alfredoh2009 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I meant, he has had two leg injuries within a year I hope it is not a recurring thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, tomh009 said: Well, fractured, so it should not be a long-term concern. But, yes, done for the year. Sometimes a fracture is worse to heal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, alfredoh2009 said: I meant, he has had two leg injuries within a year I hope it is not a recurring thing You block a shot and have a fractured foot, I'm not sure what more there is to that then a freak occurence, one that befalls many NHLers who then come back fine. His previous injury was three weeks for an ankle. Doesn't seem to be serious either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Just concerned, Mete without his skating ability would be an AHLer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Is Tatar just Day to Day or it's more serious ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 Just now, JoeLassister said: Is Tatar just Day to Day or it's more serious ? Julien said it was precautionary that he didnt play after the isles game but we never got an update yesterday (i dont know if they had an off day) and vejdemo was called up on an emergency basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 9 hours ago, JoeLassister said: Is Tatar just Day to Day or it's more serious ? He was sent back to Montreal today for more evaluation so it's probably safe to rule him out for Saturday's game as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 KK has a spleen injury? Not sure what the spleen does, or how serious it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 My guess is that he’s gone for the season. https://www.sportsmedtoday.com/spleen-injuries-va-237.htm I do wonder what kind of check it was that caused the injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Forsberg took a big body check into and he had to have part of spleen removed back when he played with the AVS. I was also reading an article that MB and CJ threw him under the bus about his work ethic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Chris said: Forsberg took a big body check into and he had to have part of spleen removed back when he played with the AVS. I was also reading an article that MB and CJ threw him under the bus about his work ethic. That’s nothing new. It’s the players fault that they brought him up as an 18 year old and kept him in the NHL too long this year. I listened to that Travis Green podcast with Friedman and it was refreshing to hear a coach talk about an actual development plan for players. With Paterson they knew he wasn’t a very good face off guy and was struggling, but they were willing to live with his mistakes. They also didn’t bring him over until he was ready. and yes I know he got over 30 points last year, but yakapov also had a good rookie year and was in a 20 goal pace - but who’s did that work out for his long term development. with the habs it’s always the players fault - it’s not a poorly constructed rosters - both in Montreal and Laval. But yeah, the plan is to build through the draft and rush players in before they are ready. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sbhatt Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 KK being oft-injured is mostly Bergevin's fault IMO. You want someone who can step in and contribute in the NHL right away, you draft Tkachuk...not a beanpole that clearly needed 2 years of packing on muscle to be ready for the physicality of playing hockey with men. He should have spent another full season in Finland, playing in their much softer league while executing an eating and training plan given to him by the Canadiens' conditioning coach to prepare him for the AHL. After that, a full year in Laval, again executing a workout/nutrition regimen designed to get his body ready for the NHL. There are guys who are physically developed beyond their age who can jump right in after the draft, but clearly KK was not one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, sbhatt said: KK being oft-injured is mostly Bergevin's fault IMO. You want someone who can step in and contribute in the NHL right away, you draft Tkachuk...not a beanpole that clearly needed 2 years of packing on muscle to be ready for the physicality of playing hockey with men. He should have spent another full season in Finland, playing in their much softer league while executing an eating and training plan given to him by the Canadiens' conditioning coach to prepare him for the AHL. After that, a full year in Laval, again executing a workout/nutrition regimen designed to get his body ready for the NHL. There are guys who are physically developed beyond their age who can jump right in after the draft, but clearly KK was not one of them. Careful, you can’t blame MB for his obvious blunders or stupidity in this site without being ridiculed. After all it was KK’s fault that he didn’t put in the 20-30lba he should have as an 18 year old, - didn’t you hear management said it’s Kk fault because he’s lazy and has ooor practice habits. It was his fault he isn’t ready as a 19 year old. if Kk isn’t able to put it together, 3 years from now MB will be saying he wanted to pick Tkachuk or Hughes, but he went with his scouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 15 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: But yeah, the plan is to build through the draft and rush players in before they are ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Just now, DON said: Better be ham being don, who loves losing and cheering on a team whose only plan is hope that they get lucky. Because like bergevin said drafting and development is all about luck. And younhavebtinbuokdntheiughbthendradtr because it’s soooooo hard to make a trade - especially for a centre. And when you draft a e, you should teach him how to play centre on the wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share Posted March 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: Better be ham being don, who loves losing and cheering on a team whose only plan is hope that they get lucky. Because like bergevin said drafting and development is all about luck. And younhavebtinbuokdntheiughbthendradtr because it’s soooooo hard to make a trade - especially for a centre. And when you draft a e, you should teach him how to play centre on the wing. Do you ever come up with anything new? Or is it the same talking points all the time? We all read the last 16 times you pissed and moaned on Bergevin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: Better be ham being don, who loves losing and cheering on a team... HEY, you got something 1/2 right... 1st bit is idiotic of course, but i will not stop cheering for the Habs anytime soon, even if you think we all should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 5 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: Careful, you can’t blame MB for his obvious blunders or stupidity in this site without being ridiculed. After all it was KK’s fault that he didn’t put in the 20-30lba he should have as an 18 year old, - didn’t you hear management said it’s Kk fault because he’s lazy and has ooor practice habits. It was his fault he isn’t ready as a 19 year old. if Kk isn’t able to put it together, 3 years from now MB will be saying he wanted to pick Tkachuk or Hughes, but he went with his scouts. I would be amused if someone riduculed me for what I posted. I offered up a valid point that had a focus (planning a player's path of development), which is the GM's responsibility. EXECUTING that plan is a player's responsibility to be sure, however if the player fails to execute, it then falls back on the GM to alter the development plan accordingly (holding them out of the NHL lineup due to not being ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share Posted March 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, sbhatt said: I would be amused if someone riduculed me for what I posted. I offered up a valid point that had a focus (planning a player's path of development), which is the GM's responsibility. EXECUTING that plan is a player's responsibility to be sure, however if the player fails to execute, it then falls back on the GM to alter the development plan accordingly (holding them out of the NHL lineup due to not being ready. There is a reason you dont get ridiculed. When you feel something is good you say that. When you feel something is wrong, you critique it. That doesnt mean i (or anyone else) will always agree with you. But i do know you are being honest in your assessments. Its a little different with h29 who i know what hes going to say before even opening his post. Its just the same thing and grows tiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Odd time to announce this in the middle of a game but Tatar's going to be out for a bit: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 KK's season is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, JoeLassister said: KK's season is over. Just an awful way to end his season that was turning around in Laval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 It sounds like Tatar's injury will need singnificant rest and rehab...so likely shut down for the rest of the season. Makes no sense to take a risk to play meaningless games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, sbhatt said: It sounds like Tatar's injury will need singnificant rest and rehab...so likely shut down for the rest of the season. Makes no sense to take a risk to play meaningless games. Should have traded him while value was high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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