DON Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 7 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I have always doubted whether he had much going on upstairs. Toys in the attic, if you know what I mean. Aerosmiths best album... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 13 hours ago, tomh009 said: And knowing that you need to leave the US before your visa expires…that’s not rocket science, either. Or to not try to return if you left after overstaying your visa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 9 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I have always doubted whether he had much going on upstairs. Toys in the attic, if you know what I mean. Lights were on but there was no one at home ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Boagalott Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 22 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Exactly. Galchenyuk is 29 not some 18 year spoiled rookie. You would think he would have grown up a little by now. The fiancee thing is a pretty feeble excuse in my opinion. It's not like he couldn't go to Canada to spend time with her. He knows where Canada is after playing in Montreal, Toronto and junior in Sarnia. You make your bed and you sleep in it. Hopefully he can get it sorted out for his sake and the rest of society. Agreed. Its likely just a ploy to get his contract back vs him actually feeling bad and regretting what he did. I view it the exact same way as the guy Boston signed last year who never really made a legit apology to the mentally challenged schoolmate he harmed. They both only regret being in trouble and just want to play hockey by giving a weak faux apology vs a real one. Chucky joining the NHL assistance program will most likely save his ass from being terminated by the Yotes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Sir_Boagalott said: Chucky joining the NHL assistance program will most likely save his ass from being terminated by the Yotes. And Arizona will gets a cheap NHL calibre player, I think McCarron & Tinordi both played NHL after treatment, so maybe he will as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 6 hours ago, DON said: And Arizona will gets a cheap NHL calibre player LOW calibre, but calibre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Boagalott Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 10 hours ago, DON said: And Arizona will gets a cheap NHL calibre player, I think McCarron & Tinordi both played NHL after treatment, so maybe he will as well? My original comment was regarding when somebody gets let go or fired from their employer if they have an addiction problem then it is a Human Rights issue and the company is unable to legally fire them. The company must try to get them help before they can get rid of them. Based on that principle, I don't believe the Yotes can terminate his contract like they have. I imagine that the NHLPA will get involved and can get his contract reinstated. I had assumed that Chucky was just saying that to benefit from the Human Rights laws, but there is a rumour that Chucky has had a longstanding cocaine problem. It is possible that he does have a legit addiction issue and that would explain why he never panned out. McCarron and Tinordi had addictions problems as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 13 hours ago, Sir_Boagalott said: McCarron and Tinordi had addictions problems as well? McCarron yes. Tinordi just steroids maybe it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 13 hours ago, Sir_Boagalott said: My original comment was regarding when somebody gets let go or fired from their employer if they have an addiction problem then it is a Human Rights issue and the company is unable to legally fire them. The company must try to get them help before they can get rid of them. Based on that principle, I don't believe the Yotes can terminate his contract like they have. I imagine that the NHLPA will get involved and can get his contract reinstated. However, they terminated him for behaviour, not for addiction. But this will be AZ employment and human rights laws, I have no familiarity with those anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, tomh009 said: However, they terminated him for behaviour, not for addiction. But the addiction ***could*** be the cause of the behaviour ... it will be interesting. I am not certain how/whether AZ employment and human rights laws apply if the situation is covered by the league-wide collective bargaining agreement that applies across the USA, and Canada.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 I’m not sure if any player can avoid the buyout process. It’s a legal option for any team. Not to mention that the desire for the assistance program came after he was bought out. I hope Chucky gets all the help he needs but it looks like he took this path to try and save his ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 58 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: I’m not sure if any player can avoid the buyout process. It’s a legal option for any team. Not to mention that the desire for the assistance program came after he was bought out. I hope Chucky gets all the help he needs but it looks like he took this path to try and save his ass. This isnt a buyout. Buyout is 66% of pay over 2 years. This was a termination "for cause".... no pay... no cap hit. Thats what they are challenging the "for cause" part if they challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Commandant said: This isnt a buyout. Buyout is 66% of pay over 2 years. This was a termination "for cause".... no pay... no cap hit. Thats what they are challenging the "for cause" part if they challenge. Well that makes more sense then. NHLPA might have a case then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 I guess if the Yotes lose the case, they can always then buy him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 2 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I guess if the Yotes lose the case, they can always then buy him out. The buyout window is closed so that isn't actually an option for them. At that point, they'd be stuck with playing him in the minors or paying him to stay home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 11 hours ago, dlbalr said: The buyout window is closed so that isn't actually an option for them. At that point, they'd be stuck with playing him in the minors or paying him to stay home. wouldn't they be able to put him on IR if he is in the NHLPA substance abuse program? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 2 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: wouldn't they be able to put him on IR if he is in the NHLPA substance abuse program? If he's still in the program during the season, he can be taken off the roster. A stint in there could be as little as 30 days though; depending on what happens, he could be cleared to return by training camp in which case he can't have a non-roster designation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Not exactly news on a former player but I like this quote. From Markov and Kovalev to Matheson and Suzuki? Although the trend doesn’t include two Dmen on the PP - maybe it should! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 45 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Not exactly news on a former player but I like this quote. From Markov and Kovalev to Matheson and Suzuki? Although the trend doesn’t include two Dmen on the PP - maybe it should! Give me peak Markov and Souray and I'd play two D-men on the PP next season ... but I'm not certain any of the Habs current D-Men are either the QB (Markov) or Bomber (Souray) types that the PP needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted August 18, 2023 Author Share Posted August 18, 2023 But Markov and Souray were never on Twitch (https://m.twitch.tv/) chilling with fans!!! … changing times/priorities … I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 4 hours ago, GHT120 said: Give me peak Markov and Souray and I'd play two D-men on the PP next season ... but I'm not certain any of the Habs current D-Men are either the QB (Markov) or Bomber (Souray) types that the PP needs. Matheson is much better skater than Markov, but not as smart, no. Mailloux has similar shot to Souray and likely more offense in general, but neither are Markov smart ...gotta wait for Hutson and hope his game translates. Who knows how well Harris or Barron's offense will get? Am very curious to see which of Guhle-Harris-Barron-Xhekaj-Kovavevic takes step up in their 2nd year and who dosent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Basing a powerplay around a powerful point shot seems a thing of the past. You need more than that (And shots closer to the net are better too). The Weber PP was often predictable and awful. Sure its great to have a defenceman with a big shot, but you just don't base your PP around that shot as the primary weapon anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Commandant said: Basing a powerplay around a powerful point shot seems a thing of the past. You need more than that (And shots closer to the net are better too). The Weber PP was often predictable and awful. Sure its great to have a defenceman with a big shot, but you just don't base your PP around that shot as the primary weapon anymore. True ... but Markov also excelled at quickly and subtly getting the puck to the net, as well as setting up shooters other than the BOMBER ... that was part of what made his PP effective ... unlike the Weber-based PP it wasn't BOMBER dependent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 36 minutes ago, Commandant said: Sure its great to have a defenceman with a big shot, but you just don't base your PP around that shot as the primary weapon anymore. Agreed, any single-weapon PP is fairly easily defended against. But a D shot as a secondary weapon makes defending against the PP that much harder. Imagine Caufield, Suzuki, Dach and Monahan with Xhekaj or Mailloux on the point, for example. At least I can dream! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, GHT120 said: True ... but Markov also excelled at quickly and subtly getting the puck to the net, as well as setting up shooters other than the BOMBER ... that was part of what made his PP effective ... unlike the Weber-based PP it wasn't BOMBER dependent. Markov was a distributor. He would still work on a PP today. A PP run through a Souray type wouldn't though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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