BCHabnut Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 The title says it all. I know we all want Ott or Neal or the equivilent, but a good 3rd liner that can figt is hard to find. From what I saw, Staubitz is a descent skater and does not play a risky game. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I think you need to sign 2 guys. 1) I'd go after Brandon Prust first. 2) Travis Moen 3) Aaron Asham 4) Gaustad Staubitz isn't a bad choice, but he's plan D or E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mineral Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I'd truly like to see the guy back next year as well. I don't think White alone changed that feeling on the team where they felt they could do their own thing without being muscled around. I'm more inclined to think Staubitz was responsible for that. He is clearly one of the better middleweights in the league and it's refreshing to see that after so many years of seeing our grinders get pummelled (with exception, to a degree, to Moen). But alas, Prust still has, for now, some decent hands. I mean he almost had a 30pt season last year. He's still popping 13 mins a game in the playoffs. Staubitz wouldn't be getting more than 4-5, at best. Prust will also come with a price tag which is fair, but Staubitz can be had for the league minimum. Regarding Gaustad, he IS a center, and is he really an enforcer? 4-5 fights per year on average. I mean he's great at face-offs and has lots of other intangibles including size, but i guess my point is we who know the top 3 centers on this team are, and i don't see him as #4. Was that his role in Nashville was? Sorry wasn't paying attention to that. I see Moen coming back. It was PG saying he was "part of the plans", so that's out the window, but we have a Chicago connection here too. Maybe MB has a like on him already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I believe that when the new coach gets here, and keeps the current staff of assistants, when they all sit down with Bergevin for a meeting, and the question comes up, "Should I make an offer to Staubitz?", if the new coach turns to Cunneyworth and says, "Well, should he?", then yes, Staubitz will be back. And as much as I hate wasting roster spots on enforcers, I don't actually feel like this would be a wasted roster spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Columbus has both Dorsett and Boll. Imo you get either of those guys and are better off than with Staubitz on your roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 If a high end fighter 3rd line depth guy a la Gaustad, Asham, Prust, Neal, Ott can't be had, I would bring him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Columbus has both Dorsett and Boll. Imo you get either of those guys and are better off than with Staubitz on your roster. Not if you want a guy who is actually capable of giving anyone a second thought about running one of your guys. Boll and Dorsett are both scrappy, but they're not very good fighters. I'd take a real fighter over Boll any day of the week. Dorsett can at least play a little two-way hockey in between getting beat up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKross Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Staubitz brings a respectability that we have not seen in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsy Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Staubitz brings a respectability that we have not seen in a long time. I agree. I also liked the teams reaction when he scored his only goal at the end of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I loved what Staubitz brought to the lineup and hope to have him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Not if you want a guy who is actually capable of giving anyone a second thought about running one of your guys. Boll and Dorsett are both scrappy, but they're not very good fighters. I'd take a real fighter over Boll any day of the week. Dorsett can at least play a little two-way hockey in between getting beat up. Yea, you're right about Boll. But I'd rather a player that can contribute in the bottom 6 like a Dorsett. He may not win a fight with the heavier guys but wont back down. Montrealers love that Kostopolous type character. Need guys with some dynamic. Staubitz can cycle and is mobile for his role but doesnt contribute much otherwise. But, I'd be happy with Staubitz as well as we've had little to compare to his abilities around here since Darren Langdon or Gino Odjick lol Besides Laraque cashing in on pacifism, of course. I'd welcome a defenseman like O'Brien that can be imposing and have forwards more suited to crashing, banging and going to the net more effectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKross Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I loved what Staubitz brought to the lineup and hope to have him back. Staubitz was not here to score, he was here to make room for those who can score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonhabs Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I think you need to sign 2 guys. 1) I'd go after Brandon Prust first. 2) Travis Moen 3) Aaron Asham 4) Gaustad Staubitz isn't a bad choice, but he's plan D or E. Any two of those would be great. I would like a allen or a carkner on the back end as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromage Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 staubitz is a third liner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbp Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 staubitz is a third liner? God no! He is barely a 4th liner most nights looking at minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blonde Demon Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 I can only answer this with one word..MEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForumGhost Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Fighters have been a dying breed for years. The only way to have a fighter in the new NHL is to have one who can play the game. I want a Goc type player or none at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Any two of those would be great. I would like a allen or a carkner on the back end as well. Allen sure, Carkner no. We need a 20 minute per game defencemen. Between Kaberle, Emelin, Diaz, and St. Denis, we have more than enough 3rd pairing defencemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted May 13, 2012 Author Share Posted May 13, 2012 Staubitz is a 4th liner for sure. I was saying that 3rd liners who can play and fight are hard to find. If we can't land a guy like that, would you keep Staubitz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Staubitz is a 4th liner for sure. I was saying that 3rd liners who can play and fight are hard to find. If we can't land a guy like that, would you keep Staubitz? Of course he is a 4th liner and he knows his role. He was surprisingly an OK skater and forechecker; but he seems very good at what he does well. And if he only sees 5-6minutes/game i think that would be fine with him and 4th liners are lucky to get 10 minutes/game anyways, so if double shift a forward a couple times/game is insignificant. The smaller players seem to be quite happy to have him and he would be a lot cheaper and better skater than BGL, so i would sign him to 2 way contract if possible? If Ian Shultz can improve and train hard he may squeeze him out, but he hasnt yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 KEEP HIM! He's a fourth line guy, a good team mate and a v-e-r-y good fighter. He might not be Parros or John Scott but he's gone with them. He'll fight anyone. We can't depend on White and Moen to hold down the fisticuffs. I'll admit, I haven't seen a lot of great hockey from him, but he stays out of the way. Do you want Staubitz, or Tom Pyatt? Staubitz, or Andreas Enqvist? Staubitz...or Aaron Palushaj? I would also like to see Gabriel Dumont on a line with White and Staubitz, Dumont, Staubitz and Geoffrion/Schultz playing 50 games a piece. Staubitz has beaten up these players: Zach Kassian Pierre Cedric Labrie Cody McCormick Just for the Canadiens, he also won decisions against Mike Brown and Zenon Kenopka. Shawn Thornton is no match for Staubitz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I thought Staubitz was a really nice addition as a role-player and I'm slightly surprised he didn't win more support around here. Commandant's list is interesting, but I don't see Stuabitz and Moen as interchangeable at all (Moen is a better player and a worse fighter). Prust, Gaustad and Asham would all be good too - but will they be as cheap? I dunno, I just liked what I saw of Staubitz. Sign him cheap and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I thought Staubitz was a really nice addition as a role-player and I'm slightly surprised he didn't win more support around here. Commandant's list is interesting, but I don't see Stuabitz and Moen as interchangeable at all (Moen is a better player and a worse fighter). Prust, Gaustad and Asham would all be good too - but will they be as cheap? I dunno, I just liked what I saw of Staubitz. Sign him cheap and move on. Konopka will also be a free agent. Konopka or Staubitz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Konopka will also be a free agent. Konopka or Staubitz? Staubitz. Konopka takes too many minor penalties, and gets you in trouble that way. One of the worst for Minor Penalties (non-coincidental) per minute of ice time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonhabs Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I would take Konopka good on the draw, very tough and and a little crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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