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I'd call the league leading PK (with a shot at breaking the NHL record for success %) a pretty big positive as well.

In fairness,i always pointed tot he PK to even out the pathetic PP.So the special teams are average..at best

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I think many will be disappointed at the deadline for the opposite reasons than usual. I don't see us moving more than 1 dman,as we still have to fill a lineup. The two things that could change that is :the severity of Webers injury,and more importantly to me possibly signing our NCAA dmen. I;E: Pateryn,Bennet and/or other swe may have

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I think many will be disappointed at the deadline for the opposite reasons than usual. I don't see us moving more than 1 dman,as we still have to fill a lineup. The two things that could change that is :the severity of Webers injury,and more importantly to me possibly signing our NCAA dmen. I;E: Pateryn,Bennet and/or other swe may have

I am not sure what the expanded roster does for the 50 man limit. However I believe we would like to make new signings as opposed to college people already in system. This is sort of how you get an extra draft choice. The Pateryns of the world will be slotted in the non returning Dogs slots.

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I am not sure what the expanded roster does for the 50 man limit. However I believe we would like to make new signings as opposed to college people already in system. This is sort of how you get an extra draft choice. The Pateryns of the world will be slotted in the non returning Dogs slots.

The 50-man roster is always in play. Heck, the Mike Richards to LA deal had a pure nobody as a throw-in to keep both teams in compliance. The NCAA guys like Pateryn almost always sign future year deals with an PTO tacked on this year. For example, Joe Stejskal signed after his NCAA season ended. He played in Hamilton on a tryout for the rest of the season while his contract started this year. That allows teams to sign their youngsters without hurting their limit. If you want to sign a college free agent, you'll likely have to do something that would knock a year off their entry level deal (much like Bozak and Da Costa before) which would count them against the 50.

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What about G?

G is just old enough for people starting to question his contract and his heart. just like Jailhouse Joe back then.

The lucky team which will win the bid will probably end up paying a bunch of crap.

Sturm + Stuart + a pick

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The 50-man roster is always in play. Heck, the Mike Richards to LA deal had a pure nobody as a throw-in to keep both teams in compliance. The NCAA guys like Pateryn almost always sign future year deals with an PTO tacked on this year. For example, Joe Stejskal signed after his NCAA season ended. He played in Hamilton on a tryout for the rest of the season while his contract started this year. That allows teams to sign their youngsters without hurting their limit. If you want to sign a college free agent, you'll likely have to do something that would knock a year off their entry level deal (much like Bozak and Da Costa before) which would count them against the 50.

Thanx Dlbair. / Appears to me that we can ship anybody out and find enough bodies to finish year out. Maybe we can even get extra spaces

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As Dblair alluded to, having that extra space or two will be valuable for going after the top college UFAs.

The amount of money each team can offer a top college UFA is similar, because of the ELC system.

However having room on the 50 man limit so that they can play 1 NHL game this season and burn a year on the contract is a valuable tool that will often attract a player like a DaCosta, Hanson, etc...

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As Dblair alluded to, having that extra space or two will be valuable for going after the top college UFAs.

The amount of money each team can offer a top college UFA is similar, because of the ELC system.

However having room on the 50 man limit so that they can play 1 NHL game this season and burn a year on the contract is a valuable tool that will often attract a player like a DaCosta, Hanson, etc...

The best part for me is they are farther along the learning curve, so you can see better what you are getting and have less chance of picking a dud.

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The best part for me is they are farther along the learning curve, so you can see better what you are getting and have less chance of picking a dud.

I liken it to a 10-20 game tryout in the NHL,so to get a look at any potential they could have.

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Someone on NHL.com suggested we trade Price and a 5th round pick for Nash. Also to their credibility, they think Thomas is only worth a 3rd round pick.

Goalies have crap value, unless your the Caps it seems but thats a bit linsane.

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Trade proposal.

Kaberle and Campoli to any team for anything from a 7th to Daniel Sedin. Anything.

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Trade proposal.

Kaberle and Campoli to any team for anything from a 7th to Daniel Sedin. Anything.

I love your proposal. Trouble is, nobody wants Kaberle. The hockey "outsider" Darren Dreger said if he's available, the team wouldn't get a single phone call. Not ONE inquiry. Feel free to rip Dreger, but on this, I believe him.
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I love your proposal. Trouble is, nobody wants Kaberle. The hockey "outsider" Darren Dreger said if he's available, the team wouldn't get a single phone call. Not ONE inquiry. Feel free to rip Dreger, but on this, I believe him.

I would honestly prefer Kaberle as our seventh D-man than a guy like Weber or Campoli. He still has a good pass but should be playing third string minutes unless we get a ton of powerplays. Having Kaberle for two more seasons is a lot like if we ended up keeping Marc-Andre Bergeron.

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I would honestly prefer Kaberle as our seventh D-man than a guy like Weber or Campoli. He still has a good pass but should be playing third string minutes unless we get a ton of powerplays. Having Kaberle for two more seasons is a lot like if we ended up keeping Marc-Andre Bergeron.

Well, again, it all depends on Markov's health...

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This is exactly why I don't get the love for the Kaberle pickup. Bad deal for another 2 years. What is the point of a dman that couldn't defend against ahl'ers if his life depended on it.

It's one thing to have a one demensional pp specialist for $2m on a 1 yr deal. Another thing entirely to have one locked up for 3 years at over $4m

I love your proposal. Trouble is, nobody wants Kaberle. The hockey "outsider" Darren Dreger said if he's available, the team wouldn't get a single phone call. Not ONE inquiry. Feel free to rip Dreger, but on this, I believe him.

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Having Kaberle for two more seasons is a lot like if we ended up keeping Marc-Andre Bergeron.

Whoa, whoa !! With all due respect to Mr. Bergeron, he isn't in the same class as Kaberle. He has never won the Cup, an Olympic medaI or made several all-star teams. I really don't get all the hate for Tomas. Sure he had a rough go with Carolina this year but the whole team was struggling. Who gives a shit what Darren Dreger or anybody else says? Having him on the team isn't the albatross that most people perceive him to be. I think that a lot of us Hab fans have hated him for so long that we can't let the past go. And the Leaf-homer media rips this guy apart because he is now on the hated Habs. This time last year he was a prized free agent rental player, and now all of the sudden is lower than scum?? Doesn't make sense to me.

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I don't hate Kaberle at all. I was making a comparison to how Bergeron and Kaberle are pretty much glass cannons. They'll provide offensively but don't do much in their named position.

I also don't believe he's untradeable. There's no such thing in any sport.

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I don't hate Kaberle at all. I was making a comparison to how Bergeron and Kaberle are pretty much glass cannons. They'll provide offensively but don't do much in their named position.

I also don't believe he's untradeable. There's no such thing in any sport.

The problem is cap hit. A 7th dman being paid that much is ridiculous. Bergeron makes way less. More reasonable cap hit, and actually more entertaining to watch. I think Kaberle is useless. If he's on pace for 42 points, that's not much more than 1 assist per week, over the course of a season. That's why the trade was laughed at, cap hit. We're stuck with this player.
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This is exactly why I don't get the love for the Kaberle pickup. Bad deal for another 2 years. What is the point of a dman that couldn't defend against ahl'ers if his life depended on it.

It's one thing to have a one demensional pp specialist for $2m on a 1 yr deal. Another thing entirely to have one locked up for 3 years at over $4m

I loved the Kaberle pickup when it happened in hope that he could help the team to go on a hot winning streak by helping the PP.

Thruth is he didn't do that bad, but the team's performances never picked up. It was a gamble and didn't pay.

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The issue is, how many gambles can a team afford in a cap world?

Gainey gambled that Gomez would bring some sort of value for his $7.4m - despite him not doing so in NY and despite everyone agreeing it was the worst contract in hockey along with redden.

As far as Kaberle's contribution and being a cup winner. He had zero impact on the bruins cup win. They could have had MAB and had the same result.

I loved the Kaberle pickup when it happened in hope that he could help the team to go on a hot winning streak by helping the PP.

Thruth is he didn't do that bad, but the team's performances never picked up. It was a gamble and didn't pay.

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Exactly...if I was GM, and we didn't have a salary cap, MAB would be on my team. He would watch the game from the dressing room, while eating hot dogs. He would walk up the tunnel only when we have a power play, and would play just for the crazy shot from the blue line. And the bonus is he could satisfy the francophone media, and answer some questions after. Kaberle doesn't even have a good shot.

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As far as Kaberle's contribution and being a cup winner. He had zero impact on the bruins cup win. They could have had MAB and had the same result.

Zero impact?? Surely you couldn't have played any team sports in your life to make such a statement. He was part of a TEAM that won the Stanley Cup. He may not of lived up to people's expectations but there is no way of knowing how the Bruins would have done without Kaberle. They won WITH him, bottom line. I could hypothetically say if they had Lidstrom instead of Kaberle they wouldn't have beat the Habs in the first round. Perhaps the chemistry wouldn't of worked. All history will show is that particular Bruins TEAM was the best in the world at that point in time.

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Zero impact?? Surely you couldn't have played any team sports in your life to make such a statement. He was part of a TEAM that won the Stanley Cup. He may not of lived up to people's expectations but there is no way of knowing how the Bruins would have done without Kaberle. They won WITH him, bottom line. I could hypothetically say if they had Lidstrom instead of Kaberle they wouldn't have beat the Habs in the first round. Perhaps the chemistry wouldn't of worked. All history will show is that particular Bruins TEAM was the best in the world at that point in time.

They got him for the PP. Their PP still sucked. The PP was a non-factor to their win. they won in spite of Kaberle.

Gary Leeman one of the most useless habs ever (also took away away a cup ring from Skrudland) contributed more to the 93 cup run, by at least getting one or two important goals on that cup run. Kaberle was a non-factor.

Even the leafs, who were the 2nd worst team in the league a couple of years ago, were desperate to dump him. The bruins wanted nothing to do with him, after chasing after him for two years and giving up a king's ransom for him. Rutherford, the Carolina GM, said he should have known better and wished he didn't sign him. Their was only one GM dumb enough to trade for him, who happens to be the same guy who was head of the habs pro scouting, when Gainey signed Gomez.

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