Commandant Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Might as well start the thread. As is tradition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 After Bergevin gets fired ... whatever YY/MM/DD that is ... I think that DD is MB's last hire, unless this leads to a Cup or a string of deep playoff runs ... in which case MB gets one more bullet in his coaching holster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 yeeee Ha! Cowboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 I'd say right after Vigneault gets canned. Then Ducharme can go on to get rehired by us a coaching change or two later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Tonight (joking)? Like I said many times. Julien is a only part of the problem. Need to address the D, the PK and Price has to start making big saves when they are needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanfan Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 When Carey Price decides he wants him gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 About Ducharme, can we not use DD on this message board ? I read David Desharnais all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 I will be very curious to see how Ducharme handles the Price Problem. It is an absolute bomb for a coach, especially a new coach. If he starts playing Allen more, he risks getting Price mad at him. And if Price turns on him, the entire room may well follow, since Price is Alpha Male #1 in that room. In which case, Ducharme will be gone at year’s end. If he keeps playing Price and Price does not improve, then the team spirals like it did in 2012. In which case, Ducharme will likely be gone at year’s end. I wonder if Ducharme should have meetings with each player individually. The REAL aim of such meetings could be to suss out how the leadership group (especially Weber and Gally) feel about Price’s play and whether they would support the coach in going with Allen for a while. Of course, you don’t say this out loud, but like a lot of tricky “leadership” conversations, that would be the intent. If the prestige vets on the team are prepared to side with you over a possibly-PO’d Price, then you give Carey one more game to stop playing like Andre Racicot, and then flip over to Allen as the go-to “so that Carey can work on a few things in his game.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: ... I wonder if Ducharme should have meetings with each player individually. The REAL aim of such meetings could be to suss out how the leadership group (especially Weber and Gally) feel about Price’s play and whether they would support the coach in going with Allen for a while ... I think the meetings would be a good regardless ... no reason to focus on Price ... but it would have to be part Most important might be a frank discussion with Carey to see what he feels he needs to get his <<stuff>> together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 12 hours ago, titanfan said: When Carey Price decides he wants him gone. I’ve started referring to him as “Dom” to avoid co fusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pino10 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 21 hours ago, titanfan said: When Carey Price decides he wants him gone. So true and judging by last night, I say and hope we have a new GM, new coaching staff and new scouting staff in place by the start of next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, Pino10 said: So true and judging by last night, I say and hope we have a new GM, new coaching staff and new scouting staff in place by the start of next year. Dude. It's one game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 I believe he should be fired right after the team gives up a 3-1 lead to lose 6-3. I hear Julien is on the market, maybe we can get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Not sure where to put this, but this is an interesting analysis: https://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/nhl/hockey-inside-out/by-the-numbers-canadiens-identity-a-riddle-wrapped-in-an-enigma?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1614423946 Basically, the Habs are extraordinarily good, league-beatingly good, 5-on-5, and absolutely horrible on special teams. What is so frustrating is that, despite this fact, we draw THE highest proportion of penalties of any team. We are playing into our own greatest weaknesses every time we take a dumb penalty. Which is what Habs29 was afraid of all along with this group. (I can’t resist adding, though, that our identity as the league’s most disproportionately penalized team aligns worrisomely with the preposterous Gallagher disallowed goal against Ottawa, along with the permissive attitude toward multiple headshots against our players. Knowing how the NHL works - “justice” being defined by arbitrary preferences about players, coaches/managers, and owners - I think it is reasonable to ask whether there is indeed a bias against this team at the level of officiating and NHL discipline). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: ... Basically, the Habs are extraordinarily good, league-beatingly good, 5-on-5, and absolutely horrible on special teams. What is so frustrating is that, despite this fact, we draw THE highest proportion of penalties of any team. We are playing into our own greatest weaknesses every time we take a dumb penalty. Which is what Habs29 was afraid of all along with this group ... You don't want too many cooks in the kitchen but there is no limit on consultants ... there must be some experienced PK and PP "savants" out there that could offer some suggestions for the coaches to consider ... or ... is it really just the players that can't/won't execute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I have to say I’m not impressed with DD so far. To me he is simply trying to be Julien. Same absurd defensive posture in OT. Who starts overtime with defensive players? Try to win ffs If Danault can no longer play an offensive role like Gomez why the hell do we keep using him that way? KK dangerous, pair him with defensive players, Danault not dangerous, pair him with offensive players! That is dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Four days really isn’t enough to change the way a team plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, tomh009 said: Four days really isn’t enough to change the way a team plays. True it is plenty of time though to stop putting out a defensive line in overtime. Every other team puts out speed and scoring power. We put out Danault, Armia, Petry Are you frigging kidding me? That is Julien 101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: True it is plenty of time though to stop putting out a defensive line in overtime. Every other team puts out speed and scoring power. We put out Danault, Armia, Petry Are you frigging kidding me? That is Julien 101 True ... if the opposition starting three forwards is a concern then start KK or Suzuki with your two best skating defencemen (Petry and Romanov) ... then switch to a more normal alignment ... but I see njo reason for Danault to be out in O/T ... except perhaps a D-zone face-off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Frankly screw the faceoff Suzuki - KK - Anderson/Toffoli Speed and power to end it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Just now, Prime Minister Koivu said: Frankly screw the faceoff Suzuki - KK - Anderson/Toffoli Speed and power to end it now Possession is super important at 3-on-3 so you can't just ignore the faceoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Just now, tomh009 said: Possession is super important at 3-on-3 so you can't just ignore the faceoff. Is the difference of 5% so important that you play Gomez instead of Suzuki? Stop trying to tie and GO SCORE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Is the difference of 5% so important that you play Gomez instead of Suzuki? Stop trying to tie and GO SCORE It's about a 9% difference in their average, season to date, between Danault and Suzuki. That translates to 53/100 probability Danault wins vs 44/100 probability Suzuki wins. So, the Habs would be 20% more likely to gain initial possession and have the first chance to score. Three on three, and only five minutes, it's big. If you win the faceoff, you can do a quick change (they did not do it yesterday). This, and the offensive-zone faceoffs on PP, is why we need to improve the kids' faceoff skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, tomh009 said: It's about a 9% difference in their average, season to date, between Danault and Suzuki. That translates to 53/100 probability Danault wins vs 44/100 probability Suzuki wins. So, the Habs would be 20% more likely to gain initial possession and have the first chance to score. Three on three, and only five minutes, it's big. If you win the faceoff, you can do a quick change (they did not do it yesterday). This, and the offensive-zone faceoffs on PP, is why we need to improve the kids' faceoff skills. That was clearly the intention but they lost then 3 average speed players are up against 3 beastly forwards. Every team comes with power we don’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 BRUTAL Danault has become Desharnais to this team. Hopefully I’m over reacting and this team figures out how to score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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