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Commandant Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 This sounds like LTIR and the team needs an immediate replacement. Throw all the moneys at Dougie Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 He also has to agree to change his name to Doug or Douglas I will not accept a grown man named Dougie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Not the way his career should end. 7 minutes ago, Commandant said: This sounds like LTIR and the team needs an immediate replacement. Throw all the moneys at Dougie Hamilton. Agreed ... Hamilton looks like the UFA option, MAYBE Tyson Barrie if MB looks more for a second pairing RHD ... as Carolina is apparently open to a trade might they be receptive to a pre-Kraken-list deal to optimize their protected list resources ... but wouldn't be cheap ... MB's job just got a lot harder if this proves to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Commandant said: He also has to agree to change his name to Doug or Douglas I will not accept a grown man named Dougie It has always struck me as strange ... wonder if it is his choice or just what everyone calls him ... as for signing him, what if Dougie takes a "Keep His Name" discount? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 I'll pay the extra money for Douglas and throw in free museum tickets> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 *** IF *** Weber is looking at retiring ... wonder what Nashville would offer to take him back and be able to LTIR him rather than having to absorb the recapture penalty? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Wow. This changes things. At best, they can Kucherov him and at worst he's done. Wow again. And big implications of the expansion draft. Not protecting him means they definitely go 7-3 and protect Lehkonen and Evans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Just now, GHT120 said: *** IF *** Weber is looking at retiring ... wonder what Nashville would offer to take him back and be able to LTIR him rather than having to absorb the recapture penalty? Excellent thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, GHT120 said: *** IF *** Weber is looking at retiring ... wonder what Nashville would offer to take him back and be able to LTIR him rather than having to absorb the recapture penalty? He'd never retire if he's legit injured. From Weber's perspective... sign retirement papers = get no money. Go on LTIR = Collect the remaining millions on my contract via Molson or insurance. He has 12 million reasons (in actual cash) to sit on LTIR for 5 seasons ala Pronger, Savard, Hossa, etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Sounds like what happen to Petter Forsberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, Commandant said: He'd never retire if he's legit injured. From Weber's perspective... sign retirement papers = get no money. Go on LTIR = Collect the remaining millions on my contract via Molson or insurance. He has 12 million reasons (in actual cash) to sit on LTIR for 5 seasons ala Pronger, Savard, Hossa, etc.... 3/4 of that $12 million is over the next two seasons ... having only $3 million to forgo when he will have career earnings of $129M after 22/23 might make Nashville nervous enough to want to get him back so they can have direct contact with him to discourage retirement ... worth MB at least exploring IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, GHT120 said: 3/4 of that $12 million is over the next two seasons ... having only $3 million to forgo when he will have career earnings of $129M after 22/23 might make Nashville nervous enough to want to get him back so they can have direct contact with him to discourage retirement ... worth MB at least exploring IMO. They're not going to trade an asset to have a phone call with him. There's no reason for Weber to retire if his injury is ruled a career-ender so there's no reason for Nashville to even worry about the possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 If he is really done then the this might be a good thing long term for the habs. On the other hand, seeing how he stepped it up gave me hope he had one or two playoffs left in him… pulling a Tampa and having him miraculously get better for the playoffs would be interesting… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 33 minutes ago, Commandant said: He also has to agree to change his name to Doug or Douglas I will not accept a grown man named Dougie I hear ya Benjamin or is it Bennett? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, GHT120 said: 3/4 of that $12 million is over the next two seasons ... having only $3 million to forgo when he will have career earnings of $129M after 22/23 might make Nashville nervous enough to want to get him back so they can have direct contact with him to discourage retirement ... worth MB at least exploring IMO. Meh... 1 million per year to not play hockey and simply not sign a form to officially retire. Why would he give up that 3 million? Pronger didnt, Hossa didnt, Marc Savard, Brent Seabrook, Marian Gaborik, etc... etc... The only guy who retired with time left on his deal was Luongo and he had no injury. If Weber's injury is as bad as said, he'll have no problem getting a doctor to sign off on LTIR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 I threw together a quick write-up for this on the site (I'm covering PHR tonight so I couldn't dig too deep): http://www.habsworld.net/2021/07/shea-weber-could-miss-the-entire-2021-22-season/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, DON said: I hear ya Benjamin or is it Bennett? Ben is fine. If I start asking to be called Benny, then you can call for the straightjacket cause I've lost my mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Yikes. Makes his teammates consoling him at the end of game 5 make a lot more sense. Everyone must have known he was basically done. Obviously big changes coming this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 32 minutes ago, DON said: I hear ya Benjamin or is it Bennett? Is that you, Donnie Boy? 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Well latest reports are he is being exposed to the draft and out “for the season”…. Maybe the habs are being smart… let me take the year to have surgery and heal… no one will take him.. if he is better then he can miraculously come back for the playoffs… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Commandant said: This sounds like LTIR and the team needs an immediate replacement. Throw all the moneys at Dougie Hamilton. If it's a career-ender, Hamilton would be viable. If they think he comes back after a year, I wonder if they'd be more inclined to see if Tyson Barrie is open to another one-year deal and just do what Edmonton did with him this past season where they used him as the one-year stopgap for Klefbom's expected return (which, as it turns out, isn't happening). Otherwise, if they were to sign Hamilton and Weber returns down the road, you're looking at too much cap money on defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 The Habs are going to out Tampa with Tampa moves. Price next? Both magically perfect for the playoffs 🥳👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 54 minutes ago, Commandant said: Ben is fine. If I start asking to be called Benny, then you can call for the straightjacket cause I've lost my mind. Will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Wow, this is huge. What a drag for Weber. And it underscores how positively heroic his playoff run was - he should not have been out there at all, yet he was eating 25 hard minutes every night. The only silver lining here is that it forces the Habs to do something they would probably not otherwise have done, i.e., accept that Weber cannot be the cornerstone of the D any more. What I don’t like - apart from the ordeal this remarkable athlete is facing, of course - is the uncertainty. He “may” miss the season. Well, will he or won’t he? He has a history of returning early; what if we bring in Hamilton and then come late February the captain wants back in? Hello, cap hell. Exposing him in the expansion draft is a no-brainer, but we’ll need to know what to do before UFA season starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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