Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 10 Author Share Posted May 10 14 hours ago, Dalhabs said: Worst case Josh Anderson? Best case Tkachuck? If you are discussing Cayden Lindstrom I wouldn't compare him with Anderson other than being both big and fast. Josh Anderson's best year in junior was 27 goals (never been a big goal scorer) while Lindstrom scored 27 goals in 32 games while still being 17. Much more skilled with the puck. I think the worst case is much higher than Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 2 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: If you are discussing Cayden Lindstrom I wouldn't compare him with Anderson other than being both big and fast. Josh Anderson's best year in junior was 27 goals (never been a big goal scorer) while Lindstrom scored 27 goals in 32 games while still being 17. Much more skilled with the puck. I think the worst case is much higher than Anderson. Worst case for any prospect not named McDavid or Bedard is a player whose game doesnt translate and he becomes ineffective at the NHL level. Thats not just lindstrom, its everyone in the draft. Worst case is WORST case and we have seen more highly touted players like Daigle, Yakupov, Galchenyuk, quickly find themselves outside the league. Not saying thats my projection on Lindstrom, just saying that busting is a worst case for all these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 10 Author Share Posted May 10 38 minutes ago, Commandant said: Not saying thats my projection on Lindstrom, just saying that busting is a worst case for all these guys. Sure, there is no guarantee, almost any prospect can bust. Just making the point that so far, Lindstrom has shown far more offensive upside than Anderson ever did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Catton reminds me of the 2022 pick Habs passed on for Owen Beck, Jagger Firkus (too small?). A guy who can simply score alot... in the WHL at the junior level at least. Again yesterday Firkus was 1st star and led MJ to 2nd easy win in finals, leading WHL playoff scoring, with 14g 31pts in 18 playoff games. Yakemchuk seems Shae Weber-like; physical RH d-man, can score and big shot. 7. Ottawa Senators: Carter Yakemchuk, RD, Calgary Hitmen (WHL) Something just feels right to me about Carter Yakemchuk landing with the Ottawa Senators but I just can’t place it. Is it that they don’t have a whole lot of talent in their prospect pool and he represents a home-run swing on talent? Maybe. Is it him becoming the first draft-eligible WHL defender to score 30 goals in a season in over 20 years? Maybe. Is it his large frame, penchant for violence and 120 penalty minutes in just over 60 games? Oh, I think I found it! 2024 NHL Mock Draft: Horn’s Mock Draft 2.0 - The Hockey Writers - - NHL News, Analysis & More Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 2 hours ago, DON said: Catton reminds me of the 2022 pick Habs passed on for Owen Beck, Jagger Firkus (too small?). A guy who can simply score alot... in the WHL at the junior level at least. Again yesterday Firkus was 1st star and led MJ to 2nd easy win in finals, leading WHL playoff scoring, with 14g 31pts in 18 playoff games. Yakemchuk seems Shae Weber-like; physical RH d-man, can score and big shot. 7. Ottawa Senators: Carter Yakemchuk, RD, Calgary Hitmen (WHL) Something just feels right to me about Carter Yakemchuk landing with the Ottawa Senators but I just can’t place it. Is it that they don’t have a whole lot of talent in their prospect pool and he represents a home-run swing on talent? Maybe. Is it him becoming the first draft-eligible WHL defender to score 30 goals in a season in over 20 years? Maybe. Is it his large frame, penchant for violence and 120 penalty minutes in just over 60 games? Oh, I think I found it! 2024 NHL Mock Draft: Horn’s Mock Draft 2.0 - The Hockey Writers - - NHL News, Analysis & More These players are definitely boom or bust. On the one hand you have your Mitch Marners, on the other you have your Vitali Abramovs. As for the Habs this year, for some reason I can’t shake the feeling Iginla is going to be a Hab. Some combo in the top 4 picks take Celebrini, Levshunov, Demidov and Lindstrom off the board, leaving Habs with a choice of remaining top forwards Iginla, Eiserman, or Catton. I think they go with the guy who has developed a reputation for heart/determination + skill; Iginla. I simply don’t see them taking a LD, unless they deem Buium, Dickinson or Silayev a bonfide #1. less likely, the RD options are Parehk and Yakemchuk, but I think the Habs go forward over them. IF Levshunov slips to 5, maybe they go with him. at the end of the day, something is telling me it’ll be Iginla. And frankly, I’d be really excited to see him in a Habs sweater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 59 minutes ago, Meller93 said: As for the Habs this year, for some reason I can’t shake the feeling Iginla is going to be a Hab. Some combo in the top 4 picks take Celebrini, Levshunov, Demidov and Lindstrom off the board, leaving Habs with a choice of remaining top forwards Iginla, Eiserman, or Catton. I think they go with the guy who has developed a reputation for heart/determination + skill; Iginla. I simply don’t see them taking a LD, unless they deem Buium, Dickinson or Silayev a bonfide #1. less likely, the RD options are Parehk and Yakemchuk, but I think the Habs go forward over them. IF Levshunov slips to 5, maybe they go with him. at the end of the day, something is telling me it’ll be Iginla. And frankly, I’d be really excited to see him in a Habs sweater. I agree with your assessment. I think we all agree the Habs need an elite forward. I think if Demidov or Lindstrom are gone then the forward grouping is likely Iginla, Catton, (I would include Helenius as I like his skill set, IQ, work ethic) and probably Eiserman and maybe Sennecke. I am not as sold on Eiserman although I recognize his goal scoring ability, not sold on the other parts of his game, seems to be a selfish player but he is also one of the youngest guys in the draft so there is room to mature. I think the obvious team to trade up with is Anaheim. That would insure they get one of Demidov/Lindstrom (I am assuming they are targeting one of those guys). Not sure what the cost is to move up 2 spots. I think Anaheim would like a RD and they can likely get that at 5 anyway. I think we need to move ahead of Columbus to get either Demidov/Lindstrom. If we stay at 5 then I also think we may end with Iginla. I think he will be a 30 goal plus scorer at the NHL level, he has really developed nicely, had an excellent playoff and finished 5th in scoring at u18, a lot to like there. Plus (like Eiserman) he is one of the youngest guys in the draft so there he hasn't had as much time to develop as some of the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 27 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: ... he is one of the youngest guys in the draft so there he hasn't had as much time to develop as some of the others. An oft overlooked factor come draft time ... THEORETICALLY, all other factors being equal, if two players are ranked "the same" the MUCH younger player could/should have more upside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 8 minutes ago, GHT120 said: An oft overlooked factor come draft time ... THEORETICALLY, all other factors being equal, if two players are ranked "the same" the younger player could/should have more upside That's the way I look at it. At this age 6 or 8 months of development can make a big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Lindstrom is falling from everything I'm hearing. Don't be surprised if he's outside the top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 15 minutes ago, Commandant said: Lindstrom is falling from everything I'm hearing. Don't be surprised if he's outside the top 5. Do you think that's because of injury concerns, or other guys rising or maybe a little of both. Nothing surprises me. Well that's not true, I would be very surprised if Celebrini didn't go #1. After that, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 14 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Do you think that's because of injury concerns, or other guys rising or maybe a little of both. Nothing surprises me. Well that's not true, I would be very surprised if Celebrini didn't go #1. After that, who knows. Injuries and questions about his hockey IQ seem to be the two big things I'm hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 A Logan Cooley re-do perhaps? NHL Draft 2024 prospects ranking: Celebrini leads Pronman’s April list, Levshunov follows - The Athletic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Why Berkly Catton’s skating and work ethic make him one of the 2024 NHL Draft’s best - The Athletic (nytimes.com) Strong skating never hurts, pretty glowing write up on Catton. "NHL Central Scouting describes his game as follows: “A highly intelligent player that generates a lot of scoring chances and leads his team in scoring. Has excellent vision to go along with his high-end skill set. NHL skater with an explosive first step that allows him to evade checking and pull away from defenders. Plays an up-tempo game and is very clever at controlling the pace of the play while creating time and space to make plays." 2024 NHL Mock Draft: Levshunov to Blackhawks, Dickinson to Blue Jackets? How Round 1 will shake out - The Athletic (nytimes.com) Pronman has couple odd choices at 3/4 in mock draft, hope it plays out; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Nothing to do with anything but I’m bored. This guy was a great #5 pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just in case anyone needed a reminder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmethead Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 29 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Nothing to do with anything but I’m bored. This guy was a great #5 pick without a doubt. Still can’t believe he botched.. David David REIN-BA-CHER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 13 minutes ago, Helmethead said: without a doubt. Still can’t believe he botched.. David David REIN-BA-CHER Since you can see the future, can you share Friday's Lotto Max numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 35 minutes ago, Helmethead said: without a doubt. Still can’t believe he botched.. David David REIN-BA-CHER 20 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Since you can see the future, can you share Friday's Lotto Max numbers? People said the same things against Price. Hell there was a large percentage of Habs fans that wanted Halak over Price. One more cool pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: People said the same things against Price. Hell there was a large percentage of Habs fans that wanted Halak over Price. One more cool pic I Still say and will until my dying day, that I would have gone for Kopitar. We had two big franchise centres available to us - Getzlaf (that one hurts a LOT more), and passed on them. Price was no doubt a top 3 of his generation goalie, and I loved how he played and his general Cool Hand Luke demeanour. I just will never be on board with picking a goalie with a top 5, or even a top 10 pick. You can get a Franchise goalie with a latter round pick, but it is pretty rare with a centre. Damn Kreider blow our most legit chance at a cup (yeah, we went to the finals in the Canadian division season), but during Price’s MVP year we had a better team in front of him. It’s why I’d rather see the Dundon and the Canes move on, rather than Kreider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, hab29RETIRED said: I Still say and will until my dying day, that I would have gone for Kopitar. We had two big franchise centres available to us - Getzlaf (that one hurts a LOT more), and passed on them. Price was no doubt a top 3 of his generation goalie, and I loved how he played and his general Cool Hand Luke demeanour. I just will never be on board with picking a goalie with a top 5, or even a top 10 pick. You can get a Franchise goalie with a latter round pick, but it is pretty rare with a centre. Damn Kreider blow our most legit chance at a cup (yeah, we went to the finals in the Canadian division season), but during Price’s MVP year we had a better team in front of him. It’s why I’d rather see the Dundon and the Canes move on, rather than Kreider. Your reasoning is sound and quite possibly correct. Having Getzlaf for a decade would have been amazing and who knows if we could have won a cup with Halak in net and Getzlaf at centre. Still, goalies like Price are extremely rare. I can understand the concept of building from the back end out. Getzlaf would have been incredible but I’m not sad they drafted Price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmethead Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 5 hours ago, GHT120 said: Since you can see the future, can you share Friday's Lotto Max numbers? Not following you. How does my post have anything to do with seeing the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 7 minutes ago, Helmethead said: Not following you. How does my post have anything to do with seeing the future? Apologies ... just realized you were referencing Price's announcement, not the pick itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmethead Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 57 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Apologies ... just realized you were referencing Price's announcement, not the pick itself No issues. Was just confused. I was at the draft last year and got to hear that hot mess live. Man was it ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 4 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: Damn Kreider blow our most legit chance at a cup (yeah, we went to the finals in the Canadian division season), but during Price’s MVP year we had a better team in front of him. It’s why I’d rather see the Dundon and the Canes move on, rather than Kreider. I feel exactly the same way, no chance I can cheer for Kreider. I hope the Canes win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 7 hours ago, Helmethead said: without a doubt. Still can’t believe he botched.. David David REIN-BA-CHER 2 hours ago, GHT120 said: Apologies ... just realized you were referencing Price's announcement, not the pick itself 1 hour ago, Helmethead said: No issues. Was just confused. I was at the draft last year and got to hear that hot mess live. Man was it ugly. Yup sorry buddy I totally misread your post as well. You were making fun of Price fumbling Reinbacker’s name and not dissing the puck. Poor reading comprehension skills at work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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