Chris Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Every position in the top 6 and top 4 are glaring needs. Last year they traded a top D man prospect for a 15 goal scorer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I suppose the question is whether there is any prospect in that 3-7 range that projects as a top-liner or a top-pairing D-man. It doesn't *have* to be Zadina. But given that the Habs are presumably 'retooling,' not rebuilding, trading the pick to get back a young-ish player who fills one of our glaring needs could well make sense. It'll be interesting to see how MB plays it. I don't know what the right play is but I don't think taking Zadina at #3 is the best for us. I would rather trade the pick for an established player or prospect, or even trade down to grab a center and another pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGC21 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, illWill said: I don't know what the right play is but I don't think taking Zadina at #3 is the best for us. I would rather trade the pick for an established player or prospect, or even trade down to grab a center and another pick. It just seems silly to me to have won the 3rd pick of the draft lottery and then trade it because we don’t need it. We need elite prospects and this pick will get us one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, JGC21 said: It just seems silly to me to have won the 3rd pick of the draft lottery and then trade it because we don’t need it. We need elite prospects and this pick will get us one. I dunno, is Galchenyuk 'elite?' 3rd overall pick. It's hard to know because it would all depend on the return. But no one other yhan franchise players should be untouchable, and since nobody seems to think the #3 pick is a franchise player, trading the pick can't just be ruled out of court. We'd need to see more specific scenarios and proposals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, JGC21 said: It just seems silly to me to have won the 3rd pick of the draft lottery and then trade it because we don’t need it. We need elite prospects and this pick will get us one. It's not that we don't need a top prospect, it's just that I feel that this particular one isn't going to be that much of an improvement on our already clogged wing log jam. Perhaps another team will covet him more than us and we can get a young center or left handed dman instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 The talent gap between 3rd overall and 9th overall isn't huge. Good potential to be had but it's not like anyone is freaking out to get into that spot. Maybe someone offers a 2B centre to swap picks. About the best you'll get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGC21 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I dunno, is Galchenyuk 'elite?' 3rd overall pick. It's hard to know because it would all depend on the return. But no one other yhan franchise players should be untouchable, and since nobody seems to think the #3 pick is a franchise player, trading the pick can't just be ruled out of court. We'd need to see more specific scenarios and proposals. Galchenyuk was the best player taken in the top 3 that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, JGC21 said: Galchenyuk was the best player taken in the top 3 that year. I was going to comment on this but then read top 3 that year.....you almost had me ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 If we draft Zadina I want Pleky back also so our top prospect will have a veteran fellow countryman who is also great defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Just one of Zadina highlights youtube; 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 You don't trade a top 3 pick for immediate help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 33 minutes ago, Commandant said: You don't trade a top 3 pick for immediate help. I agree. You trade Patches for immediate help - even a solid #2 centre prospect (with picks or parts) to help now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott462 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 hour ago, DON said: Just one of Zadina highlights youtube; I actually like Zadina and think he will be a great NHL player. He has a tournament coming up this Friday should be interesting to see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 It's odd that the internet is full of the opinion that Zadina is nothing special so we may as well trade the pick away. The other common idea is that we use the 3rd to pick wahlstrom Common fear is that we pick tkachuk at 3rd The only way we don't pick Zadina at 3rd is if Carolina (lucky SOBs) pick him first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Svecnikov looks like an absolute beast. Too bad we didn't land that two spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 10 hours ago, JGC21 said: Galchenyuk was the best player taken in the top 3 that year. True. But while Galy is a good player, he's not really 'elite.' I bring it up to illustrate that even a well-chosen 3rd overall pick is not necessarily untouchable. But I have no strong opinion on this pick, other than to agree that, yes, trading Patches makes a lot more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepsi Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 I like the idea of trading #3. I don't like the idea of who is doing the trading. Keep it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 No way they should draft Wahlstrom, Top end players don't go to harvard period. Already made that mistake once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 You don't teach goal scoring or that release, Zadina looks pretty good to me, Quick release. That highlight rral has him scoring more goals than the habs this year. Why on earth do you bring back pleks to help Zadina, how many 4th liners does one team need. They should not have signed him to the last contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 51 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: It's odd that the internet is full of the opinion that Zadina is nothing special so we may as well trade the pick away. The other common idea is that we use the 3rd to pick wahlstrom Common fear is that we pick tkachuk at 3rd The only way we don't pick Zadina at 3rd is if Carolina (lucky SOBs) pick him first And Habs were lucky to be only other team to move up and not end up 5th/6th with couple fewer options to pick from and be in what many, like Bob McKenzie and Commandant call a 3rd tier of prospects in #4-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, DON said: And Habs were lucky to be only other team to move up and not end up 5th/6th with couple fewer options to pick from and be in what many, like Bob McKenzie and Commandant call a 3rd tier of prospects in #4-7. Poor Canucks. The fanbase here has been pummelled so many times it regards dropping down in the draft as an inevitability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 I have to admit that I was mad when Carolina moved up but cheered when Ottawa moved down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 As much as I easily take Svechnikov over Zadina, I’m not disappointed in our chance to draft him. I’m a little surprised and disheartened by the lack of enthusiasm I’m moving UP into the 3rd spot, clearly gaining a little value, and the opportunity to draft a player who is almost unanimously thought of as pick #3. The only way I trade the pick, is to include one of our seconds to move up in the draft and grab Scechnikov. Perhaps Carolina likes Zadina nearly as much as Svechnikov, and they do the second overall for the 3rd overall and maybe Chicago’s second rounder. I’m not sure what it would take. that being said, I think Zadina can be a 30 goal scorer in the NHL by 2020. Won’t be disappointed if we just take him at 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 One of Zadina's listed strengths is "character" so I'm pretty confident he is ours 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mineral Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 20 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Poor Canucks. The fanbase here has been pummelled so many times it regards dropping down in the draft as an inevitability Well, looks their prospect pool is starting to help them turn the corner. Boeser is a beast, and i think they also have a few other special players that could join in the next 1-2 years. On another note, i could see MB totally going for Tkachuk. Big body, power forward. Wonder though if his pedigree is upselling him at this stage. Watch Ottawa go with Zadina and burn us for the next 12 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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