thib46 Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Rumor has it Montreal's trading Saku Koivu for Patrick Traverse. You think San Jose makes that trade? It might have to be a cold day in San Jose for that to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAK Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Rumor has it Montreal's trading Saku Koivu for Patrick Traverse. I don,t think that the sharks are looking for centreman let alone a hard working one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 And Hell will freeze over tomorrow. No chance Chicago does that trade. Dunno where you live but it is -20C here today... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thib46 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Dunno where you live but it is -20C here today... I meant San Josee, but it is just +2 F here, so hell has not frozen over but it is working in that direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Apparantly Sundin has narrowed it down to 4 teams. The Habs being one of them. They will have to shed 3-5 million salary to sign him i think. Vancouver, Chicago, Rangers are the others. I wouldn't know how to comment unless it actually happens. He is a great player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 ok, we need someone like Brian to sort this out. MIGHTY BRIAN, I SUMMON YOU! I wanna know : how much we have under the cap. Who doesn't have a NTC, is expandable and would clear enough caproom to get Sundin to sign here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitforming Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 ok, we need someone like Brian to sort this out. MIGHTY BRIAN, I SUMMON YOU! I wanna know : how much we have under the cap. Who doesn't have a NTC, is expandable and would clear enough caproom to get Sundin to sign here. Sundin's contract is the deciding factor. Until we know the numbers it's all speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Sundin's contract is the deciding factor. Until we know the numbers it's all speculation. between $1M and $1G. If it's $1M, he wants Souray's mansion, souray's pimped up Muscle car and Souray's wife. If it's $1G, there is a "cup guarranty" clause at the bottom of the contract, in small letters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 If he decides to play for us, I don't see how he can expect enough money for a $3-5M cap hit. He'll be doing it knowing that he's sacrificing some money for a better chance at winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Gainey definitely has a plan at this point for how he'd fit in, but beyond regular roster adjustments, I honestly don't think he'd have to do a ton if Sundin signed for a $5.5m contract (or whatever his Toronto deal was last year). If he wants much higher, than it'd be something more significant. But role guys like Dandenault and Begin could potentially be all that's sacrificed, coupled with the demotion of some players like Sergei Kostitsyn and Ryan O'Byrne just to create the roster spot. It'd really make our callup list confusing, though. We'd probably try and call up more economically pleasing options like a Shawn Belle/Alex Henry or Greg Stewart as a forward. If it were a big contract, we might be talking jettisoning Alex Kovalev or something. But I don't think the Habs will be in the game if it is a big $8/$9m contract. It has to be $6m max. Remember that only a little over half that number is what would count against the cap, essentially. We've already played over 2 months, currently about 33% of the season is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 ok, we need someone like Brian to sort this out. MIGHTY BRIAN, I SUMMON YOU! I wanna know : how much we have under the cap. Who doesn't have a NTC, is expandable and would clear enough caproom to get Sundin to sign here. Streamer, allow me to introduce you to the thread that at this time is directly below this one, which contains all of the salary cap information, including what our projected remaining cap space at season's end is. Since I'm sure you won't want to look, the remaining cap space is $1,549,218.36. As for NTC's, I'll add that now...which will make this thread below the cap one... To answer about how much space would need to be cleared, you'd have to know for how much Sundin would sign for (to prorate it over the remaining of the season) and when he actually signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Getting to be same old answer. Saku, Lang, Laps, Pleks. Lang was signed this year, he finishes the year, I would think. Pleks and Laps combined don't free up space and neither are ufa's for abit. Saku does. He would be the centre leaving if Sundin signed. IMHO. Best was the idea that, Dandy, Begin, O'B and SK go to make room for one guy! Some short bench! Nope, has to be a centre, and a well paid one or it doesn't make sense. Either Lang or Saku would have to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Streamer, allow me to introduce you to the thread that at this time is directly below this one, which contains all of the salary cap information, including what our projected remaining cap space at season's end is. Since I'm sure you won't want to look, the remaining cap space is $1,549,218.36. As for NTC's, I'll add that now...which will make this thread below the cap one... To answer about how much space would need to be cleared, you'd have to know for how much Sundin would sign for (to prorate it over the remaining of the season) and when he actually signed. I was "THAT" close to looking... but you did it for me So, you think that Sundin would sign for $1,549,218.36 I used to list all the salaries... I don't have the energy anymore, thanks for doing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I was "THAT" close to looking... but you did it for me So, you think that Sundin would sign for $1,549,218.36 I used to list all the salaries... I don't have the energy anymore, thanks for doing it That's the old number; after the callups, it's much smaller, so you'll have to look now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 According to TSN, Montreal is seemingly out of the Sundin race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 He must want to go to a contender! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 According to TSN, Montreal is seemingly out of the Sundin race. Excellent. That way we'll be surprised when he signs with us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAK Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Excellent. That way we'll be surprised when he signs with us! Holding my breath until he does !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMPL Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 He won't be a habs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 http://canadiens.nhl.com/team/app?page=Pla...mp;service=page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 http://canadiens.nhl.com/team/app?page=Pla...mp;service=page An expired page has been activated on the Habs' website! Stop the presses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 An expired page has been activated on the Habs' website! Stop the presses! I thought it was amusing, anyhow. Denis Potvin is now speculating that Sundin will retire. Quiet rumours of some fella named Forsberg coming back next year. I suppose the Habs will be front and centre again. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I was surprised that we just vanished from the radar when everyone began talking NYR and Canuckleheads. I guess Bob was unwilling to do too much heavy lifting to fit Mats under the cap, or else Mats just wants to go to New York (or Vancouver??) and was decent enough to let us know that. Yet another high-profile UFA we come close to but never sign. Bah!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I was surprised that we just vanished from the radar when everyone began talking NYR and Canuckleheads. I guess Bob was unwilling to do too much heavy lifting to fit Mats under the cap, or else Mats just wants to go to New York (or Vancouver??) and was decent enough to let us know that. Yet another high-profile UFA we come close to but never sign. Bah!!! I wouldn't be surprised if Bob told him he didn't think it was as good of a fit anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if he decided on trying to get a d-man over Sundin for his remaining cap space. Chicago dropped out because they admitted they couldn't clear the space for him. The Rags can nickel and dime and make an offer for half the money Vancouver can. If Montreal's not involved, I expect it was Bob pulling out of the discussion and not Mats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zowpeb Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Sundin to the Canucks now...time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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