want, 2year @ current salary? If not, will create another hole in top 4, with the 2-3 kids filling 3rd pairing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Emelin will likely make less than or what Gorges makes. He won't get over $4M. I'd be surprised if he did. Markov might be asked to take a pay cut. I don't see Markov having an issue taking $4.5M-5M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I'm very happy to hear about the Subban contract negotiations getting underway. I want him signed by January 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Yep, he's a superstar. Pay through the nose, happily, and lock that puppy up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 If we get him for any number under 8 million a year it has to be a moderate success at this point. I know I'd much rather pay Subban 8 million a year than Kessel or Perry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I'll be amazed if it's under $8 mil myself. The contract will likely be met with horror in the blogosphere, especially among those who forget that the cap has risen every single year of its existence except when it was artificially delfated by a new CBA. The fact is, if you want superstar talent, you have to pay for it. The end. The real mistake lies in paying non-superstars superstar salaries; but I have no problem in opening the vault for Subban (notwithstanding Habs29's probably-valid point that we could have locked him up cheaply had MB not felt the need to set a precedent in dealing with RFAs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I'll be amazed if it's under $8 mil myself. The contract will likely be met with horror in the blogosphere, especially among those who forget that the cap has risen every single year of its existence except when it was artificially delfated by a new CBA. The fact is, if you want superstar talent, you have to pay for it. The end. The real mistake lies in paying non-superstars superstar salaries; but I have no problem in opening the vault for Subban (notwithstanding Habs29's probably-valid point that we could have locked him up cheaply had MB not felt the need to set a precedent in dealing with RFAs). He would be the first defenceman in the league making an average of $8M per season if he received that. His agent knows it as well. It's easy to argue for $7M+ for Subban since he's in that echelon of player. It's another thing to argue that he should become the highest paid defenceman in the whole league by average. Hence why TFP believe he'll get around $7.5M, which is double what he makes this season. Remember, Subban is still an RFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 6.5 million 7 or 8 years, book it ,remember where you heard it first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 He would be the first defenceman in the league making an average of $8M per season if he received that. His agent knows it as well. It's easy to argue for $7M+ for Subban since he's in that echelon of player. It's another thing to argue that he should become the highest paid defenceman in the whole league by average. Hence why TFP believe he'll get around $7.5M, which is double what he makes this season. Remember, Subban is still an RFA. Maybe you're right. To be honest, I forgot about that little RFA detail. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Maybe you're right. To be honest, I forgot about that little RFA detail. My bad. I wouldn't be surprised to see Subbans agent argue for a bridge to UFA deal to put on pressure. Offer to take around $6M but it only goes three years. Then again, everything I've read shows Subban wants to stay in Montreal. Especially if the rumors I got from a Detroit reporter about Subban rejecting offer sheets from Detroit and Philly last year are true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I wouldn't be surprised to see Subbans agent argue for a bridge to UFA deal to put on pressure. Offer to take around $6M but it only goes three years. Then again, everything I've read shows Subban wants to stay in Montreal. Especially if the rumors I got from a Detroit reporter about Subban rejecting offer sheets from Detroit and Philly last year are true. Why would Subban want another bridge contract. He's coming of a Norris year. His value is through the roof right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Why would Subban want another bridge contract. He's coming of a Norris year. His value is through the roof right now. Because the cap will be higher when he's a potential UFA. Also puts pressure on the team to give him the deal he wants now. As an RFA he loses leverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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