titanfan Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) I always get roasted for projected lineups, but what the hell. And I know landing Tavares is a long shot, but does the Galchenyuk trade actually give us the cap space to finally do that? Here are my thoughts (tear themn apart). The projected cap hit for next season is between $78-82 million, so let's round it to $80 million. As of right now, the Habs have $61.438 million committed for next season. That includes 22 players (see below), but doesn't account for RFA's - Danualt, Des LaRose, Carr and L. Shaw. My scenario keeps Danault, adds Tavares, Filip Zadina and Plekanec. And, although it doesn't trade anyone we currently have, it doesn't deal with DLR, Carr and L.Shaw. With my 'fantasy' scenario (or nightmare for some), we would spend $77.938 million, leaving us a little over $2 million for contingency plans. (I would love to get rid of A. Shaw, Alzner and Shlemko freeing up another $10.625 million but that is another story). Here is my projected lineup (it is far from perfect). Can we get Tavares for $12, or do we try Statsny, or someone else)? Can we sign Danault for $2.5 as an RFA? I am not sure? But here goes... Pacioretty ($4.51) Tavares ($12) Drouin ($5.5) Domi ($3.1) Danault ($2.5) Gallagher ($3.75) Byron ($1.16) Plekanec ($1) Zadina ($1) Deslauriers ($.950) Froese ($.650) A. Shaw ($3.9) Extra forwards - Hudon ($.650), Lehkonen ($.925), Scherbak ($1.063) Mete ($.870) Weber ($7.857) Alzner ($4.625) Petry ($5.5) Juulsen ($1.063) Reilly ($.725) Extra D - Benn ($1.1), Shlemko ($2.1) Price ($10.5) Niemi ($.950) RFA's not accounted for De LaRose, L. Shaw, Carr. I'd still like to find a place for DLR... Anyway, rip it apart. Certainly switch up lines and D pairings, but this is what we have right now, assuming we draft Zadina at third overall. The only additions are Tavares and Pleks (who seems to want to come back). I'd also love to add another D - but we need to find a way to get rid of Alzner or A. Shaw to even start thinking about that. Edited June 19, 2018 by titanfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Domi O'Reilly Gallagher Byron Drouin Lehkonen Hudon Danault A. Shaw Deslauriers De La Rose Scherbak McCarron Johnson Weber Price Mete Petry Niemi Alzner Juulsen Reilly McCarron and Scherbak will not clear waivers, so they'll both be on the team unless one or both are traded. I can see Pacioretty being dealt as part of an O'Reilly deal. Not sure what the other pieces would be. I can also see both Benn and Schlemko moved out in seperate deals. I doubt whoever we draft with the 3rd pick will be in the lineup, if we even still have the 3rd pick by the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'll play this fun game.. Drouin - O'Reilly - Lehks Domi - Bennett - Gallagher Lucic - Danault - A.Shaw Deslauriers - DLR - L.Shaw Klefbom - Weber Mete - Ristolainen Alzner - Petry Pacs gets moved to Buffalo as well as the #3 Juulsen and Byron move to Edmonton Pics, Scherbak and Reilly move to Calgary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Zadina will be close to 3 million with the bonus structure due to a 3rd overall pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) Pacioretty-<<ROR/JT>>-Scherbak Domi-Drouin-Gallagher Lehkonen-Danault-*Zadina Byron-DeLarose-A.Shaw Hudon, Deslaurier DeHaan-Weber Mete-Petry Alzner-Juulsen Valiev, Lernout Price/Niemi * at some point Zadina and Scherbak will swap Edited June 20, 2018 by alfredoh2009 Added comment on Domi/Zadina, updated lineup with Zadina on RW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 hours ago, titanfan said: I always get roasted for projected lineups, but what the hell. And I know landing Tavares is a long shot, but does the Galchenyuk trade actually give us the cap space to finally do that? Here are my thoughts (tear themn apart). The projected cap hit for next season is between $78-82 million, so let's round it to $80 million. As of right now, the Habs have $61.438 million committed for next season. That includes 22 players (see below), but doesn't account for RFA's - Danualt, Des LaRose, Carr and L. Shaw. My scenario keeps Danault, adds Tavares, Filip Zadina and Plekanec. And, although it doesn't trade anyone we currently have, it doesn't deal with DLR, Carr and L.Shaw. With my 'fantasy' scenario (or nightmare for some), we would spend $77.938 million, leaving us a little over $2 million for contingency plans. (I would love to get rid of A. Shaw, Alzner and Shlemko freeing up another $10.625 million but that is another story). Here is my projected lineup (it is far from perfect). Can we get Tavares for $12, or do we try Statsny, or someone else)? Can we sign Danault for $2.5 as an RFA? I am not sure? But here goes... Plekanec ($4.51) Tavares ($12) Drouin ($5.5) Domi ($3.1) Danault ($2.5) Gallagher ($3.75) Byron ($1.16) Plekanec ($1) Zadina ($1) Deslauriers ($.950) Froese ($.650) A. Shaw ($3.9) Extra forwards - Hudon ($.650), Lehkonen ($.925), Scherbak ($1.063) Mete ($.870) Weber ($7.857) Alzner ($4.625) Petry ($5.5) Juulsen ($1.063) Reilly ($.725) Extra D - Benn ($1.1), Shlemko ($2.1) Price ($10.5) Niemi ($.950) RFA's not accounted for De LaRose, L. Shaw, Carr. I'd still like to find a place for DLR... Anyway, rip it apart. Certainly switch up lines and D pairings, but this is what we have right now, assuming we draft Zadina at third overall. The only additions are Tavares and Pleks (who seems to want to come back). I'd also love to add another D - but we need to find a way to get rid of Alzner or A. Shaw to even start thinking about that. I am guessing Patches is the LD on the Tavares line I wouldn't sign Pleks to play 3C but at most 4C And I do not see the point of keeping Ben and Schlemnko ; ineb(or none) would improve the lineup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanfan Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) Good catch. Yes, it is Pacioretty on the first line (not Plekanecs). And I don't want Been or Schlemko either, we are just stuck with them until their contracts run out, unless we can trade them somewhere. Edited June 19, 2018 by titanfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Really everything hinges on our 3rd pick.... draft a winger and patches gets moved.... currently this is my lineup... lehkonan drouin domi. byron Danault gallagher pacioretty evans* sherback DeLauriers DelaRose Hudon A. Shaw Carr Maccarron L.shaw Moravcik* Weber Mete Petry Reilly Juulsen ALzner SChlemko Benn Sclenicka Price Neimi Lindgren Bold= my picks to make this team out of training camp or sooner rather then later italic = injured this is my current habs depth and i would look to moves reflecting our 3rd pick. -sign tavares -if we draft a winger move patches for another pick or prospect defender -if we draft a C or D then patches stays -trade Schlemko / shaw/ Alzner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Domi - Drouin - Gallagher Lehkonen - Danault - Shaw Hudon - Plekanec - Scherbak Deslauriers - DLR - McCarron Mete - Petry Alzner - Juulsen Benn - Schlemko Niemi Lindgren Looks like 31st to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Domi - ROR - Drouin Lehkonen - Bozak - Gallagher Byron - Danault - Shaw Hudon - Plekanec - Carr Deslaurier - DLR - Zadina Carlson - Weber Petry - Alzner Mete - Benn Juulsen - Schlemko Reilly Trade Pacs + Scherbak + pics for ROR Signings John Carlson Bozak Pleky for sentimental reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGC21 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Pacioretty - Drouin - Gallagher Domi - Danault - Scherbak Lehkonen - De La Rose - Hudon Byron - Plekanec - Shaw Mete - Weber Alzner - Petry Benn - Juulsen Price Niemi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 That's a good hughes 2019 line up. Sounds good to me. Time to lose for hughes. Fallin for dahlin almost worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 With the disappointment of Tavares not even entertaining an offer I can only hope he goes to SJ and that opens up a short term stop gap with jumbo joe. Pacioretty UFA Lehkonan Domi Danault Gallagher Drouin Evans Byron Hudon DeLaRose Scherbak Delauriers Shaw MacCarron Carr UFA Weber Mete Petry Reilly Juulsen Alzner Moravcik Schlemko Benn Sklenicka Price Niemi UFA C= Thornton* * 1 year at 10 million? UFA D= Markov* 1 year 6 million?haha Also... If. We aren’t picking up a legit top 4 Dman (only option might be DeHaan or to a lesser extent Green) I think we should just stay pat there... obviously trades are on the table. Bold =trade block underline= injured to start This is one of the youngest teams in hockey.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 9 hours ago, JGC21 said: Pacioretty - Drouin - Gallagher Domi - Danault - Scherbak Lehkonen - De La Rose - Hudon Byron - Plekanec - Shaw Mete - Weber Alzner - Petry Benn - Juulsen Price Niemi Nothing about that lineup screams exciting team to watch. I could handle not-exciting when the team was winning, but when you combine not winning and not exciting, count me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 7 hours ago, BCHabnut said: That's a good hughes 2019 line up. Sounds good to me. Time to lose for hughes. Fallin for dahlin almost worked. As much as "Lose for Hughes" seems like a goal the CH could reach next season; I think they will disappoint us with a wild card spot in the playoffs and a second round disheartening loss to Tampa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 34 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: As much as "Lose for Hughes" seems like a goal the CH could reach next season; I think they will disappoint us with a wild card spot in the playoffs and a second round disheartening loss to Tampa For all the pessimism around here, two things should be kept in mind: 1. We have no idea exactly what the roster will be come September. 2. Price is very unlikely to be a POS for a second straight year. So I agree with the gist of you post, although I think winning a playoff round will probably be a stretch. My expectation is a bubble team that makes the playoffs amidst all kinds of fan excitement about the 'comeback season,' before we get eliminated relatively easily. Bergevin will keep his job on the strength of a team that 'surpasses expectations' - expectations which are only so low because of his farcical levels of incompetence. That's how the Ballard Leafs roll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Go! Habs, Go! This à Habs fans board after all We are playoffs bound again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 58 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: That's how the Ballard Leafs roll. In some ways this is worse than Ballard. Ballard was cheap and a little evil. Molson is just in la la land with what he actually has. He's Homer chasing a burning pig on wheels in Springfield. Eventually he will come to the conclusion that it isn't still good, but it sadly might be after the team is so messed up it will take years to repair, even if some youngsters pan out. My greatest fear is Bergevin is still GM in 2020 when Lafreniere is going top 2. Probably the best French Canadian prospect since Lecavalier. If we are trying for 8th when him and Byfield are up there ready to change a franchise forever, that might be too much for me to handle. My passion at this point is in hating this organization for it's current state, but a situation like that and I might just not care at all anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zumpano21 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 To paraphrase LOTR: Bergevin: I will not risk a rebuild. Habs faithful: A rebuild is upon you whether you would risk it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 So after seeing what buffalo got for O'Reilly I saw lets move Pacioretty to center and see how he does. Maybe we can get even more for him. Have the team look like this Domi - Pacioretty - Gallagher Byron - Danault - Drouin Lehkonen - Plekenec - Shaw Deslauriers - Peca - Armia Rose, Hundon Mete - Weber Alzner - petry Ouellet - schlemko Reily, Benn Price Niemi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 46 minutes ago, Metallica said: So after seeing what buffalo got for O'Reilly I saw lets move Pacioretty to center and see how he does. Maybe we can get even more for him. Have the team look like this Domi - Pacioretty - Gallagher Byron - Danault - Drouin Lehkonen - Plekenec - Shaw Deslauriers - Peca - Armia Rose, Hundon Mete - Weber Alzner - petry Ouellet - schlemko Reily, Benn Price Niemi I see you're well into your Canada day pops 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Well you know this team is overdue for a rebuild when lineup ideas could conceivably start with the words, "Hold my beer." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, illWill said: I see you're well into your Canada day pops I am just trying not to put the sports news or Reg news on here in Toronto. They already think they should be handed the cup. Man its going to be a long summer and hockey season. I hope they find some way to f*^k this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I thought it would be interesting to project a lineup for two years from now when the Drafts start coming up through the system and some of the young veterans are more mature. To look forward to better days. Here is a 2020-2021 lineup: Drouin -Kotkaniemi -Gallagher Domi -Danault -Lehkonen Olofsson-Suzuki -Ylonen Hudon -Poehling -Bitten Ikonen/Vejdemo/Evans Mete -Weber Reilly -Juulsen Alzner -Brook Valiev/Lernout Price/Lindgren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Drouin - Danault - Scherbak Domi - Peca - Gallagher Hudon - Plekanec - Tatar Lehkonen - delaRose - Armia Deslauriers - McCarron Ouellet - Petry Despres - Benn Schlemko - Alzner Reilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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