Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Just now, GHT120 said: That's good news. Evans is a player I really like but really worry about given his concussion history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Looks like Evans is in tonight as is Tyler Pitlick. Since it's not Ylonen coming out for his return (it's Perreault), that tells me the Habs are converting Ylonen to a regular recall which would be #3 out of the four allowable. (Schueneman's paper transaction was one, Barron's recall the other.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: That's good news. Evans is a player I really like but really worry about given his concussion history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Great news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dlbalr Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Now with that being officially done, the Habs will be able to shift him to LTIR to free up the cap space needed to activate Price (yes, they need to free up money to activate him). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Now with that being officially done, the Habs will be able to shift him to LTIR to free up the cap space needed to activate Price (yes, they need to free up money to activate him). That’s not only sad, but pathetic, given where we sit in the standings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Gallagher has 5 points in 4 games since his return from injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 11 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: That’s not only sad, but pathetic, given where we sit in the standings. It's the byproduct of carrying a 28-player active roster. If they didn't have guys like Barron, Schueneman, and Ylonen up, they probably wouldn't have needed to have an LTIR placement to free up room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 11 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: That’s not only sad, but pathetic, given where we sit in the standings. Well i think in trades they took on $$ or retained salary, didnt they? But added picks and prospects for the cost. So not all bad. Is Primeau getting recalled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, DON said: Well i think in trades they took on $$ or retained salary, didnt they? But added picks and prospects for the cost. So not all bad. Good point. They did take on retained salary which will vanish at the end of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 30 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Good point. They did take on retained salary which will vanish at the end of the year. CapFriendly currently shows 20 players on the current NHL roster (including Weber, Price and Drouin) with contracts totalling $82,419,642 for 22/23, leaving $80,358 in cap space ... that does not take into account new contracts for Rem Pitlick or Romanov ... or Dauphin, Pezzetta, Wideman, Schueneman ... or ... Tyler Pitlick Perreault, Paquette, Montembeault, Clague, Lagesson ... as well as various AHLers who likely get bury-able two-way deal ***if*** re-signed. HuGo need to consult Penn&Teller, Chris Angel, David Copperfield, David Blaine and any other "magician" you can think of ... salary cap magic is needed this summer ... even moving Weber likely leaves the Habs near (on-brink-of?) LTIR once Romanov and Rem are re-signed ... not where a rebuilding team needs to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 54 minutes ago, GHT120 said: CapFriendly currently shows 20 players on the current NHL roster (including Weber, Price and Drouin) with contracts totalling $82,419,642 for 22/23, leaving $80,358 in cap space ... that does not take into account new contracts for Rem Pitlick or Romanov ... or Dauphin, Pezzetta, Wideman, Schueneman ... or ... Tyler Pitlick Perreault, Paquette, Montembeault, Clague, Lagesson ... as well as various AHLers who likely get bury-able two-way deal ***if*** re-signed. HuGo need to consult Penn&Teller, Chris Angel, David Copperfield, David Blaine and any other "magician" you can think of ... salary cap magic is needed this summer ... even moving Weber likely leaves the Habs near (on-brink-of?) LTIR once Romanov and Rem are re-signed ... not where a rebuilding team needs to be. No question there is work to do, the hard decisions will be made this summer with Petry, Gallagher, Price etc and hopefully moving the Weber contract. It won't be easy. A lot of the players you mentioned, Perreault, Paquette, Wideman, Clague, Lagesson, Tyler Pittlick won't be resigned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 hour ago, DON said: Is Primeau getting recalled? Yep, he was brought up this morning on emergency recall (doesn't count against the 4). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 There is no question that players will be moved this summer. We just don't know which ones, or exactly how much cap space that will free up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 hour ago, GHT120 said: ... not where a rebuilding team needs to be. Why? They likely arnt in the big-game UFA market for next season and hopefully deal Petry's contract for younger cheaper prospect or yound-d. And maybe trade Hoffman and/or Armia, even if got to eat some $$ perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 2 hours ago, GHT120 said: CapFriendly currently shows 20 players on the current NHL roster (including Weber, Price and Drouin) with contracts totalling $82,419,642 for 22/23, leaving $80,358 in cap space ... that does not take into account new contracts for Rem Pitlick or Romanov ... or Dauphin, Pezzetta, Wideman, Schueneman ... or ... Tyler Pitlick Perreault, Paquette, Montembeault, Clague, Lagesson ... as well as various AHLers who likely get bury-able two-way deal ***if*** re-signed. A further note to this: that total includes Weber's $8M, and I think we can pretty safely assume that he'll be back on LTIR next season again. That leaves about $8M in space, before any roster moves (which are inevitable in any case). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 hour ago, tomh009 said: There is no question that players will be moved this summer. We just don't know which ones, or exactly how much cap space that will free up. Well hopefully Phoenix will need a contract like Weber to get them to the cap floor, and insurance will pick up the cost for anyways. Not sure what their cap situation is for next year, but I really can’t think of anyone else who it would make sense to trade for the contract without us having to give up a lot as inducement. I think we can probably move a Petry, and not have to retain. I can see anyone picking up Gallagher or Armia without retention. if we have more cap flexibility we can make more deal at the next deadline where we retain salary, or pick up dead weight of other players on expiring contracts. But it would be nice to start 2023 with a good cap position. Caufield will also need to a new deal by than. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 If Hugo is able to move Petry and Gallagher without retaining (much?) salary, and Byron's contract expires after next season, the cap situation should be much easier for the 2023-2024 season. Armia, Allen or others would have a substantially smaller impact as they would still need to be replaced (and their contracts are not as long). Moving Weber's contract would enable some cap flexibility but in itself it would not provide additional cap room, just the ability to accumulate cap space during the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: ... A lot of the players you mentioned, Perreault, Paquette, Wideman, Clague, Lagesson, Tyler Pittlick won't be resigned. Agreed ... but that won't impact the current $82,419,642 in total AAV for next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 2 hours ago, DON said: Why? They likely arnt in the big-game UFA market for next season and hopefully deal Petry's contract for younger cheaper prospect or yound-d. And maybe trade Hoffman and/or Armia, even if got to eat some $$ perhaps. Because being in LTIR means they can't take on any cap hit without moving out cap hit ... no possibility of getting "paid" to be the "third-team" in a salary retention trade situation ... no getting picks/prospects as part of a deal to take on AAV (i.e., a bad contract) ... no real flexibility in managing the 23-man roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 10, 2022 Author Share Posted April 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Agreed ... but that won't impact the current $82,419,642 in total AAV for next season Sure but that also includes Weber, which means we'll be able to go over the cap by his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, Commandant said: Sure but that also includes Weber, which means we'll be able to go over the cap by his contract. IF the are willing to go the LTIR route, and the accompanying lack of flexibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 2 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: Well hopefully Phoenix will need a contract like Weber to get them to the cap floor, and insurance will pick up the cost for anyways. Weber's deal is largely uninsured from what I've heard. It's not entirely uninsured but the percentage is relatively low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Weber's deal is largely uninsured from what I've heard. It's not entirely uninsured but the percentage is relatively low. But fortunately his REAL $$$ salary is low (by NHL standards) in comparison to the AAV he carries the next four seasons ... $3M, $1M. $1M and $1M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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