Commandant Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 http://www.habsworld.net/out.php?14584 Best drafting team of the last decade goes to - Montreal and Trevor Timmins. They better keep him around. "MONTREAL Sorry, can't explain this but the numbers don't lie. The Habs have the highest rating in the study. In 2003, they took six players who made the NHL. In 2005, they selected four more NHLers. In 2007, four more including Max Pacioretty and P.K. Subban. The high-end talent hasn't been there but the Habs have consistently found players. Average: .338. Slugging; .613. Grade; A-minus." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 A draft article i wrote http://lastwordonsports.com/2012/03/19/nhl-draft-2012-the-year-of-the-injury/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 Isles win, Oilers win. Good night for tanking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 http://www.habsworld.net/out.php?14584 Best drafting team of the last decade goes to - Montreal and Trevor Timmins. They better keep him around. "MONTREAL Sorry, can't explain this but the numbers don't lie. The Habs have the highest rating in the study. In 2003, they took six players who made the NHL. In 2005, they selected four more NHLers. In 2007, four more including Max Pacioretty and P.K. Subban. The high-end talent hasn't been there but the Habs have consistently found players. Average: .338. Slugging; .613. Grade; A-minus." well, the trading away of 2nd round picks and the 1st in 2008 (my biggest beef with Gauthier-Gainey, cept Ranger trade of course), as well as making the playoffs, put the odds of high end talent at very slim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 A draft article i wrote http://lastwordonspo...-of-the-injury/ well written sir. Even with injuries ignored, i think the lack of many top forwards gives the perception of weaker class maybe? Because there just wont be a Couturier type forward available at 8th for example. But the injury to Reilly is a perfect example of what you wrote about, he was described in the fall as the most game controlling d-man and now he is a bit of question mark due to knee, still a top ten now but likely to slip out of top ten on draft day i bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie Draft prospects Nail Yakupov (concussion/shoulder) and Alex Galchenyuk (bicep) are healthy and will be in Sarnia playoff lineup Fri nite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Nice that's is good for the kids and even better for the STING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 I hope the Sting win a round or two so Timmins can get a nice look at Galchenyuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I hope the Sting win a round or two so Timmins can get a nice look at Galchenyuk I would love for them and Belleville to play in the finals so I could catch a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 I would love for them and Belleville to play in the finals so I could catch a game. If they play London or Owen Sound I'll do the two hour drive for a weekend game. Kitchener or Guelph I'll do a weeknight. Those are all east conference. I was hoping they got Owen Sound first round but Saginaw is too far (5 hours one way) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 There's no doubt that Trevor Timmins and his group have done a good job of drafting good prospects. Where the Habs have faltered is when the time comes to get these kids ready for the NHL. The fault lies squarely on the shoulders of Bob Gainey and Pierre Gauthier. We draft good young players and then when the time comes to prep them for the NHL, we either screw it up or end up trading them too early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 I think the AHL development and that type of stuff is fine because the kids are making it from junior through the minors and up to the bigs and are learning all the way. The problem as you've said is a lack of patience when they get here. Kids have one rough season and we trade them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 There's no doubt that Trevor Timmins and his group have done a good job of drafting good prospects. Where the Habs have faltered is when the time comes to get these kids ready for the NHL. The fault lies squarely on the shoulders of Bob Gainey and Pierre Gauthier. We draft good young players and then when the time comes to prep them for the NHL, we either screw it up or end up trading them too early. Havent had too many get away that are even worth talking about, a couple digruntled eatern europeans who got a wake up call when each were traded for a bag of pucks and picked up their game when the KHL or flippin burgers at McDonalds were their only other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Tampa beats Edmonton in a shoot out which is a good result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Minny ties it with the flames pick up a point as it heads to OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Shoot out in minnny. All 4 of the first shooters stopped. Mikko backhand? Damn Mikko stopped. Harding stops Jones headed to extras, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Nice win by minny. Tank on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 Perfect results for the tank the last two nights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willey101 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Am I the only one who actually wants our new GM to part ways with the first round pick if we are selecting in the top 2? I am not convinced of yakupov or Grigorenko and would rather see the GM add another asset instead of selecting these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Am I the only one who actually wants our new GM to part ways with the first round pick if we are selecting in the top 2? I am not convinced of yakupov or Grigorenko and would rather see the GM add another asset instead of selecting these guys. It would depend on the type of player being given up but I wouldn't be entirely against it in the right deal. It appears already that this is Columbus' plan with the top pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Havent had too many get away that are even worth talking about, a couple digruntled eatern europeans who got a wake up call when each were traded for a bag of pucks and picked up their game when the KHL or flippin burgers at McDonalds were their only other options. Just off the top of my head, here are a couple of guys we gave up on too soon, or we traded away for nothing...Mcdonough, Latendresse, Ribeiro and Grabovski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 Am I the only one who actually wants our new GM to part ways with the first round pick if we are selecting in the top 2? I am not convinced of yakupov or Grigorenko and would rather see the GM add another asset instead of selecting these guys. Yakupov I'm 100% convinced of, he's gonna be a star in the league. He's head and shoulders the best player available, I take him and not think twice about it. Grigo is so close with Galchenyuk and Forsberg and the Dmen, that if you have question marks at number 2, just let Timmins pick whoever he likes best, and preferably a fwd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForumGhost Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I wonder what it would take for Columbus to swap their #1 with out (hopefully) #2... A young prospect with talent, ala Kristo? Maybe Diaz and one of our seconds? Am I being to hopeful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 I wonder what it would take for Columbus to swap their #1 with out (hopefully) #2... A young prospect with talent, ala Kristo? Maybe Diaz and one of our seconds? Am I being to hopeful? those actually sound about fair value based on the last time 1sts were swapped for 2nd overall/3rd overall picks. But that was also all pre-lockout and we haven't seen swaps since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Just off the top of my head, here are a couple of guys we gave up on too soon, or we traded away for nothing...Mcdonough, Latendresse, Ribeiro and Grabovski. D'Agostini for Palushaj COULD work out, but it's trading a sure thing for a possibility. I still believe the O'Byrne for Bournival swap was a good one. Letting Streit walk (and Carbo playing him at forward instead of ahead of a guy like Bouillon, making him want to try somewhere else anyways) when he could've been re-signed for cheap early in his UFA season was one of the dumbest moves this team has done in the past ten years. And Michael Ryder's bounceback was entirely predictable as well (considering he was being misused in 07/08), though he and Ribs weren't Timmins picks, it fits the pattern. Different discussion, but I've looked back on how that 07/08 roster was used and can't for the life of me figure out the logic behind it... they were winning but doing it the hard way (PP and goaltending carrying the team). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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