DON Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: I don’t like these facts And the month & 1/2 before was at the other end of spectrum and before that it was a "fire St Louis" 1st couple months. Ducks & SJ are 2 winnable games to look forward to anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I agree with Commandant’s observation that, the last time we clawed our way out of the toilet, we did it with strong defensive play that eventually led to offence. The Minny game showed the team recommitting to strong defensive play. I want to see that continue. If it does, then Ws should start coming. Maybe not tonight, but eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 9 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I agree with Commandant’s observation that, the last time we clawed our way out of the toilet, we did it with strong defensive play that eventually led to offence. The Minny game showed the team recommitting to strong defensive play. I want to see that continue. If it does, then Ws should start coming. Maybe not tonight, but eventually. I can guarantee we wont get a W tonight since we play Anaheim tomorrow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 16 minutes ago, Commandant said: I can guarantee we wont get a W tonight since we play Anaheim tomorrow. Ahahahaha, whoops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Good luck Mailloux! Sucks to be Struble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Seems like they’re giving up on Struble. Nothing I read about Mailloux suggests a guy ready for the NHL, but a cuppa coffee never hurt anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 7 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Seems like they’re giving up on Struble. Nothing I read about Mailloux suggests a guy ready for the NHL, but a cuppa coffee never hurt anyone As I said yesterday, going on a California trip with 12 fwds and 6 D never made sense. This could be just having them on the roster in case someone gets the flu, or gets hurt in warmup. Send em back to the AHL for Monday's all-star game in California. Then call them up again for Tuesday and Wednesday games. I don't think its a guarantee that either of them is playing tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 See if Beck isnt as tentative as 1st call up and whether Mailloux can help the offense while not be 'too bad' in own end. Habs recall Owen Beck and Logan Mailloux – HabsWorld.net Montreal Canadiens recall Logan Mailloux, Owen Beck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 2 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Seems like they’re giving up on Struble. Nothing I read about Mailloux suggests a guy ready for the NHL, but a cuppa coffee never hurt anyone I would really like to see how much Pascal Vincent has been able to teach him. Maybe he'll have a game or two to show what he has learned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 16 minutes ago, tomh009 said: I would really like to see how much Pascal Vincent has been able to teach him. Maybe he'll have a game or two to show what he has learned? There is also the factor of how much Mailloux has been willing/able to learn ... but only those who see a lot of Laval games and practices might be able to comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 9 minutes ago, GHT120 said: There is also the factor of how much Mailloux has been willing/able to learn ... but only those who see a lot of Laval games and practices might be able to comment. And has that brought him closer to the NHL level, and, if so, how much? We shall see, I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I don’t think the call ups mean that they necessarily play tomorrow either. It’s not so much giving up on Struble if Mailloux does play but the reality is that currently they have to play a defenseman on their off side because we have 4 LD and 2 RD. Mailloux is a right shooting D. If they prioritize having that balance, Mailloux will play eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Approaching the 4N break, key Habs storylines could become business – Hab At Her "The next man up mentality has not worked out. Pezzetta has been ineffective. Harvey-Pinard is not even convincing as an NHLer right now. Calling Beck up to play wing is questionable. Even if the Habs could stay in the mix, their depth is insufficient to enter the playoffs." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 27 minutes ago, DON said: Approaching the 4N break, key Habs storylines could become business – Hab At Her "The next man up mentality has not worked out. Pezzetta has been ineffective. Harvey-Pinard is not even convincing as an NHLer right now. Calling Beck up to play wing is questionable. Even if the Habs could stay in the mix, their depth is insufficient to enter the playoffs." On Evans, I’m convinced that he could easily be a 3rd line center on a contending team. I’ve done the research in the past and he’s better than many current 3rd line centers on contending teams. It’s precisely the reason the Habs defeated so many contending teams in a row earlier this year. The opposing teams’ depth within their starting 12 wasn’t as good as ours. If Evans was a 4th liner, this would mean even better depth. On Mailloux, I agree that this is part of the reason he was brought up. 1) We have 4 left shooting defensemen in the lineup right now. 2) It becomes difficult to trade Savard if Mailloux can’t fit into the lineup. Even then, Mailloux brings us to the balanced 3 R & 3 L. Even with Carrier, if Mailloux works and we trade Savard, we’d still have Carrier, Mailloux, left handed shooter. On the Habs being in tough in the present because of their AHL/call up depth, I agree. This is why I stated the other day that Heineman’s loss was arguably a bigger impact than Guhle. Slotting in Pezzetta or Beck to play 6 minutes a game and forcing others to “rover” in has had an impact on team chemistry as well as forcing players to double shift, etc. There’s no arguing against the reality that losing Guhle also has an impact, and individually is more important to the team than Heineman, however at least Struble is capable of playing a regular shift on the team. The Habs were genuinely an amazing team just a few weeks ago but it was very apparent that the lines (especially forwards) couldn’t be touched at that time, and even one missing body led to no one being able to adequately fill in for what he had lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Habs currently have 5 open contract slots, there must be a pending UFA legit 4th liner somewhere that would only cost the proverbial "bag of pucks" ... fill in for Heineman while he is out and bump out Pezzetta once Emil is healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I am fine with the Habs staying the course with this linepu until the trade deadline. To see who steps up and who shrivels If I am a GM from a playoff-bound team calling the Habs to get a bottom-6 player, Dvorak and Evans look like the type of player I'd want. Depending what I need to give in exchange. I bet Dvorak is cheaper, but would be a solid 4th liner on a contending team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 6 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: I am fine with the Habs staying the course with this linepu until the trade deadline. To see who steps up and who shrivels If I am a GM from a playoff-bound team calling the Habs to get a bottom-6 player, Dvorak and Evans look like the type of player I'd want. Depending what I need to give in exchange. I bet Dvorak is cheaper, but would be a solid 4th liner on a contending team Dvorak would most certainly be cheaper for a multitude of reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 28 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Dvorak would most certainly be cheaper for a multitude of reasons Would a late round pick for him be worth it? And if Evans is possibly dealt you couldnt part with 2 centres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 14 minutes ago, DON said: Would a late round pick for him be worth it? And if Evans is possibly dealt you couldnt part with 2 centres. I think Hughes will not trade Dvorak until he has a decision on Evans. If we see Dvorak traded, I expect Evans to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 14 minutes ago, DON said: Would a late round pick for him be worth it? And if Evans is possibly dealt you couldnt part with 2 centres. Newhook, Condotta could step in Depends on how close we are to a wildcard vs bottom 4 finish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 27 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Newhook, Condotta could step in Depends on how close we are to a wildcard vs bottom 4 finish Condotta does not have a goal in the NHL yet this season. He needs speedy talented wingers to help him get free and go to the slot. I do not think he is anything other than an emergency call up behind Beck and Dauphin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Condotta is 27 years old already. If the team falls out of the race and we trade Evans or Dvorak, I'd like to see Beck get that time to see if he can be an NHLer in the fall. Condotta isn't a solution, he's a stop gap at best and will spend most of his time in the AHL. He's not going to be a full time NHLer in future, so its just wasting our time to give him 20 games IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, DON said: Would a late round pick for him be worth it? And if Evans is possibly dealt you couldnt part with 2 centres. If both are dealt, it means the team no longer considers themselves, in the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, Commandant said: Condotta is 27 years old already. If the team falls out of the race and we trade Evans or Dvorak, I'd like to see Beck get that time to see if he can be an NHLer in the fall. Condotta isn't a solution, he's a stop gap at best and will spend most of his time in the AHL. He's not going to be a full time NHLer in future, so its just wasting our time to give him 20 games IMO. Agreed ... the ONLY reason for using Condotta would be if the habs are "out of the mix" and want to have Beck be a leader in Laval as they chase the division/conference/league title(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 The whole point is that if we are in a position where we do trade all of the UFAs then it means playoffs aren’t possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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