tomh009 Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 OK, fair enough. My short reading on Hutton just didn't impress me greatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, tomh009 said: OK, fair enough. My short reading on Hutton just didn't impress me greatly. Remember, I’m not saying he’s anything great. He had a very good rookie season, but fitness and ‘character’ issues cost him the coaches’ trust and he only clawed back into the good books last season, when if memory serves he was de facto top 4 on one of the league’s worst bluelines. But he did OK IMHO. He’s worth taking a flyer on given his improvement last year, his youth, and his profile as a puck moving LD. EDIT: I’d be curious to see his advanced stats from last year compared with Benn’s. Any takers? ? EDIT again: mixed reviews here - seems fair https://canucksarmy.com/2019/03/28/the-arguments-for-and-against-trading-ben-hutton/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habber31 Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 13 hours ago, dlbalr said: The reported ask is 2 years at $4 million per season. Vegas is offering 2 years at $2 million per year. 2nd and 4th rounder get him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Winnipeg - Laine Montreal - Juulsen, Ylonen, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 33 minutes ago, Meller93 said: Winnipeg - Laine Montreal - Juulsen, Ylonen, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd Thoughts? I wonder if a 10.4 million by 5 year offer sheet would get it done? I think we should bite the bullet and offer Mariner 12 million by 5 years (more term if he is willing) and give up 4 firsts. We have the strongest prospect pool that we have had in decades. Now is the time to be bold and the chances of drafting a Mariner calibre player in later first rounds is slim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: I wonder if a 10.4 million by 5 year offer sheet would get it done? I think we should bite the bullet and offer Mariner 12 million by 5 years (more term if he is willing) and give up 4 firsts. We have the strongest prospect pool that we have had in decades. Now is the time to be bold and the chances of drafting a Mariner calibre player in later first rounds is slim. I personally think a scorer (Laine) rather than a playmaker (Marner) would be a better fit for us. We have playmakers already, but putting the puck in the net is a challenge at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 58 minutes ago, Meller93 said: Winnipeg - Laine Montreal - Juulsen, Ylonen, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd Thoughts? My thought is that Winnipeg doesn't even entertain such an offer. They would need to get some kind of help for their current team, far more than just Juulsen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 57 minutes ago, Commandant said: My thought is that Winnipeg doesn't even entertain such an offer. They would need to get some kind of help for their current team, far more than just Juulsen. That’s what I figured. Who goes back from our forward group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 23 minutes ago, Meller93 said: That’s what I figured. Who goes back from our forward group? I'd have to think Drouin would be involved. Though of course it would be Drouin ++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I think Drouin + Juulsen + prospects is a start. Drouin actually scored more points last season than Laine did, but I don't really know how well he would fit Winnipeg's needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, Commandant said: I'd have to think Drouin would be involved. Though of course it would be Drouin ++ I’m definitely game to do Drouin + Juulsen + prospects and picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Drouin and Ehlers reunited could be intriguing to Winnipeg... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Commandant said: I'd have to think Drouin would be involved. Though of course it would be Drouin ++ Don't they need d-men more? And this must be 150th proposal for Drouin to be sent packing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 1 hour ago, DON said: Don't they need d-men more? And this must be 150th proposal for Drouin to be sent packing. Well he is the best trade piece for both having value and me not caring much if he’s gone hahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 1 hour ago, DON said: Don't they need d-men more? And this must be 150th proposal for Drouin to be sent packing. The need for Dmen is assuming they are keeping Laine (and Connor). With Laine out they need a winger for their top 6 as well as D. The ++ would need to be dmen. Drouin, Juulsen and then something else.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehjay Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I would rather MB swing a deal for Connor over Laine. WIN: Drouin, Juulsen and pick? MTL: Connor or is that too much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Commandant said: The need for Dmen is assuming they are keeping Laine (and Connor). With Laine out they need a winger for their top 6 as well as D. The ++ would need to be dmen. Drouin, Juulsen and then something else.... Why do you think they would ask for or accept Drouin? And not a cheaper better player like Gallagher? 12 minutes ago, ehjay said: I would rather MB swing a deal for Connor over Laine. WIN: Drouin, Juulsen and pick? MTL: Connor or is that too Oh great, another get rid of fans most disliked Hab proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I think drouin has a great contract relative ro his production. I don't know that I would rush ro trade him unless it was for a significant upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehjay Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, DON said: Why do you think they would ask for or accept Drouin? And not a cheaper better player like Gallagher? Oh great, another get rid of fans most disliked Hab proposal. Honestly, I was not proposing Drouin bcuz I dislike his play but rather more bcuz of the value of his play. I think Drouin would be a player that Jets would most def want back and I ain't giving up Domi so Drouin, sry Don edit: but you are right in some sense I'll give you that and yup I think Connor would be a better player then Drouin, is true too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 31 minutes ago, ehjay said: I would rather MB swing a deal for Connor over Laine. I'm curious, why do you think Connor would be better for the Habs than Laine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, DON said: Why do you think they would ask for or accept Drouin? And not a cheaper better player like Gallagher? Oh great, another get rid of fans most disliked Hab proposal. They'll need a LW to replace Laine Drouin has chemistry with Ehlers in Junior. Drouin is cost controlled for longer than Gallagher, Gallagher will be a free agent sooner. Drouin actually had more points than both Gallagher and Laine last year. Last I don't think Montreal is going to want to give Gallagher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I must be in the minority of people that want to keep Drouin, I think he is a big piece of our core moving forward. He is on a relatively cheap contract for what he currently produces combined with his potential. Plus I just enjoy watching him play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 How long can a guy have potential? 6 mill for 50-60 points is a high number, he doesn't bring anything else to the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habber31 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Frustrating player, but 5.5 is a good contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 47 minutes ago, Chris said: How long can a guy have potential? 6 mill for 50-60 points is a high number, he doesn't bring anything else to the table. It's 5.5 million in a province where .5 extra goes to taxes. Very reasonable contract for 50 to 60 points in today's nhl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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