hab29RETIRED Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, GNick said: Just signed Crosby doubt he's going. Karlsson or Letang could though. Would you take the Karlsson contract on to move from our first to around 5 in draft? They can probably ge more for Karlsson after they pay out his bonus to a team that doesn’t want to actually be at the cap floor in actual dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Karlsson might move but the main three (crosby, malkin, letang) i doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 3 hours ago, GNick said: Just signed Crosby doubt he's going. Unless he decides Pittsburgh will be so bad bad for the next 2-seasons (the term of his extension) that he doesn't want to stay ... but definitely his choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNick Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 17 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: They can probably ge more for Karlsson after they pay out his bonus to a team that doesn’t want to actually be at the cap floor in actual dollars. I think Pitt will trade their pick. Imagine they want to win now. With Crosby and Malkin. Habs could use Desnoyers or Frondell type. Don't have that top 2 center in system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 On 3/13/2025 at 9:22 AM, GNick said: Don't have that top 2 center in system Beck-Hage-Kapanen all could top out as bottom six centres or one of them could fit the bill down the road, who knows? Simply draft the best player no matter position. Add a LH or RH-d, winger or a centre and trade for a top six centre in off-season, which will be needed for next years playoffs (we hope) before any 2025 draft pick develops anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNick Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 11 hours ago, DON said: Beck-Hage-Kapanen all could top out as bottom six centres or one of them could fit the bill down the road, who knows? Simply draft the best player no matter position. Add a LH or RH-d, winger or a centre and trade for a top six centre in off-season, which will be needed for next years playoffs (we hope) before any 2025 draft pick develops anyways. You want to get the center. Shortage of them. Martin be good pick. Most prospects don't live up to expectations, you want depth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 You take the best player available. Your need today may not be your need when your first round pick is ready to play in the NHL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 hours ago, GNick said: You want to get the center. Shortage of them. Martin be good pick. Most prospects don't live up to expectations, you want depth Think the issue is that fans, and likely HuGo(?) want a legit 2C for next season (and at least 2-3 beyond) to help the team make progress next season ... unlikely to be a 2025 draftee ... MAYBE (???) Hagens if the Habs are in & win the lottery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 16 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Think the issue is that fans, and likely HuGo(?) want a legit 2C for next season (and at least 2-3 beyond) to help the team make progress next season ... unlikely to be a 2025 draftee ... MAYBE (???) Hagens if the Habs are in & win the lottery Just seems when a Habs GM goes out of his way to pick by position or size (or language), it often backfires. Maybe one reason been 'awhile' since a Hab rookie won the Calder? Or since 85-86 season since the Habs even had a top ten scorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 22 minutes ago, DON said: Just seems when a Habs GM goes out of his way to pick by position or size (or language), it often backfires. Agreed ... I was more thinking the 2025 first might more likely be part of a trade for a legit 2C for next season (and at least 2-3 beyond). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, GHT120 said: Agreed ... I was more thinking the 2025 first might more likely be part of a trade for a legit 2C for next season (and at least 2-3 beyond). Ya, not related. But for sure Hughes will try to make some kind of deals before or at draft. Just a target #2C seems hard to find. I imagine Suzuki would also just love to see them add a skilled top six centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 12 hours ago, GNick said: You want to get the center. Shortage of them. Martin be good pick. Most prospects don't live up to expectations, you want depth This type of thinking is why we drafted Kotkaniemi over Tkachuk. NEVER AGAIN!!! BPA always from here on out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 34 minutes ago, sbhatt said: This type of thinking is why we drafted Kotkaniemi over Tkachuk. NEVER AGAIN!!! BPA always from here on out. The right pick would have been Quinn Hughes as I said at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 27 minutes ago, Commandant said: The right pick would have been Quinn Hughes as I said at the time. Hughes definitely turned out to be the best player from that draft, but most scouts had Tkachuk higher, so Bergy and Co. could be forgiven for taking Tkachuk if they had. The insane Kotkaniemi pick...that's another story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 11 minutes ago, sbhatt said: Hughes definitely turned out to be the best player from that draft, but most scouts had Tkachuk higher, so Bergy and Co. could be forgiven for taking Tkachuk if they had. The insane Kotkaniemi pick...that's another story. The public scouting services consensus pick at 3 was Filip Zadina, who is even worse than KK. While i 100% say take best player available and not by position... i also say you take the player your scouts say is BPA and not just what the publicly available info says There is a reason you pay your scouts and they get paid a lot more than people writing public lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNick Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 11 hours ago, GHT120 said: Think the issue is that fans, and likely HuGo(?) want a legit 2C for next season (and at least 2-3 beyond) to help the team make progress next season ... unlikely to be a 2025 draftee ... MAYBE (???) Hagens if the Habs are in & win the lottery Odds of that are slim. I wouldn't depend on it. Been trying to acquire #2 center for generations now. Hasn't worked out. Other than Suzuki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Acquiring #2cs has been possible. Its getting the number 1 that was the issue. Koivu, Plekanec, Danault were all fine #2cs. We lacked the true #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 I think it's safe to say the Habs have a true #1 now, Suzuki is on pace for 80+ points and plays both ends of the ice. That was a ridiculous pass on the Newhook goal that was called back. Few players see the ice as well as Nick does. His no look passes are sensational. The Calgary pick is looking better all the time as Vancouver has now passed them and St. Louis and Utah are right behind. We need the Flames to just slip a bit but not fall apart. If the Flames go something like 7-10 or 8-9 in the their last 17 games, that would likely be perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 17 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: The Calgary pick is looking better all the time as Vancouver has now passed them and St. Louis and Utah are right behind. We need the Flames to just slip a bit but not fall apart. If the Flames go something like 7-10 or 8-9 in the their last 17 games, that would likely be perfect. It’s wild to me that Calgary’s pick is going to be in the 12-15 range and Montreal’s pick is going to be in the 25-32 range 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 16 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: It’s wild to me that Calgary’s pick is going to be in the 12-15 range and Montreal’s pick is going to be in the 25-32 range In a perfect world the Calgary pick is #11 and the Habs pick is 32. It's nice to dream a bit. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 5 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: It’s wild to me that Calgary’s pick is going to be in the 12-15 range and Montreal’s pick is going to be in the 25-32 range 25-32 ... your optimism is impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 minutes ago, GHT120 said: 25-32 ... your optimism is impressive We are making the playoffs and then causing damage 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: We are making the playoffs and then causing damage My "concern" is that if the Habs make the playoffs they will do it by playing with playoff intensity, while their first-round opponent will have room to "up their game". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 28 minutes ago, GHT120 said: My "concern" is that if the Habs make the playoffs they will do it by playing with playoff intensity, while their first-round opponent will have room to "up their game". Teams that have to fight to get into that last playoff spot are always dangerous. It's harder for other teams to just turn it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 17 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: It’s wild to me that Calgary’s pick is going to be in the 12-15 range and Montreal’s pick is going to be in the 25-32 range We won't pick in the 25-28 range. The Cup winner picks 32, the finals loser 31, and the conference finals losers 29-30. 25-28 are the regular-season division winners that did not make it to the conference finals; otherwise the rest of the playoff teams are ranked by regular-season results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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