DON Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Smiles all round, nice. 10 Thoughts: A Big Comeback Win in Vegas – HabsWorld.net "Jake Evans has rightfully commanded a lot of attention when it comes to the fourth line’s success but Heineman has quietly been a key part of that as well." "Montembeault stopped a slot shot with around 15 seconds left, then made a bigger stop on the rebound off Brett Howden seconds later." "Hutson had a very sound defensive game, in terms of steady play in his own end and breaking up a couple of chances. Meanwhile, the puck was often in the Vegas end when he was on the ice, an even better way of defending." Bottom Six Minutes: Habs’ top line thrives in Vegas "Against Vegas, they spent the majority of their minutes against Jack Eichel’s line, who they dominated. By the end of the night, they held a nearly 90% share of expected goals at even-strength, and while that only translated to one actual goal, it proved that they can take on one of the best lines in the league and come out ahead." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 12 hours ago, Commandant said: Fellas, are we watching a good hockey team? Not as good as recent results suggest, not as bad as early results suggested ... I'll project 86-92 points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 11 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Not as good as recent results suggest, not as bad as early results suggested ... I'll project 86-92 points I agree, not sure about points guess, just hope the entertaining games continue. A healthy lineup seems to help for sure... knock on wood. Now, will St Louis make sure they wont take Chicago lightly. Which games will Dobes play? Washington and Chicago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 11 hours ago, dlbalr said: It dropped to 'just' 50% today for the month as he had a shot - 6 goals on 12 shots for the month. No sane GM is going to sign a contract based on one month of shooting at 50%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 hours ago, DON said: I agree, not sure about points guess, just hope the entertaining games continue. A healthy lineup seems to help for sure... knock on wood. Now, will St Louis make sure they wont take Chicago lightly. Which games will Dobes play? Washington and Chicago? My guess is Chicago and if he gets a result, again in Washington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 4 hours ago, DON said: "Against Vegas, they spent the majority of their minutes against Jack Eichel’s line, who they dominated. By the end of the night, they held a nearly 90% share of expected goals at even-strength, and while that only translated to one actual goal, it proved that they can take on one of the best lines in the league and come out ahead." And that's after handling Barkov and Point. I read Brian Wilde's game article and he points out Suzuki's plus minus. On this dumpster fire defense before 3 weeks ago, its amazing how well he's done, goal diff wise. Quiet, unrecognized Bergeron clone? Not quite that level obviously, but his smarts goes largely unnoticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterface Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 If you want a shot at winning both games Chicago is Dobeš. Washington is Montembeault. If you want a higher chance to win one game, Montembeault versus Chicago and Dobeš versus Washington. If you want to see what you got, Dobeš versus both Washington and Chicago. If you want to exhaust your goalie and protect your rookie, Montembeault versus both. I think they’ll do Chicago versus Dobeš and Washington versus Montembeault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 28 minutes ago, Butterface said: If you want a shot at winning both games Chicago is Dobeš. Washington is Montembeault. If you want a higher chance to win one game, Montembeault versus Chicago and Dobeš versus Washington. If you want to see what you got, Dobeš versus both Washington and Chicago. If you want to exhaust your goalie and protect your rookie, Montembeault versus both. I think they’ll do Chicago versus Dobeš and Washington versus Montembeault. It’s Chicago and Colorado. Last time they played Florida first and Tampa second. Dobes got the first game and Montembeault got the second. Should be the same in both cases here as well. Chicago: Dobes Colorado: Washington Washington: Dobes Dallas: Montembault It’s been a tough schedule as of late. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterface Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: It’s Chicago and Colorado. Last time they played Florida first and Tampa second. Dobes got the first game and Montembeault got the second. Should be the same in both cases here as well. Chicago: Dobes Colorado: Washington Washington: Dobes Dallas: Montembault It’s been a tough schedule as of late. oops.. yes sorry… late night. Change my Washington to Colorado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 21 hours ago, BCHabnut said: And that's after handling Barkov and Point. I read Brian Wilde's game article and he points out Suzuki's plus minus. On this dumpster fire defense before 3 weeks ago, its amazing how well he's done, goal diff wise. Quiet, unrecognized Bergeron clone? Not quite that level obviously, but his smarts goes largely unnoticed. Suzuki is - so quietly - a superb hockey player. Smart, dedicated, fantastic two way game, productive, durable, shows up every night…absolutely everything you could ask for in a core guy. I feel that he flies weirdly under the radar even among habs fans, because he’s so consistent that we tend to take him for granted. Jacques Lemaire might be another comparable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 4 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Suzuki is - so quietly - a superb hockey player. Smart, dedicated, fantastic two way game, productive, durable, shows up every night…absolutely everything you could ask for in a core guy. I feel that he flies weirdly under the radar even among habs fans, because he’s so consistent that we tend to take him for granted. Jacques Lemaire might be another comparable. Lemaire! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanes World Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 14 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Suzuki is - so quietly - a superb hockey player. Smart, dedicated, fantastic two way game, productive, durable, shows up every night…absolutely everything you could ask for in a core guy. I feel that he flies weirdly under the radar even among habs fans, because he’s so consistent that we tend to take him for granted. Jacques Lemaire might be another comparable. I’m so far from a Bergevin fan, but he is an excellent scout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Bergevin wasnt scouting. No GM truly is. Thats what scouting staffs are for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanes World Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 He was a scout in Chicago. judging by what has come out about Bergevin, I’m sure he had some part in scouting. Maybe not though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Let's not forget he wanted Glass and had to "settle" for Suzuki. Unless that was some sort of masterclass of demanding one player but really after the guy Vegas conceded to give up In Suzuki. I tend do believe he got dealt a really lucky hand in that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanes World Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Cody Glass 😬 lol I don’t know about that one, but could you imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 29 minutes ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said: Let's not forget he wanted Glass and had to "settle" for Suzuki. That was the rumour but was there ever an official confirmation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 32 minutes ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said: Let's not forget he wanted Glass and had to "settle" for Suzuki. Unless that was some sort of masterclass of demanding one player but really after the guy Vegas conceded to give up In Suzuki. I tend do believe he got dealt a really lucky hand in that deal. Glass was the #6 overall pick so I guess you couldn't really blame him if that's who he wanted at the time. Glass was a great junior but had some injuries and never really developed like Suzuki. Always a little luck involved especially when trading for guys who are under 20, development can be hard to predict. But it sure turned out to be a great trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 14 minutes ago, Lanes World said: Cody Glass 😬 lol I don’t know about that one, but could you imagine. It was the "insider talk" at the time ... VGK had selected Glass 7 slots before they drafted Suzuki ... neither had played an NHL when the Pacioretty trade was made and the two had similar draft+1 junior seasons, and Glass was bigger (at least, taller and presumed to fill out more) ... so not as outrageous as it now seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Lanes World said: I’m so far from a Bergevin fan, but he is an excellent scout Bergevin wanted Glass, not Suzuki. Vegas went willing to trade Glass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 GMs have to get judged by what they actually do, not by rumours about what they would have preferred to do. Apart from the Drouin catastrophe, Bergevin was generally excellent at the trade table. The Suzuki deal is the crown jewel of his entire GMing tenure and - much as I loathe MB - he gets full credit from me for that. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 15 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: GMs have to get judged by what they actually do, not by rumours about what they would have preferred to do. Apart from the Drouin catastrophe, Bergevin was generally excellent at the trade table. The Suzuki deal is the crown jewel of his entire GMing tenure and - much as I loathe MB - he gets full credit from me for that. Agreed, getting Danault and a 2nd round pick from Chicago for Wiese and Fleischmann was probably his 2nd best trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 3 hours ago, Lanes World said: He was a scout in Chicago. judging by what has come out about Bergevin, I’m sure he had some part in scouting. Maybe not though the Danault deal from Chicago was based on his time at CHI. He had a good idea of Danault's potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanes World Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: GMs have to get judged by what they actually do, not by rumours about what they would have preferred to do. Apart from the Drouin catastrophe, Bergevin was generally excellent at the trade table. The Suzuki deal is the crown jewel of his entire GMing tenure and - much as I loathe MB - he gets full credit from me for that. I’d like to see him in another gm position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Agreed, getting Danault and a 2nd round pick from Chicago for Wiese and Fleischmann was probably his 2nd best trade. Petry for a 2nd and a 4th was good, too, as was Armia (and Mason) for Bourque. Or Domi for Galchenyuk. And he acquited Nate Thompson twice for a grand total of a single fourth-rounder. 😊 I'm very happy with Hughes, but Bergevin was also pretty good at trading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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