Lanes World Posted November 11, 2024 Share Posted November 11, 2024 46 minutes ago, Commandant said: Primeau played like a league average goalie last season and has been better than Montembault so far this season. He's 25 years old and has played a grand total of 50 NHL games. We should give up on him, put him on waivers, and call up a 21 year old with one full AHL season, rushing, instead of developing Dobes? This plan makes zero sense. Not my best idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted November 11, 2024 Share Posted November 11, 2024 1 hour ago, GHT120 said: Sunday Georges Laraque claimed to have big news about the habs ... today: I think Gallant has been a very successful HC (CBJ didn't work out but over .600 winning percentage his last three jobs) who just doesn't seem to be able to get the team "over the hump" ... but he could be a very good supplement to MSL. Hughes saying the rumours are lies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted November 11, 2024 Share Posted November 11, 2024 35 minutes ago, Lanes World said: Not my best idea We all want a quick fix and not to go.through the growing pains. I get that. But good management has to avoid panicking and quick fixes and let the plan play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanes World Posted November 11, 2024 Share Posted November 11, 2024 It’s patience, no question…. With a bit of luck too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted November 11, 2024 Share Posted November 11, 2024 12 minutes ago, Lanes World said: It’s patience, no question…. With a bit of luck too. You do need luck. So far, our luck in this rebuild has been absolute dog ka-ka. Much as it was under Gainey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted November 11, 2024 Share Posted November 11, 2024 1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Hughes saying the rumours are lies That is pretty categorical ... surprised that Karine Hains (affiliated with the Hockey News) apparently depended solely on Laraque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted November 11, 2024 Share Posted November 11, 2024 14 minutes ago, GHT120 said: That is pretty categorical ... surprised that Karine Hains (affiliated with the Hockey News) apparently depended solely on Laraque. THN has massively cut budgets and quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted November 11, 2024 Share Posted November 11, 2024 Although it's been frustrating so far this year, Hutson continues to be a bright spot. If he stays healthy he should score 50 points which is very impressive for a rookie defensemen. I also agree with those who think Guhle should go back to the left side. Playing the wrong side means he is on his backhand more often which puts him in a more vulnerable position I think. He absolutely got smoked by Pacioretty in the first shift of the Toronto game in this position. Fortunately no injury. Pacioretty must be trying to impress Berube as I have never seen him play the body like that before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted November 12, 2024 Share Posted November 12, 2024 19 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: You do need luck. So far, our luck in this rebuild has been absolute dog ka-ka. Much as it was under Gainey. But, at least no Gomez-McDonagh type deals... yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanes World Posted November 12, 2024 Share Posted November 12, 2024 (edited) In my opinion, Primeau will be on Waivers before Christmas. Sorry Commandant 😊 Edited November 12, 2024 by Lanes World Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted November 12, 2024 Share Posted November 12, 2024 12 minutes ago, DON said: But, at least no Gomez-McDonagh type deals... yet. So far the contracts signed by Hughes have SEEMINGLY been great. Some $ coming off the books at seasons end and one more year of Price’s big contract. So it will be the 26/27 season where Hughes has money to spend and let’s hope that he spends it wisely. And so far no boner trades 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted November 12, 2024 Share Posted November 12, 2024 4 minutes ago, Lanes World said: In my opinion, Primeau will be on Waivers before Christmas. Sorry Commandant 😊 If Dobes was ready then it might be possible but we have nobody to replace Primeau. Certainly not defending Primeau’s play but Montembault has been shellacked just as much. Both goalie have not been good. Montembault thought the season was over and he won the cup after that incredible first game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanes World Posted November 12, 2024 Share Posted November 12, 2024 Primeau has lost the confidence to be an NHL goalie at this point. it’s zero help for his development to be sitting on the Habs bench, as their backup goalie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted November 12, 2024 Share Posted November 12, 2024 40 minutes ago, DON said: But, at least no Gomez-McDonagh type deals... yet. Setting aside his personal tragedy, which I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy, Gainey wasn’t too lucky in his tenure with us in that (a) several highly-regarded prospects failed to pan out; (b) several hiring and trade decisions that might have worked didn’t work; and (c) massive, critical injuries befell key players on the team at crucial times. So far HuGo have had only (a), but worse. The injuries to Gainey’s team destroyed Lang and Markov, making the desired culmination - a Cup run in 2009 - impossible. The injuries to HuGo’s team have wiped out two entire seasons in the development of key players, with uncertain longer-term consequences for their development. With (a) it’s too soon to tell. As for (b), the only move with a big question mark on it so far is hiring MSL. I’d rate HuGo’s overall hockey/organizational moves much more highly than Bob’s, but luck-wise it’s been absolute poop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted November 12, 2024 Author Share Posted November 12, 2024 19 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: You do need luck. So far, our luck in this rebuild has been absolute dog ka-ka. Much as it was under Gainey. Well ... the rebuild is far from over, but there are real, tangible things that look promising. Since Gorton came on board: Drafted Slafkovsky, who looks very good Drafted Hutson, who looks like an absolute steal Drafted Reinbacher, Fowler, Demidov and Hage Signed Suzuki, Caufield and Slafkovsky to good contracts Traded for Dach and Newhook, who should at the minimum be legitimate top-six forwards Traded Petry for Matheson Signed Hughes as Laval back-up It's not enough, yet, but I still see us on the right path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted November 12, 2024 Author Share Posted November 12, 2024 1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: If Dobes was ready then it might be possible but we have nobody to replace Primeau. Connor Hughes. 0,931 and 1.99 GAA in Laval, not allowed more than three goals yet. Dobes needs the development time in Laval. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted November 12, 2024 Share Posted November 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, tomh009 said: Well ... the rebuild is far from over, but there are real, tangible things that look promising. Since Gorton came on board: Drafted Slafkovsky, who looks very good Drafted Hutson, who looks like an absolute steal Drafted Reinbacher, Fowler, Demidov and Hage Signed Suzuki, Caufield and Slafkovsky to good contracts Traded for Dach and Newhook, who should at the minimum be legitimate top-six forwards Traded Petry for Matheson Signed Hughes as Laval back-up It's not enough, yet, but I still see us on the right path. My assumption is that luck is different from acumen. As I note above, the moves so far have been good. The luck has been bad. It could be worse, of course - e.g., career-ending injuries. But it hasn’t been great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted November 12, 2024 Author Share Posted November 12, 2024 1 minute ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: My assumption is that luck is different from acumen. A fair point, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted November 12, 2024 Share Posted November 12, 2024 1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: If Dobes was ready then it might be possible but we have nobody to replace Primeau. Certainly not defending Primeau’s play but Montembault has been shellacked just as much. Both goalie have not been good. Montembault thought the season was over and he won the cup after that incredible first game. I agree, you need someone to replace Primeau. There is no reason to call up Dobes, having him as a backup at 21 years old with 50 something games of AHL experience. Firstly there is no guarantee he's even NHL ready. But secondly its rushing him and ruining his development. This would be a terrible decision. I also don't think we should give up on Primeau after 51 NHL games. Seems way premature. Especially playing behind this defence right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted November 12, 2024 Share Posted November 12, 2024 1 hour ago, Lanes World said: Primeau has lost the confidence to be an NHL goalie at this point. it’s zero help for his development to be sitting on the Habs bench, as their backup goalie. So we should do that to a younger goalie with less AHL experience instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted November 12, 2024 Share Posted November 12, 2024 13 minutes ago, tomh009 said: Connor Hughes. 0,931 and 1.99 GAA in Laval, not allowed more than three goals yet. Dobes needs the development time in Laval. 6 career AHL games after playing in Switzerland. So we are going to waive Primeau and give up on him in the hope that this translates to the NHL, with no evidence it will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted November 12, 2024 Share Posted November 12, 2024 45 minutes ago, tomh009 said: Well ... the rebuild is far from over, but there are real, tangible things that look promising. Since Gorton came on board: Drafted Slafkovsky, who looks very good Drafted Hutson, who looks like an absolute steal Drafted Reinbacher, Fowler, Demidov and Hage Signed Suzuki, Caufield and Slafkovsky to good contracts Traded for Dach and Newhook, who should at the minimum be legitimate top-six forwards Traded Petry for Matheson Signed Hughes as Laval back-up It's not enough, yet, but I still see us on the right path. I would agree, Hughes has done a lot of good things. Not every move will work out as no GM is right 100% of the time. I have faith in Hughes, he just needs to stick to his plan and not get rattled by some short term pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted November 12, 2024 Author Share Posted November 12, 2024 4 hours ago, Commandant said: 6 career AHL games after playing in Switzerland. So we are going to waive Primeau and give up on him in the hope that this translates to the NHL, with no evidence it will. I would not suggest that ... but I would still call him up before I called up Dobes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted November 12, 2024 Share Posted November 12, 2024 I havent loved the goaltending this season. I also haven't loved the defense or team defense. If the defense was stellar, good, or even respectfully nhl quality, I could understand wanting to try something new in the goaltending department. I can't think of a single game this year where the team played well and the goalie laid an egg. Primeau has looked bad this year, but until he is the reason for a loss, I don't see the hurry to waivers him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted November 12, 2024 Share Posted November 12, 2024 5 hours ago, Commandant said: I agree, you need someone to replace Primeau. There is no reason to call up Dobes, having him as a backup at 21 years old with 50 something games of AHL experience. Firstly there is no guarantee he's even NHL ready. But secondly its rushing him and ruining his development. This would be a terrible decision. I also don't think we should give up on Primeau after 51 NHL games. Seems way premature. Especially playing behind this defence right now. Agreed. If that's the case we may as well give up Monty as well given the way he's played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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