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On 1/28/2025 at 11:56 AM, Butterface said:

Excited to see him build on his career record of 1-3-1 in 5 games with a goals against average of 3.56 and a save percentage of .883 versus the Jets.

 

Go Habs Go ! 


Well… he has a 1-4-1 record  now after last nights game and lowered his average slightly versus the Jets with a .870 percentage outing… but only let in 3 !


Even if we had our best goalie in net, we would have lost… Monty held us in as long as he could. The Jets are full value and Hellebuyck is playing his way toward a Vezina and a Hart… a la Price 2014-15.

 

https://canadiensaggr.com/media-player/76184/martin-st-louis-made-a-huge-mistake
 

At the 1:07:00 mark in this podcast with Marinaro, Pierre Maguire mentions who should start and who should keep playing in the crease for Montreal. (Original question 1:05:30)

 

Part of his decision is predicated on Monty needing rest for Team Canada… I think. I’m still hoping one of our three Team Canada goalies will fake an injury so we can replace with Thompson. Thompson is right on Hellebuyck’s heels for the Vezina.

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3 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:


Gonna be a tough game. MAF is going to stand on his head because it’s his last official game in Montreal. 
 

Go Dobes Go

MAF is a certified beauty. I love watching clips of his antics. Gonna miss him.

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1 hour ago, BCHabnut said:

MAF is a certified beauty. I love watching clips of his antics. Gonna miss him.


Great personality… I like the way he gifted that goal to the Canadiens in 2021 playoffs… Thank you MAF… But yes, he’ll be hard to beat and we won’t have Guhl’s… So Dobey will need to be back in Panthers form. No more .909 !

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Canadiens' depth takes another big hit with Kaiden Guhle's injury - Sportsnet.ca

 

"It’s a big problem, and a similar one to the one the Canadiens have faced without Heineman—even if both players play such different roles.

The Canadiens have gone 2-3-1 in the rookie’s absence, and their substandard performance in some of those games has obviously been a result of St. Louis not being able to roll his four lines the way he did when Heineman was healthy."

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1 hour ago, DON said:

 

Canadiens' depth takes another big hit with Kaiden Guhle's injury - Sportsnet.ca

 

"It’s a big problem, and a similar one to the one the Canadiens have faced without Heineman—even if both players play such different roles.

The Canadiens have gone 2-3-1 in the rookie’s absence, and their substandard performance in some of those games has obviously been a result of St. Louis not being able to roll his four lines the way he did when Heineman was healthy."

 

Heineman was quietly a significant loss. This is much worse. 

 

We're in tough.

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Yeah, while Struble has clearly had his issues in earning St. Louis’ trust this year, I feel as though he’s a much better replacement than we’ve had for Heineman. He also has the physicality within him that Guhle often brought. I think we’ll be okay on the back end but certainly can’t afford another injury. I don’t believe Guhle’s loss means we’re automatically out of the playoff hunt. If we don’t make it, we likely wouldn’t have anyway. Just my 2 cents. 

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I think there is a big difference between Guhle who is a capable top pair NHL defencemen who does well against opponents top lines and Struble who is a 6th/7th d right now. 

 

I hope Struble plays well but to say there isn't a drop off is crazy. 

 

Yes we can still make the playoffs, but this does make it more difficult. 

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Still no extra (7th) defenceman ... should the Habs make a claim if the 12/13* teams before them pass?

24 yr-old, RHD, 227 NHL games, pending RFA (arbitration eligible), $775K AAV (league minimum).

 

* - I say 12/13 because the Habs are tied with with Detroit, same record ... but I think it is 12 because Detroit is listed 19th and Habs 20th in the NHL.com standings

 

 

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1 hour ago, Commandant said:

I think there is a big difference between Guhle who is a capable top pair NHL defencemen who does well against opponents top lines and Struble who is a 6th/7th d right now. 

 

I hope Struble plays well but to say there isn't a drop off is crazy. 

 

Yes we can still make the playoffs, but this does make it more difficult. 

I would have preferred Struble to get more confidence and playing time in Laval and give Mailoux a look. We need to limit young players playing on the wrong side.

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1 hour ago, hab29RETIRED said:

I would have preferred Struble to get more confidence and playing time in Laval and give Mailoux a look. We need to limit young players playing on the wrong side.

Same here

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1 hour ago, hab29RETIRED said:

I would have preferred Struble to get more confidence and playing time in Laval and give Mailoux a look. We need to limit young players playing on the wrong side.

 

Mailloux hasn't proven to be ready in the AHL.  He's not even playing as well as he did last year.  I wouldn't rush him up. 

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1 hour ago, Commandant said:

Mailloux hasn't proven to be ready in the AHL.  He's not even playing as well as he did last year.  I wouldn't rush him up. 

His scoring is down from last year but according to Pascal Vincent it's because he has been pushing Mailloux to focus on his defence (which needs work for the NHL) rather than offence (which does not).

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3 hours ago, Commandant said:

I think there is a big difference between Guhle who is a capable top pair NHL defencemen who does well against opponents top lines and Struble who is a 6th/7th d right now. 

 

I hope Struble plays well but to say there isn't a drop off is crazy. 

 

Yes we can still make the playoffs, but this does make it more difficult. 

Who said there isn’t a drop off?

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Canadiens have a .528 points percentage without Guhle since last year. Canadiens have a .530 points percentage this year overall. It is what it is. There’s not much of a difference. 
 

Struble > Pezzetta

 

Guhle > Heineman

 

I think everyone knows that. The comparison has nothing to do with Struble versus Guhle but rather that Struble is more capable than Pezzetta or even Beck in the present. 
 

Obviously it’s more difficult to make the playoffs now but to what extent? Guhle’s importance to making the playoffs versus not is a bit of a narrative. 

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25 minutes ago, tomh009 said:

His scoring is down from last year but according to Pascal Vincent it's because he has been pushing Mailloux to focus on his defence (which needs work for the NHL) rather than offence (which does not).

But it is that defence, not the offensive drop, that is keeping him in the AHL.

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31 minutes ago, tomh009 said:

His scoring is down from last year but according to Pascal Vincent it's because he has been pushing Mailloux to focus on his defence (which needs work for the NHL) rather than offence (which does not).

Hes focused on it and working on it but its not NHL ready yet IMO

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32 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said:

Who said there isn’t a drop off?

 

You are minimizing it far too much IMO.

 

I think guhle to struble is a bigger gap than you are giving it credit for

 

Especially when you havent even considered that Guhle plays almost twice as many minutes as Heineman and thats what needs to be replaced.

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43 minutes ago, Commandant said:

Hes focused on it and working on it but its not NHL ready yet IMO

Yeah, maybe not ready yet. But I am not seeing "worse than last year".

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13 hours ago, Commandant said:

 

You are minimizing it far too much IMO.

 

I think guhle to struble is a bigger gap than you are giving it credit for

 

Especially when you havent even considered that Guhle plays almost twice as many minutes as Heineman and thats what needs to be replaced.

 

Heineman is one thing, Guhle another. The former is a bottom-six rookie who plays a strong all-around game and has upside. Guhle is a minutes-munching machine who manages brutal match-ups game in and game out, at a ridiculously young age to boot. He is going to be an integral and underrated part of any eventual Cup-winning blueline in this city. It’s a helluva lot harder to replace a guy like that than a quality bottom-6 W. 

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21 hours ago, GHT120 said:

Still no extra (7th) defenceman ... should the Habs make a claim if the 12/13* teams before them pass?

24 yr-old, RHD, 227 NHL games, pending RFA (arbitration eligible), $775K AAV (league minimum).

 

* - I say 12/13 because the Habs are tied with with Detroit, same record ... but I think it is 12 because Detroit is listed 19th and Habs 20th in the NHL.com standings

 

 

21 hours ago, Commandant said:

Yes, I'd take a shot on him as a waiver claim especially given the Guhle news. 

 

☹️ ... Boqvist ended up with the Islanders (today 20th overall) ... did the Habs (today 21st overall) pass or is waiver priority set by the day one which the players goes on to waivers ... Islanders won last night to move past the Habs.

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5 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

 

Heineman is one thing, Guhle another. The former is a bottom-six rookie who plays a strong all-around game and has upside. Guhle is a minutes-munching machine who manages brutal match-ups game in and game out, at a ridiculously young age to boot. He is going to be an integral and underrated part of any eventual Cup-winning blueline in this city. It’s a helluva lot harder to replace a guy like that than a quality bottom-6 W. 

 

The Habs started playing much worse when Heineman went down and Evans turned back into Evans 🤔 But that probably has something to do with Pezzetta taking his spot. 
 

Completely agree with your point about Guhle. There is nobody that can replace him and it’s not even close. 
 

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