Dalhabs Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 34 minutes ago, sakiqc said: Duclair - Drouin connection https://www.eliteprospects.com/team/3727/lac-st-louis-lions/2010-2011?tab=stats Maybe we can sign Duclair and make Kurt Etchegary make a comeback from retirement? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 38 minutes ago, sakiqc said: Duclair - Drouin connection https://www.eliteprospects.com/team/3727/lac-st-louis-lions/2010-2011?tab=stats I'm not advocating for signing a player based on what they did in midget seven years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link67 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Duclair would be fine as a 22 year old project, it fits in a context where you are rebuilding, both age and potential wise, its no Semin or Hemsky signing at least. He just seems to have more chance of being a bust than a pheonix rising from the ashes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Wow, snippy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Good. I am even more afraid of Bergevin making a stupid deal than I am at the prospect of us entering the season with a centre lineup of Drouin, plexs, Danault and dela Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link67 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 TVA Sport reporting Bergevin rumored to have a 2 year 2.75 AAV contract offer on the table for Duclair to ponder, an answer is possible tomorrow. Also reporting Calvin De Haan is asking for 5 years and 5mill AAV, and that Habs have interest but not on those terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, Link67 said: TVA Sport reporting Bergevin rumored to have a 2 year 2.75 AAV contract offer on the table for Duclair to ponder, an answer is possible tomorrow. Also reporting Calvin De Haan is asking for 5 years and 5mill AAV, and that Habs have interest but not on those terms. And Duclair has to think about that?? Is there a better offer in the KHL? And thankfully the Habs don't want that guy at 5 mill per over 5. I'd rather give Alzner a raise than commit that much dough to him, no matter how much cap space is available. Man these are dark times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 I'm not a fan of Duclair on those terms, and I don't know why we need another winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 At this point just let the kids play. See what we got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link67 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, illWill said: And Duclair has to think about that?? Is there a better offer in the KHL? And thankfully the Habs don't want that guy at 5 mill per over 5. I'd rather give Alzner a raise than commit that much dough to him, no matter how much cap space is available. Man these are dark times Personally I think the offer on Duclair, if true, is a little rich for a "Project" player, but ultimately he is 22 years old, has talent, and i'm not opposed to a 2 year trial on a kid from our backyard with connections to some of our core top 6 guys. De Haan is a good player, a puck mover who rarely makes mistakes throughout a game in his own zone, we would be much better off with his 5 mill than we are with Alzner's 4.6. But that ship has sailed, and now might not be the right time to invest in guys like De Haan, I find myself indifferent on the matter, If we don't grab him, cool, better odds of finishing in the bottom 10, there will be more UFA D around when the time is right. If we grab him, he will still be good in 2 or 3 years when this thing has hopefully turned around, but he will help us not finish as low as we would likely need to this season. He hurts the present goal but still helps the future one, so I'm indifferent to what road we take on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 I still want Spezza and the Stars first rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 At this point would you shop Weber? Tell teams we will eat the max that we can on his contract if we get a top prospect, a 1st round pick and a young NHL ready player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 19 minutes ago, Metallica said: At this point would you shop Weber? Tell teams we will eat the max that we can on his contract if we get a top prospect, a 1st round pick and a young NHL ready player? I am convinced the Oilers would give us so much for him. Chia would have his Chara. He'd give up a ton for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 31 minutes ago, Commandant said: I still want Spezza and the Stars first rounder. Try and get Heiskanen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, nihilz said: Try and get Heiskanen! Yeah they arent giving up last year's third overall pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: I am convinced the Oilers would give us so much for him. Chia would have his Chara. He'd give up a ton for that. Edmonton has about 7mil in cap space but they have to sign Nurse , Strome and Slepyhev. So Nurse would be the big contract out of the 3. Lets say Nurse gets 4.5mil a year Storm gets 1.5mil that's 6mil which would leave them 1mil in cap space. So in order to make this work lets say habs eat 3mil of Weber's contract , that would put him at 4.8mil a year which isn't bad. So we would have to take on more money so To Edmonton Weber To habs 1st round pick, top prospect and Klefbom That would even everything out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Metallica said: Edmonton has about 7mil in cap space but they have to sign Nurse , Strome and Slepyhev. So Nurse would be the big contract out of the 3. Lets say Nurse gets 4.5mil a year Storm gets 1.5mil that's 6mil which would leave them 1mil in cap space. So in order to make this work lets say habs eat 3mil of Weber's contract , that would put him at 4.8mil a year which isn't bad. So we would have to take on more money so To Edmonton Weber To habs 1st round pick, top prospect and Klefbom That would even everything out I want Weber traded along with Price, but there is no way we can eat any amount of that contract given the cap hit remaining. I’d try Gallagher + Weber + Schlemko for Draisaitl+Klefbom+Lucic (if he waives)+Puljujarvi Than take Lucic and eat have his contract. We need a proper rebuild. It will take 3 to 4 years at least to be a true contender and by than best case is Price and Weber will be in decline and worst case is that they become anchors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 My plan would be a three team trade. Contact Edmonton, tell them Weber is available. Tell them that we would take Lucic and flip him to the team he wants to play for. In doing this, we want two first round picks and a prospect. If they don't want help losing Lucic then Weber only costs a first, second, and prospect. Once we got Lucic we can negotiate with anyone for him. Hurricanes make sense. We would retain cap if the Hurricanes give us a strong draft pick back, otherwise we will move him as a cap dump. Yes, I believe Chia would give us two first rounders for Weber. He would be looked at as the missing piece for Edmonton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 12 hours ago, Link67 said: TVA Sport reporting Bergevin rumored to have a 2 year 2.75 AAV contract offer on the table for Duclair to ponder, an answer is possible tomorrow. 1 $2.75 million per? Chicago didn't bother qualifying him at $1.2 million. That would be an extraordinarily stupid contract to give out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Nurse is not getting 4.5 and strome is not.getting 1.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Signing Duclair for any reason would be a bad idea. Especially giving him a raise from what Chicago walked away from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, dlbalr said: $2.75 million per? Chicago didn't bother qualifying him at $1.2 million. That would be an extraordinarily stupid contract to give out. $2.75M for two years makes more sense. $1.375M for two years. Maybe he has a few offers and we have to outbid, even if Chicago didn't qualify him at $1.2M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: $2.75M for two years makes more sense. $1.375M for two years. Maybe he has a few offers and we have to outbid, even if Chicago didn't qualify him at $1.2M. Still a bad idea but that would be defensible at least, particularly because of the second year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Still a bad idea but that would be defensible at least, particularly because of the second year. I'm not against giving him a shot but two years just because he's 22 and had a good rookie year with Domi is dangerous. Can he receive a two way deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: I'm not against giving him a shot but two years just because he's 22 and had a good rookie year with Domi is dangerous. Can he receive a two way deal? Anyone can sign a two-way deal. He'd still need waivers if they wanted to put him in the minors, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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